People Inspired By Purpose - Purposely Podcast

Welcoming Gary Stannett MBE to Purposely Podcast, Chief Executive of the Rio Ferdinand Foundation, the UK charity that uses sport and the creative arts to open up opportunities for young people in communities that have historically been overlooked and underinvested.
Gary came into this work through youth work and community sports development, not through a career plan. He built programmes from the ground up in South London, earned his qualifications alongside the work, and has spent nearly 30 years getting better at something he never expected to turn into a career. That experience shapes how he leads and how the foundation operates.
The Rio Ferdinand Foundation was set up around 15 years ago, inspired in part by Rio's mother Janice, who was deeply embedded in community life in Peckham and served as the foundation's chair until her death in 2017. It started with a focus on education and training for young people in London and Manchester, and has since grown to deliver work in Belfast, Derry, Sligo and across the UK and Ireland through partnerships with other organisations.
In this conversation, Gary and Mark get into what it actually means to run a charity with a famous name attached to it. The brand opens doors but it does not conjure funding. Every partnership still has to be earned, every impact still has to be evidenced, and there is a constant discipline required to make sure people are engaging with the foundation for the right reasons and not just for access to Rio. Gary is clear-eyed about all of it.
He talks about the foundation's model, using football and youth culture as a way in, then moving young people through personal development, accredited training and real pathways into careers. The goal is not a quick programme but a longer journey, connecting young people with industries and employers they might never otherwise encounter, and building the networks and confidence that social mobility actually requires.
Gary also reflects on what he has learned about leadership over time, becoming less harsh on himself, stepping back more, and bringing people on the journey rather than pushing them towards a vision they do not yet share. And he talks about young people today, the very real weight of poverty, housing costs, debt and a changing jobs market, alongside the energy, talent and resilience he sees every day that keeps him showing up.
Find out more about the Rio Ferdinand Foundation at rioferdinandfoundation.org
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Welcoming Steven Moe to Purposely Podcast — partner at Parry Field Lawyers, founder of the Seeds Podcast, author, event organiser, governance leader, and one of the more consistently active people in New Zealand's for-purpose sector.
Steven's career has had two distinct chapters. The first was corporate law - big firms, big transactions, time in Japan, London and Sydney. The second, starting about ten years ago when he returned to Aotearoa, has been something quite different: using the law as a tool to support charities, social enterprises and purpose-driven organisations, while building a body of work around education, connection and community that goes well beyond legal advice.
In this conversation, they get into what drove that shift, how Steven thinks about his role as a catalyst for impact, and what it actually looks like to run at the pace he does — four kids, a law partnership, two podcasts, a team of 15, a governance role as Chair of Community Finance, and a conference coming up next month.
Steven talks about the career pivot that brought him back to Aotearoa and why that moment became one of reinvention rather than just a change of location. He traces the influences that shaped him — a Peace Corps family, time living in Chile as a child, early exposure to poverty — and how those experiences connect to the work he does now.
He makes the case for the law as a tool rather than an end in itself, and explains the thinking behind Parry Field's approach of giving away enormous amounts of free content, resources and events. The serve-and-win model isn't accidental — it's deliberate, and it works.
There's a practical thread running through the conversation too. Steven talks about the Pareto Principle and why he'd rather ship something at 80% than spend three times as long perfecting it. He talks about collaboration — why his default is to approach people, say yes, and bring others in rather than trying to do everything alone.
On the bigger picture, Steven shares his thinking on Community Finance, which has now raised more than $600 million to house people who would otherwise be on the emergency housing list. He also makes a case for separating housing, health and education from election cycles, and discusses the idea of impact companies — a possible new legal structure that borrows the best from both charities and businesses.
They also get into podcasting, parenting four children with intention, and what it means to stay present when there's always more to do. And Steven shares details on the Seeds Impact Conference on 22 May a free online event with around 20 speakers from across the sector. Register here: https://events.humanitix.com/impact-conference-2026
Find Steven and the Seeds Podcast at theseeds.nz and Parry Field Lawyers at parryfield.com — including a large library of free legal resources for the for-purpose sector.
This episode of Purposely is brought to you by Benevity and Trust Investments NZ.
Key Themes

