On Purpose with Jay Shetty

Jay sits down with actress Lucy Hale, who at 37 says she feels more comfortable with herself than ever before. Lucy opens up about letting go of society’s timelines, navigating media scrutiny and body insecurity while growing up in the early days of social media, and her relationship with alcohol and path to sobriety. Lucy also shares her decision to freeze her eggs on her own terms, and how solitude, self-forgiveness, and personal growth have changed the way she approaches love, relationships, and herself.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Introduction

01:00 Reaching Her Grounded Era at 37

04:00 Releasing Societal Timelines & Comparison

06:40 Letting Go of The Pressure to Be Who Others Expected

13:56 Facing Oneself & Reframing Envy

16:28 The Need for Solitude From a Young Age

17:50 Reconnecting With Feminine Energy

20:40 Early Fame, Media Scrutiny & Perfectionism

24:20 Insecurities On Pretty Little Liars

27:35 Unpacking Past Coping Mechanisms & Learning to Forgive Yourself

32:14 The Ongoing Journey Of Sobriety

35:00 The Moment She Decided to go to Rehab

43:48 Advice For Anyone Seeking Sobriety

45:45 Dating Differently After Doing the Work

53:00 Waymo Cars & Delivery Robots

54:12 Rapid-Fire Game

56:44 Will There be a Pretty Little Liars Reunion?

58:46 Perspectives On Motherhood & Freezing Her Eggs

01:05:40 A Blind Date and The First Healthy Relationship

01:11:32 Looking for Signs in Everyday Life

01:16:58 Lucy On Final Five

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Jay breaks down why our minds are so quick to jump to the worst-case scenario, from the evolutionary roots of anxiety to why uncertainty can send us into a spiral. He shares three practical ways to interrupt anxious thinking, including separating fear from actual evidence and bringing yourself back to what’s true right now. Jay also introduces a simple “then what?” exercise to help you stop fearing what could go wrong and trust yourself to handle whatever comes next.

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Jay Shetty

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

00:24 Your Brain Is A Terrible Fortune Teller

02:42 Where Does Anxiety Come From?

06:14 How Your Brain Predicts What Could Go Wrong

09:32 Why Bad News Sticks in Your Mind

11:10 The Uncertainty Spiral

15:03 Stop Assuming the Worst, Look at the Evidence

18:11 Come Back to What’s Actually True

22:58 Getting Comfortable With The Unknown

26:35 The “Then What?” Exercise for Worst-Case Thinking

31:11 The Two Backpacks Analog

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In a rare and deeply personal conversation, Jay sits down with Oprah Winfrey to reflect on the defining moments, hard-earned lessons, and extraordinary journey that shaped her life. Oprah opens up about her earliest memories in Mississippi, surviving childhood abuse, and how those experiences shaped the woman she would become. She traces her remarkable rise from a small radio job to one of the most influential voices in the world, sharing the spiritual practices that have grounded her along the way and the Maya Angelou wisdom that transformed how she thinks about legacy. Oprah also reflects on what it means to live in true alignment with your soul and gives a glimpse inside her upcoming immersive experience at The Sphere and the next chapter she’s creating.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Introduction

00:53 Oprah Welcome To On Purpose

02:08 Early Childhood Memories In Mississippi

05:38 Early Experiences Of Self-Agency

10:34 Leaning Into God's Dream & Introducing "Spirit" To TV

13:57 Spiritual Evolution & The Prayer: "How Can You Use Me?"

15:36 Early Public Speaking & Church Roots

16:57 Listening To The "Still, Small Voice"

19:41 How to Trust Your Own Inner Knowing

21:23 Humble Beginnings & Dirt Roads

22:34 Unpacking Her Childhood Trauma

28:03 Teenage Pregnancy, Family Shame & Tabloid Betrayal

33:45 The Truth That Finally Set Her Free

37:23 Turning A Breakdown Into A Breakthrough

41:16 Oprah’s First Radio Job

44:40 The Career Move That Changed Everything

47:38 Announcing "Aha!": The Sphere Immersive Experience

56:10 Protecting Stillness & Operating With Intention

01:00:32 The Joy of Sharing & Launching The Book Club

01:06:09 Interviewer On Interviewer: Diana Ross & Her Most Impactful Guests

01:11:40 Living in Alignment With Your True Self

01:13:50 The Rarity And Miracle Of Human Life

01:15:50 Redefining What Legacy Means

01:18:09 Living In Dedicated Service

01:20:32 Moral Beauty & Planting Trees For The Future

01:21:40 Oprah On Final Five

Episode Resources:

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Record producer, songwriter, and music executive Benny Blanco joins Jay for an unfiltered, hilarious, and deeply vulnerable conversation about redefining success, overcoming crippling phobias, and why embracing failure is the ultimate secret to unlocking your true creative potential.

Benny pulls back the curtain on his chart-topping music career, sharing behind-the-scenes stories with artists like Ed Sheeran, Bruno Mars, and Britney Spears, while diving into his candid new book on mastering life’s setbacks. Together they explore how to overcome the fear of embarrassment, build emotional resilience, protect your mental health while chasing big dreams, and maintain a grounded, loving relationship under the spotlight.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

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What We Discuss:

00:00 Intro

01:58 Looking Back at the Songs That Started It All

03:07 Repeat “I Am a Failure”

04:18 Overcoming Embarrassment and Taking Big Swings

06:28 Early Lessons in Failure

08:20 Choosing Non-Traditional Creative Paths

09:51 Mom’s Dreams Vs Choosing Your Own Path

11:11 Turning Doubt Into Motivation

12:05 Ignoring The Haters and Finding Your Spark

13:39 Turning Small Steps Into Big Momentum

14:59 The Success Stool: Balancing Life’s 3 Pillars

15:37 The Power of Small Daily Habits

17:12 Relationships Need Watering Too

18:46 Facing Failure, Fear and a Phobia of Flying

21:45 Taking Micro-Steps to Conquer Deep Fears

23:04 One Task at a Time

24:04 Bruno Mars’ Journey

27:13 Authenticity vs. Imitation in Creative Expression

28:35 Late-Night Songwriting with Ed Sheeran

33:41 Trusting That It Will Work Out

34:19 Finding Your Unique Sound Beyond Influences

36:23 Unfiltered Vulnerability & Asking for Help

39:19 Celebrating Wins vs. Constant Over-Achieving

40:06 Standing Your Ground: Britney Spears to Julia Michaels

43:57 Grammy Perspective and Redefining Success

48:53 When a Failure Turns Into Your Biggest Win (“Diamonds”)

50:58 Mental Health Breakdown Amid Peak Success

53:06 Priority Management, Boundaries, and Emotional Check-ins

55:32 The Power of Saying “No” to Protect Your Peace

57:22 Why Benny Wrote His New Book

58:53 Benny Blanco on Final Five

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Jay explores how living in a world of likes, ratings, and constant feedback can make us lose touch with our own judgment. He shares five shifts for relying less on outside approval and building more trust in yourself: from learning to read yourself instead of the room and separating belonging from approval, to questioning what you really want and building self-trust through the small promises you keep to yourself.

With Love and Gratitude,

Jay Shetty

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What We Discuss:

0:00 Introduction

00:24 What’s Really Behind the Need for Validation

03:20 Five Shifts From External to Internal Validation

03:38 Reading The Room Vs. Reading Yourself

06:09 Evolution, Tribe Instincts, And Borrowed Opinions

08:18 Why is Rejection So Painful?

12:16 Escaping The Box

15:32 Auditing Your Desires And Expectations

18:06 Building Self-Trust Vs. Chasing Confidence

25:15 Stop Watching Your Life From the Outside
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