On Purpose with Jay Shetty

We’re not failing at life. We were just never taught how to speak up, handle rejection, and confidently ask for what we want.
Today, Jay sits down with sales leader and entrepreneur Shelby Sapp to unpack why sales isn’t about convincing others, but about understanding people, building trust, and believing in yourself. Shelby shares how the skills that helped her go from door-to-door sales to building a thriving business are the same skills we use every day: advocating for ourselves, navigating rejection, and communicating our value. She reframes sales as a mindset shift, from seeing “no” as failure to seeing it as feedback, explaining why learning how to sell is really about learning how to think, speak, and lead with confidence.
Jay and Shelby break down the core principles that make sales applicable to every area of life: identifying leverage, creating real value, keeping things simple, and having the courage to ask for what you want. Shelby explains why people don’t buy products, they buy solutions, outcomes, and relief and how rejection becomes easier when you stop taking it personally.
They also dive into the deeper mindset shifts that separate those who stay stuck from those who grow. Shelby challenges the idea that confidence comes before action, revealing instead that confidence is built by doing uncomfortable things repeatedly and overcoming rejection. Jay reflects on how sales skills teach resilience, the ability to keep showing up with belief even after setbacks, and why handling rejection well can unlock opportunities in every part of life.
In this interview, you'll learn:
How to Sell Without Feeling Manipulative
How to Communicate Your Value Clearly
How to Handle “No” Without Taking It Personally
How to Ask for What You Want (and Get It)
How to Identify What Truly Motivates People
How to Stop Overexplaining and Keep It Simple
How to Create Momentum When You Feel Stuck
Progress isn’t about perfection, it’s about momentum. Trust yourself enough to ask, to act, and to keep going. The skills you build today will shape the confidence, freedom, and purpose you step into tomorrow.
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Jay Shetty
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What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
01:23 You’re Already Using Sales in Your Every Day Life
02:53 The Power of the Reframe
04:42 The Core Sales Skills Everyone Needs
08:03 Sales Isn’t Manipulation, It’s Emotional Leadership
12:59 One Connection Can Change Everything
17:41 Building a High-Income Skill is Essential
19:51 Why Mindset Is the Real Advantage
21:35 A Simple Sales Process That Actually Works
27:31 The Most Memorable Thing You’ve Ever Been Sold
30:55 How to Spend Money More Mindfully
34:44 How to Get Started in Sales (Even If You’re Scared)
35:42 Are Networking Events Worth Your Time?
39:39 There’s No Limit to What You Can Earn
43:15 How to Create a Major Salary Jump
46:19 Jobs That Sharpen Your Sales Skills
47:49 The Mindset That Keeps People Stuck
49:35 The Power of Believing in Yourself
51:59 How to Sell Any Product Effectively
56:44 Sell Me This Pen
01:02:41 Why Assumptions Kill Sales
01:04:09 How to Handle Rejection Without Losing Momentum
01:07:27 How to Reframe Any Objection
01:12:07 The Right Way to Ask for a Raise
01:15:44 What Employers Are Really Looking For
01:20:06 It’s Not a No, It’s a Lesson
01:21:22 How to Talk About Your Wins Without Ego
01:23:24 The Most Challenging Deal of All
01:25:29 Why the Best Sellers Preempt Objections
01:27:12 Why We Struggle to Invest in Ourselves
01:30:57 Shelby on Final Five
Episode Resources:
Shelby Sapp | https://shelbysapp.com/
Shelby Sapp | https://www.instagram.com/shelby.sapp/
Shelby Sapp | https://www.youtube.com/@Shelbysappyt
She Sells | https://shesellsremote.com/
She Sells | https://www.instagram.com/shesellsacademy
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Today, Jay breaks down why so many of us feel drained, overwhelmed, and burned out, and what it really means to protect your energy. He begins by unpacking the quiet habits that drain us without us realizing it: overgiving, overcommitting, mistaking busyness for worth, and confusing being agreeable with being kind. Jay reminds us that our energy is our currency, and whether we notice it or not, we’re spending it with every text, every thought, and every interaction. The people in our lives either expand us or exhaust us, and often, our bodies recognize the truth long before our minds catch up.
Jay then breaks down the subtle relationship dynamics that quietly drain our energy. From emotional dumping and boundary testing to one-sided support and situational friendships, he explains how these patterns, often unintentional, slowly wear us down. He also turns the focus inward, revealing how we drain ourselves by seeking approval, avoiding discomfort, and trying to earn love through overextending. Protecting your peace isn’t about cutting people off, it’s about ending the cycle of self-betrayal that keeps you exhausted.
