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Change Signal: Modern Change Management that Works

Michael Bungay Stanier | Modern Change Management Practitioner
Change Signal: Modern Change Management that Works
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  • Change Signal: Modern Change Management that Works

    Clarity>Certainty. Context>Context | Peter Schein | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

    01/07/2026 | 28 mins.
    This Change Signal conversation with Peter Schein asks three questions:

    • What doesn’t your change plan know?

    • Where is context quietly defeating content?

    • Are we building systems so perfect that people no longer need to be good?

    Peter, co-author with Ed Schein of Humble Inquiry, Humble Consulting, and Humble Leadership, brings a wonderfully useful challenge to change management and transformation work. He says humble leadership isn’t about being modest; it’s about being vulnerable to what you don’t know, and curious enough to discover what the room already knows.

    We talk about why change leaders get seduced by content — the strategy, the model, the deck, the eight steps — while missing the context that determines whether any of it will actually land.

    We also explore relationship mapping, “soak time” in meetings, and why trust is not some nice-to-have garnish sprinkled on top of organizational change.

    For senior leaders leading change in large, complex organizations, this is about clarity over certainty, context over content, and the practical, human work of being good to each other.

    Change Signal. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works in change. If you’re a transformational leader seeking modern change mastery, you’re in exactly the right place.

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  • Change Signal: Modern Change Management that Works

    Two Types of Change Harm | Kate O'Neill | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

    24/06/2026 | 28 mins.
    Three questions sit at the heart of this conversation:

    • Are you starting with the technology, or the purpose?• What harm are you creating by moving too fast — or too slowly?• Have you designed the change people actually experience?

    Kate O’Neill is a tech humanist, strategist, and author of What Matters Next. In this Change Signal episode, we talk about AI, digital transformation, and the choices change leaders face when the world keeps speeding up.

    Kate challenges one of the loudest instincts in organizations right now: “We need an AI strategy.” Maybe. But not first.

    First comes purpose: what the business is here to do, how it creates value, what kind of experience it wants to design, and what data helps leaders make better decisions.

    We also explore Kate’s useful distinction between the harms of action and the harms of inaction — the trouble we create by moving too fast, and the debt we create by waiting too long. If you lead change or transformation in a large organization, this is a practical conversation about pace, purpose, and making change more human.

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    🎧 A new episode every week (and sometimes two!)

    The Change Signal newsletter. Short, practical, weekly

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  • Change Signal: Modern Change Management that Works

    How to Make Change Real | Roger Martin | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

    17/06/2026 | 28 mins.
    Three questions sit at the heart of this conversation: 


    Are you asking people to make real choices, or just comply?


    What past are you accidentally disrespecting?


    Is your change work actually part of the work?

    Roger Martin is one of the clearest thinkers I know on strategy, leadership, and transformation. In this Change Signal episode, we get into why so many change efforts stall, not because people are lazy or resistant, but because they’ve been given a vague or demeaning job: “go execute this.”

    Roger offers a better way: choice chartering. Give people the shape of the answer you need, not the answer itself. Help them understand the strategic choice, then ask them to make the next set of choices for their part of the organization.

    We also explore agency, psychological safety, vision, and why respecting the old system may be the key to changing it. If you lead change in a large organization, this is a practical, thoughtful conversation about how transformation really happens.

    Change Signal. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works in change. If you’re a transformational leader seeking modern change mastery, you’re in exactly the right place.

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    WHEN YOU’RE READY

    🎧 A new episode every week (and sometimes two!)

    The Change Signal newsletter. Short, practical, weekly

    ***

    CONNECT

    💼Connect on LinkedIn

    ***

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    💜Leave a review on Apple Podcasts

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  • Change Signal: Modern Change Management that Works

    Designing Behavior Change That Sticks | BJ Fogg | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

    10/06/2026 | 28 mins.
    This Change Signal conversation with BJ Fogg raises three interesting questions:


    Are you designing change, or just hoping for it? 


    Where’s the overlap that actually works? 


    What is your environment quietly shaping?