Welcoming Duncan Matthews, founder of Good Numbers, to Purposely Podcast - a purpose-driven fintech built to solve a problem Duncan couldn't stop thinking about after 15 years working in and around small charities in Aotearoa: why is it so hard for volunteer treasurers to do the basics?
Good Numbers is a bookkeeping and reporting tool designed specifically for tier four charities - organisations turning over under $140,000 a year. There are thousands of them in New Zealand, and virtually no software built with them in mind. Duncan is changing that.
In this episode, Duncan talks about the pain points he witnessed firsthand at Rainbow Youth and Foundation North, why tools like Xero leave small nonprofits behind, and what it really feels like to back your own idea for the first time — after years of backing everyone else's.

Key Themes
• Why tier four charities are underserved - and what's at stake when reporting feels impossible
• The xRB reporting standards that changed everything, and why most small organisations still struggle with them
• What Xero gets wrong for nonprofits — and the gap Good Numbers is built to fill
• Open banking, co-founders, and the realities of self-funding a purpose-driven startup
• The trust deficit between funders and grantees - and why it runs both ways
• From Rainbow Youth to Foundation North: a career spent in the engine room of the sector
• What it takes to finally back yourself

In this SHORT episode of Purposely, we’re back with fundraising strategist Craig Pollard – on mission creep, funding models, and why confidence might be the most underrated tool in the sector.
Craig opens with a candid look at mission creep – that drift that happens when organisations become a flag in the wind, chasing sustainability instead of staying anchored to purpose. It’s a pattern he sees often, and one that’s easy to rationalise in the moment but costly in the long run.
He makes a compelling case for discomfort. Nothing great happens when everyone is comfortable. The best nonprofit leadership has tension in it – between boards and chief executives, between ambition and accountability. It’s something Craig deliberately brings to his work, and he’s unapologetic about it.
On funding models, Craig is refreshingly direct. Diversification sounds simple but it’s not – it can happen within a single donor, across donor types, by geography, or by income stream. The real question is: what does your future funding model need to achieve, and do you have the strategy and internal capability to get there?
And underneath all of it: confidence. Craig sees a lot of organisations judging themselves far too harshly. When that shifts – when a team understands its own value – things move fast. He shares the story of a girls’ empowerment project in Nepal that went from stuck to building corporate partnerships and international relationships within 16 weeks. Mindset first, strategy second.
Key themes
• Mission creep and the danger of chasing funding over purpose
• Discomfort and tension as healthy forces in nonprofit leadership
• The real complexity behind funding diversification
• Understanding why your funders fund you
• Confidence as the foundation for building better funding relationships
• Moving from dependency to a strategic future funding model

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In this episode of Purposely, Mark Longbottom sits down with Simon Bowden, Head of Philanthropic Services at Forsyth Barr.
Simon has spent more than 30 years across the for-purpose sector, including nearly two decades leading the Arts Foundation of New Zealand. Today, he works with charities and clients to help them think more clearly about giving, funding, and long-term impact.
A big part of the conversation is about how philanthropy is changing. More clients are asking better questions about where their money goes, what it actually does, and how to structure giving over time. That’s driving firms like Forsyth Barr to take this more seriously and build it into their advice.
Simon talks through what his role actually involves. On one side, working with charities on things like income diversification, governance, and funding strategy. On the other, helping individuals and families navigate giving, from first donations through to legacy planning.
There’s also a broader discussion about the New Zealand context. We’re a generous country in some ways, but formal giving and legacy donations are still relatively low. Simon makes the point that how we talk about giving matters. If it feels transactional or repetitive, people switch off. If it feels relevant and connected to what they care about, they lean in.
The episode also covers Simon’s path into this work. From music and running a national jazz festival, through to leading the Arts Foundation and launching Boosted, his career has consistently sat between creativity, funding, and building things from scratch.
They also get into the relationship between commercial advice and purpose. Simon’s view is straightforward. Done properly, it works for everyone. Clients get better outcomes, and more money flows to where it can make a difference.
The conversation wraps with a full-circle moment at a Philanthropy New Zealand conference, involving a banjo, a kazoo, and a reminder that bringing people together still matters.
This episode is brought to you by Benevity and Trust Investments.