In this episode, you'll learn:
How to Protect Your Energy Daily
How to Stop Overextending Yourself
How to Respond When Someone Drains Your Energy
How to Run a Weekly Energy Audit
How to Build Physical, Emotional, and Energetic Boundaries
Take a moment today to breathe, recalibrate, and return to yourself. You deserve to feel grounded, clear, and whole. The more you honor your own capacity, the more you’ll show up in the world with the warmth, clarity, and presence you’ve been searching for.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
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What We Discuss:
00:00 Why Protecting Your Energy Matters
01:45 Your Energy Is Your True Currency
04:07 Energy Givers vs. Energy Takers
05:37 #1: The Emotional Dumper
06:48 #2: The Chronic Taker
07:36 #3: The Boundary Tester
09:04 #4: The Compliment Parasite
10:19 #5: The Situational Friend
11:39 The Hidden Inner Energy Leaks
14:01 Protecting Your Energy Without Becoming Cold
17:00 Three Practical Ways to Safeguard Your Energy
19:23 Reclaim Your Light
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Today, Jay welcomes internationally recognized psychic medium John Edward for an eye-opening conversation about grief, healing, and the survival of consciousness. John shares how people often come to him hoping for closure after losing a loved one, only to realize that what they truly find is connection. Rather than “fixing” grief, his work helps people recognize that love continues beyond the physical world and that healing comes not from moving on from loss, but from reframing how we see it. Through his own journey from skeptic to seeker, John illustrates how curiosity and openness can lead us to deeper truths about life and beyond.
Together, Jay and John break down the biggest misconceptions about mediumship, especially the fine line between skepticism and cynicism. John shares why healthy skepticism can actually be a gateway to discovery, while cynicism closes the door before anything begins. He also walks through the scientific studies that have examined his abilities, how he receives information through clairvoyance, clairaudience, and clairsentience, and why validation is at the core of every reading.
John emphasizes that no one truly “needs” a reading, they need understanding. By reframing grief as the other side of love, he invites us to honor our emotions, say what matters while our loved ones are still here, and discover meaningful ways to carry their presence forward. From keeping traditions alive to sharing their stories, John reminds us that our connections don’t end, they endure when we choose to include those we’ve lost in our everyday lives.
In this interview, you'll learn:
How to Reframe Grief Into Growth
How to Recognize Real Connection vs. Closure
How to Tell If a Psychic Is Genuine
How to Keep Loved Ones Present After Loss
How to Talk About Death Without Fear
How to Find Lessons Hidden in Grief
How to Honor Your Loved One’s Legacy
Grief may leave cracks in our hearts, yet those very cracks can become the places where light enters and strength is revealed. Each moment we choose to honor the past while embracing the present, we create space for deeper connection, renewed purpose, and lasting peace.
Check out John’s latest book, Chasing Evil: Shocking Crimes, Supernatural Forces, and an FBI Agent’s Search for Hope and Justice.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
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What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
00:28 Why Do People Really Go See a Medium?
01:11 Turning Grief Into Discovery
03:37 Skepticism vs. Cynicism
07:53 The Science Behind Psychic Studies
12:08 How Messages Are Received in a Reading
16:04 What Actually is a Psychic Medium?
18:10 Everything Is Energy
20:25 Red Flags to Look for in Readings
24:35 A Session That Changed Everything
30:20 Do We Ever “Need” a Reading?
33:03 Discovering Your Life Path
37:56 Challenges That Arise in Readings
41:36 Exploring Reincarnation and Consciousness
47:55 Choosing Between Fear and Love
49:40 When Grief Truly Begins
53:47 Say What You Need to Say Before It’s Too Late
57:42 Grief is the Other Side of Love
01:00:13 Finding Your Way Through Grief
01:02:12 The Truth About Time and Healing
01:05:27 Moving Forward When You Feel Stuck
01:07:08 Astrology as an Energetic Blueprint
01:10:42 Honoring and Living With Grief Every Day
01:12:13 Supporting a Grieving Parent
01:12:57 The Comfort in Knowing No One Really Dies Alone
01:16:22 Keeping Their Memories Alive After They’re Gone
01:19:38 Letting Go of Their Belongings to Heal
01:21:21 Internalizing, Not Externalizing Feelings
01:23:37 Chasing Evil
Episode Resources:
John Edward | https://johnedward.net/
John Edward | https://www.instagram.com/psychicmediumje/
John Edward | https://www.facebook.com/psychicmediumje
John Edward | https://x.com/psychicmediumje
John Edward | https://www.tiktok.com/@psychicmediumje
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Dr. Gabrielle Lyon doesn’t just talk about strength—she reframes it, revealing how building muscle is a daily practice of resilience, clarity, and long-term health.
Jay sits down with Dr. Gabrielle Lyon for a conversation that shifts how we think about health, strength, and aging. What starts as a conversation about fitness quickly becomes something deeper: our responsibility to our future selves. Jay shares his own journey with exercise, mindset, and consistency, while Gabrielle challenges long-held beliefs around weight loss, diet culture, and why so many people feel exhausted, stuck, or confused about their health..
Together, they unpack why muscle is far more than an aesthetic goal, it’s a metabolic organ that influences brain health, longevity, hormones, confidence, and disease prevention. Gabrielle breaks down why weight loss alone can backfire, how being “skinny fat” puts people at real risk, and why muscle loss may be linked to diabetes, Alzheimer’s, and chronic fatigue. Jay bridges the science to everyday life, digging into practical questions about protein, resistance training, walking, cardio, fasting, supplements, and how even small actions, like pushups or cold exposure, can create powerful mental shifts.
