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  • Rod Drury: From Xero to $2.1 Billion
    In our 100th episode of Startup Theatre, we went live in Queenstown for a milestone fireside chat with Rod Drury, founder of Xero.Rod unpacks the behind-the-scenes reality of building a global SaaS company from Wellington: why they IPO’d early, what raising capital actually takes, and how to build teams that can scale without losing pace. We also get into founder PR, working on the business vs in it, what “A-players” really are, and why culture (and proximity) still matters.Then Rod goes beyond Xero and talks about New Zealand’s next chapter: digital identity, open banking, “sovereign” infrastructure, and the practical risks of global platforms extracting value from tourism and payments. If you care about startups, high performance, or the future of NZ tech, this one is essential listening.Topics include:Early-stage IPOs, capital strategy, and “raise when you don’t need it”Building founder-led urgency and accelerating decision-makingHiring A-players and the real cost of compromiseFounder comms, media strategy, and long-term relationship buildingNZ innovation: digital identity, tourism platforms, and procurementAI’s impact on jobs and the “no new hires” mindsetStartup Theatre is produced by Empire Films, and this episode was proudly supported by PwC.
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  • Bikes, Rats and Natural Perfume: The Wild Career of a kiwi globally
    Goodnature CEO Dave Shoemack has had one of the more unusual startup careers you will hear about. From big beer at Heineken HQ, to helping turn VanMoof into the “Tesla of e-bikes” in Amsterdam, to leading Wellington trap-maker Goodnature and living with a founder at home through natural perfume brand Abel.In this episode of Startup Theatre, Troy and Serge sit down with Dave to talk about building global hardware companies from tiny teams, dealing with bankruptcy and rebirth, and why focus and courage matter more than almost anything else.You will hear:The inside story of VanMoof’s rise, the brave anti-car ad that was banned in France, and what it felt like to watch the company go bankrupt after he leftHow Dave walked away from a cushy global role at Heineken, battled crippling imposter syndrome, and learned to love “lobster moments” where growth only comes from discomfortWhy VanMoof eventually doubled down on one bike, one audience, and one moment, and how that extreme focus translated directly into brand powerThe move back to Wellington, joining Goodnature’s board then stepping up as CEO, and what it is really like to manufacture smart, humane traps 100 metres from the Basin Reserve and ship them to the worldDinner-table startup life with his wife Frances, founder of natural perfume house Abel, and the difference between pioneers who start things and settlers who grow themHow Goodnature keeps “founder chaos” alive in a 20-year-old company, and why Kiwi companies should stop selling out too earlyIn a new “Behind the Curtain” explainer segment, Serge also breaks down ESOPs and share options:What ESOP and options actually are, and why most employees do not receive real shares up frontHow vesting, cliffs, good leaver and bad leaver provisions work in New ZealandWhat happens to your options if the company sells early, or you leaveWhen tax hits, how net settlement usually works, and whether ESOP is really “worth it”Practical advice on negotiating salary first, then treating options as upside rather than your base payFinally, Troy and Serge answer audience questions, talk through the new Behind the Curtain segment, and explain how you can be in the draw for a $1,000 Prezi card as they work towards the 100th episode.Sponsor:This episode is brought to you by Vanta. If you are starting or scaling your security programme, Vanta automates compliance for ISO 27001, SOC 2, and more.Get USD $1,000 off at: vanta.com/startuptheaterLinks from this episode:Goodnature: https://goodnature.co.nzVanMoof: https://www.vanmoof.comAbel fragrance: https://abelodor.com
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  • The Kiwi Who Cracked Silicon Valley: Now a partner at Andreessen Horowitz a16z
    From AngelList to OnDeck to Blackbird, David has spent a decade designing the connective tissue between people, products, and ideas. NZ's own David Booth now joins a16z as Partner and Head of Ecosystem. His mission: make a16z the F1 pit crew of venture, where network power compounds and every founder gets faster.David helped build one of the world’s most impactful founder communities through On Deck, helping over 1,000 startups raise more than $2B. But his path wasn’t conventional. He built momentum quietly — through community, consistency, and backing other founders long before becoming a VC himself.In this conversation, David shares how he went from building a dinner-table movement to being invited to join one of the most powerful VC firms in the world. It’s a story about showing up, lifting others, and trusting that if you do the hard things well, people will notice.How On Deck grew from idea to $20M+ revenue and a $70M raiseLessons from his time as Entrepreneur in Residence at BlackbirdHow building a Kiwi founder network in SF led to a16zWhat great VCs actually look for in early-stage foundersWhy advising others made him a better founder — and now a better investor🔑 Topics Covered:The crossroad moment where he almost walked away from the company he builtWhy fundraising is just as much about self-awareness as it is about metricsHow scaling culture is the real moat, and why most startups miss itThe psychological shift from operator to investor — and what founders still get wrongWhy joining a16z isn’t the finish line—it’s the beginning of a new missionThis podcast was brought to you by our amazing sponsor in ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Vanta⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🙌🏻Get USD $1000 off ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Vanta⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ using the link ⁠⁠⁠https://www.vanta.com/startup⁠⁠Startups under the Spotlight brought to you by Talent ArmyBuild your team with NZ's best tech startup recruiters at ⁠⁠⁠https://www.talent.army
