2 Commas: The $multi-million exit show with Josh Comrie

A New Zealander was once escorted off the premises at NASA. No degree, no visa, no clearance. He went home and started a rocket company.
That’s Peter Beck, and Rocket Lab is now worth more than 13 billion US dollars. This is part two of the 2 Commas 100th episode, where I try to work out how a country of five million at the bottom of the world produces unicorn founders at twice the rate of the United States. I start with the numbers most Kiwis have never seen, then trace the misfits behind them, from an SAS officer who can’t tell a bit from a byte to a dyslexic kid from Rotorua who helped name AGI.
We get into:
Why New Zealand punches so far above its weight in technology
The Kiwis building billion dollar companies offshore, and the thread back home
The founders who stayed and built world firsts anyway
The flywheel that turns one exit into the next founder’s first cheque
The four things that actually make us good at this
We call founders geniuses in hindsight. Mostly they just stood in the right place, then backed the next person who did.
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On the 10th of April 1968, a radio engineer climbed off a sinking ferry in Wellington Harbour, picked up his case of samples, and turned up to his sales meeting the next morning anyway.
That’s Angus Tait, and he’s one thread in the 100th episode of 2 Commas, the secret and occasionally ridiculous story of how a tiny country at the bottom of the world learned to build billion dollar technology companies. I start at a table in 2013 where an extra $2,500 became $775,000, then go back 45 years to trace the whole table that made it possible. Crystal factories under houses, a dial-up hack that bought a Ferrari, and a couch project that sold for the equivalent of a billion dollars.
We get into:
Why a tiny domestic market became a training camp, not a handicap
The first big software exits, and what they cost the founders
How TradeMe changed the way the country saw technology wealth
The $1 that bought the name Navman
Why Xero backed itself on the public market instead of Silicon Valley
This is part one of two. Next week, the New Zealanders who built their biggest companies without ever building them here.
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Most finance companies live or die on keeping you. Sasha Lockley built one that wants you gone as fast as possible.
She’s a trained classical singer turned forensic accountant who left corporate finance to start Money Sweet Spot, a lender built to get Kiwis out of debt rather than keep them in it. No fees, no default interest, and rewards for improving your financial literacy. In this one she’s honest about the identity shift of becoming a founder, why businesses fail to scale past the person who started them, and New Zealand’s consumer debt problem that nobody wants to say out loud.
We get into:
Why her lender measures success by the customers it loses
The borrower story that beats the credit risk curve
Why founder identity quietly caps how big a business can get
New Zealand’s debt reality, including the 49% rate still on offer
Where she’s taking the business, and why it isn’t a bigger loan book
Build something good enough and one day it has to outgrow you. Here’s what that actually takes.
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A few years ago I bought a new website from a stranger. My own IT company could have built it. They just never told me they did.
That small story is the whole problem in miniature. Your customers can only buy the thing they know exists, and the adjacent work you'd love to win keeps slipping off to someone else. In this solo episode I make an argument most founders won't enjoy: the relationship you're proudest of is exactly why you've got no plan for it. I get into the research, the A/B/C system I use to sort accounts, and the three questions that turn a warm relationship into real revenue growth.
We get into:
The two forces that stop founders selling more to their best customersWhat 38 years of sales research says about being the likeable oneThe A/B/C system for sorting accounts before you planThe three questions every account plan actually needsWhy your customer base is the real moat before an exit
Most founders are sitting on half their next year of growth and don't know it. Here's how to find it.
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$20 and a fax machine. That's what Steve Dunstan started Huffer with.
Twenty-six years later, he'd built one of New Zealand's most recognised streetwear brands, scaled it to around 200 people, survived the GFC, wrestled with a US expansion that didn't go to plan, and lost a co-founder along the way. In this one, Steve is straight about the part founders rarely admit: what happens to your identity when you and the brand become the same thing, what it takes to sell a business you built from the ground up, and how you rebuild yourself once it's gone.
We get into:
The $20 start and why the constraint helped
$35k to over $1m in four years, no outside money
Surviving the GFC as a fashion brand
Why belonging became the thing that drove performance
The exit after 26 years, and what came next
Would you know how to stop being the business, the day you finally sell it?
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