In this interview, you'll learn:
How to Build Muscle for Longevity, Not Just Appearance
How to Stop Chasing Weight Loss and Start Building Strength
How to Eat Protein in a Way That Actually Builds Muscle
How to Avoid Being “Skinny Fat” and Why It Matters
How to Balance Cardio and Resistance Training for Real Results
How to Build Physical Strength That Supports Emotional Resilience
No matter your age, starting point, or past habits, it’s never too late to build strength from the inside out. Aging is inevitable, but feeling weak, stuck, or disconnected doesn’t have to be. You are allowed to become stronger, mentally and physically, one choice at a time and that choice is always available to you today.
Check out Dr. Gabrielle Lyon’s latest book, The Forever Strong PLAYBOOK, the ultimate guide for anyone who wants to feel stronger, move better, and stay energized.
To order FOREVER STRONG, visit: https://drgabriellelyon.com/forever-strong/
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
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What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
01:16 Building a Stronger, More Resilient World
02:06 Why Everything Starts With the Mind
04:12 How Building Muscle Can Shift Your Mental State
06:23 Why Unhealthy Muscle Drives Obesity
10:53 Understanding Metabolic Syndrome
13:05 Why Is Gaining Fat Easier Than Building Muscle?
16:02 A Simple Framework for Building Muscle
19:39 Muscle Mass Matters More for Long-Term Health!
25:27 Men vs. Women: Is Building Muscle Different?
28:31 Simple Ways to Test and Build Grip Strength
34:59 The Hidden Dangers of Being “Skinny Fat”
38:01 How Highly Processed Diets Damage Muscle Health
42:41 How to Use Nutrition to Stimulate Muscle Growth
47:11 How Much Protein Do We Actually Need?
51:11 The Two Ways to Stimulate Skeletal Muscle
53:45 Being Sedentary Will Kill Your Progress
57:44 Don’t Skip Meals if You Want to Gain Muscle
59:39 Do 10,000 Steps Actually Build Muscle?
01:00:20 Do Pilates and Yoga Count as Strength Training?
01:01:11 Lifting Weights Is a Non-Negotiable
01:03:39 The Link Between Muscle Health and Fertility
01:06:58 The Only Organ System You Can Truly Control
01:09:10 Supplements That Actually Support Your Body
01:13:00 Are Protein Ice Creams Actually a Good Source of Protein?
01:17:22 How Food Companies Shape What You Believe
01:24:04 Gabrielle on Final Five
Episode Resources:
Website | https://drgabriellelyon.com/
Instagram | https://www.instagram.com/drgabriellelyon/
YouTube | https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCWPQJeWz4pvccA3lIoZ7j1Q
TikTok | https://www.tiktok.com/@drgabriellelyon
X | https://x.com/drgabriellelyon
Facebook | https://www.facebook.com/doctorgabriellelyon/
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Falling in love can be one of the most beautiful experiences in the world, but it can also be the place where we lose ourselves.
Today, Jay invites us to pause and reflect on how we fall in love, and what it’s costing us when we do. Love, he explains, isn’t meant to complete us or rescue us from our pain; it’s meant to add to a life that already feels rooted and whole. Too often, we mistake intensity for intimacy and attachment for alignment, ignoring the subtle signals that tell us whether a relationship is helping us grow or quietly pulling us away from who we are.
Jay unpacks the biggest mistakes we make in love, beginning with the habit of outsourcing our emotional healing. When we rely on a partner to regulate our emotions, fix our wounds, or validate our worth, love becomes a burden rather than a blessing. He encourages us to tune into the signals that matter most, how you feel after conversations, whether your energy expands or contracts, and if your values are being respected. These signals aren’t signs of failure; they’re invitations to deeper self-awareness and healthier connection.
In this episode, you'll learn:
How to Fall in Love Without Losing Yourself
How to Stop Making Love Your Identity
How to Let Love Add to Your Life, Not Replace It
How to Heal Yourself Without Relying on a Partner
How to Recognize Emotional Red Flags Early
How to Choose Someone Who Respects Your Life
How to Build Love That Supports Your Growth
Love doesn’t have to feel like losing yourself, proving your worth, or shrinking to be chosen. It can be calm, supportive, and deeply affirming when it’s built from self-respect and clarity.
With Love and Gratitude,
Jay Shetty
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What We Discuss:
00:00 Intro
01:11 How to Fall in Love Without Losing Yourself
02:10 The Biggest Mistake We Make in Love
03:42 #1: Love Should Bring More Join In
08:12 #2: Don't Outsource Your Emotional Healing
09:57 #3: Don't Ignore the Signals
13:14 #4: The Three Love Boundaries You Mustn't Cross
16:05 #5: Fall in Love with Someone Who Loves Your Life
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