    Behaviour ch

    Change sits at the heart of every transformation effort, yet most leaders still rely on willpower, communication, and good intentions. BJ Fogg offers a more practical approach — one grounded in designing for behaviour rather than trying to persuade it.

    We explore his core model: behaviour happens when motivation, ability, and prompts come together. Miss one, and change struggles. Get the combination right, and change becomes far more predictable.

    BJ also reframes scale through a simple but demanding lens — finding the overlap between what the organization needs and what people are willing and able to do. Much of what looks like resistance is actually misalignment.

    And then there’s the environment. Not as context, but as a primary lever. Change what surrounds people — the cues, the ease, the friction — and behaviour often follows.

    Change Signal. Where transformational change leaders seek and find modern change wisdom. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works.

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    WHEN YOU’RE READY

    🎧 A new episode every week (and sometimes two!)

    The Change Signal newsletter. Short, practical, weekly

    ***

    CONNECT

    💼Connect on LinkedIn

    ***

    SAY THANKS

    💜Leave a review on Apple Podcasts

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  • Change Signal: Modern Change Management that Works

    Power Mapping for Change Practitioners & Leaders | Tiziana Casciaro | Modern Change Management & Leading Change

    03/06/2026 | 37 mins.
    Here are three questions that arise from this Change Signal conversation with Tiziana Casciaro: 


    Where does power really sit in your system?


    Why don’t people use your “open door”? 


    When is resistance a skill gap — and when is it a coalition fight?

    Most change efforts in big organizations fail for a quiet reason: we pretend change is a plan, when it’s actually a power-and-relationships story. Tiziana helps make “power” discussable again — less as a dirty word, more as the energy that moves decisions, resources, and attention.

    We talk about power mapping as a practical discipline: noticing who’s influential, what the organization values, and how the informal network really works (because the org chart is only part of the truth). And we dig into the relational labour of leading change — how much listening, curiosity, and conversation it actually takes to create momentum.

    Finally, we get honest about resistance. Sometimes people need resources and a path to success; sometimes you have to build a coalition to move a transformation forward.

    Change Signal. Where transformational change leaders seek and find modern change wisdom. Cut through the blather, the BS, and the noise to find the good stuff that works.

    ***

    WHEN YOU’RE READY

    🎧 A new episode every week (and sometimes two!)

    The Change Signal newsletter. Short, practical, weekly

    ***

    CONNECT

    💼Connect on LinkedIn

    ***

    SAY THANKS

    💜Leave a review on Apple Podcasts

    💚Leave a review on Spotify
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About Change Signal: Modern Change Management that Works
Change management is harder than ever. Organizations face more complexity, more uncertainty, and more pressure to deliver successful change than at any point in recent memory. Most leaders respond by pushing harder. Others search for the latest model, framework, or methodology and hope the tool will solve the problem. Neither guarantees change adoption. Successful change happens when people are ready, stakeholders are engaged, leaders show up effectively, and change approaches fit the reality of the work. That's what Change Signal explores. Michael Bungay Stanier, author of The Coaching Habit and a student of organizational change for more than thirty years, talks with leading thinkers, experienced practitioners, and senior leaders to uncover what works, what doesn't, and what modern change management looks like in practice. Each episode explores the challenges behind leading successful change, building change readiness, strengthening stakeholder engagement, improving change adoption, applying change frameworks, refining change methodology, and measuring change effectiveness. Whether you're leading a change project, supporting organizational change, or helping teams navigate uncertainty, you'll find practical ideas, tested approaches, and evidence-based insights you can put to work immediately. The goal is simple: help change practitioners and change leaders make change more successful, more sustainable, and less overwhelming. New episodes regularly. Join the conversation at TheChangeSignal.com. Popular Episode Topics Include: Change Management, Modern Change Management, Leading Change, Change Adoption, Adoption Strategy, Change Readiness, Organizational Readiness, Stakeholder Engagement, Stakeholder Buy-In, Executive Sponsorship, Change Methodology, Change Frameworks, Change Management Frameworks, Change Leadership, Change Measurement, Measuring Change Success, Change Effectiveness, Change Projects, Change Planning, Change Outcomes
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