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  • My software will power every health transaction worldwide within two years
    In this episode of Startup Theatre, host Troy Hammond sits down with serial founder and engineer Nimo Naamani—a man who’s lived through the chaos of founding blockchain companies, building developer tools, getting acqui-hired by Twitter, and now taking on one of the hardest industries of all: healthcare.Nimo shares wild stories—from building Horizon State, to selling his startup to Twitter, to launching Propagator, a platform aiming to connect every health transaction in New Zealand. Along the way, we unpack the mindset of a “zero to one” founder, what makes a 10x engineer (or a 100x one), and why he thinks clarity is more important than speed.Plus, you’ll hear about:Building tech under Jack Dorsey and Elon MuskWhy he believes every system leaks and how Propagator builds around thatThe surprising cult-like spirit inside TwitterThe infamous swamp origin story (yes, it involves a cowboy costume and actual sh*t)If you’re a startup builder, healthtech nerd, or just love hearing from people who do the hard stuff, this is one for the queue.🎧 Tune in now – and take notes. Nimo knows how to build a product and scale. 🔑 Topics CoveredThe swampy origin story that shaped Nimo’s love of chaos and hard problemsWhat happens inside a Twitter acqui-hire — and why they paid top dollar for his teamHow Propagator is fixing healthcare by doing the hardest thing first and not storing your dataWhy most startups fail at integration — and what it actually takes to connect legacy systemsThe messy truth about co-founders, clarity, and leading when you're not a natural CEO🔥 SoundbitesSpeed without clarity is just noise.I don’t want to store your data. I want to move it — fast and safely.I’ve been surrounded by bullsh!t since I was four. I’m used to chaos.I never wanted to be CEO. I just want to fix things.You don’t need a cult to build a great company. You need adults.A startup is not a family. I’ve got kids — I don’t need more at work.I’ll take the swamp every time. That’s where the real work is.Most people start with the easy. We started with the hard.The best founders aren’t the loudest. They’re the most convicted.Every system leaks. So prepare, don’t panic.This podcast was brought to you by our amazing sponsor in ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Vanta⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🙌🏻Get USD $1000 off ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Vanta⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ using the link ⁠⁠https://www.vanta.com/startup⁠
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  • The All-In Founder: How One Bet Sparked a New Superhuman AI
    What happens when a broke Kiwi founder and his team fly to San Francisco with only $15,000 left, sleep in a basement, and end up playing poker with the investor who changes everything?In this episode of Startup Theatre, Troy Hammond sits down with Alistair McLeay, co-founder and co-CEO of Grw AI, one of New Zealand’s most ambitious artificial intelligence startups. Alistair shares how a chance poker game in San Francisco helped him land funding and kickstart the creation of what he calls a “superhuman AI sales leader.” Grw AI is a tool that coaches, trains, and lifts entire sales teams like the world’s best manager on steroids.🔑 Topics Covered:​The high-stakes gamble that almost ended his company before it began​What it takes to raise capital when you have nothing left but conviction​Why AI could make us more human, not less​The personal cost of chasing something world-changing​How the next five years of AI will transform how we think and workFrom investing in San Frasnciso, to neural networks, this is a story about risk, belief, and the blurred line between human intuition, machine intelligence, and moral responsibility.If you care about startups, AI ethics, and the people shaping the future of artificial intelligence when everything is on the line, this one is for you.🔥 Soundbites:​We had $15,000 left and nowhere to sleep, so we went all in.​We’re not building AI to replace people. We’re building it to make them superhuman.​The real danger isn’t that AI will take your job. It’s that it might take your purpose.​We taught machines to think, but can we teach them to care?​This isn’t just a startup story. It’s a glimpse into the next chapter of humanity.​You don’t need comfort to build the future. You need obsession.🎧 Tune in now – and take notes. Alistair doesn’t hold back.This podcast was brought to you by our amazing sponsor in ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Vanta⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 🙌🏻Get USD $1000 off ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Vanta⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ using the link ⁠https://www.vanta.com/startup
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Exploring the wins, challenges, & lessons from startups. Honest conversations, real insights, and everything in between. Troy Hammond & Serge van Dam, with deep roots in the startup ecosystem in New Zealand and beyond, explore the world of startups, tech, markets, and media. They break down industry trends, uncover the realities of scaling companies, and share expert insights through candid conversations. Each episode features top founders, operators, investors, and innovators, offering lessons, perspectives, and stories from the frontlines of business and technology.
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