
Getting to Yes, And… | Ranjay Gulati – ‘The Science of Courage’
23/12/2025
Kelly welcomes Harvard professor Ranjay Gulati back to the podcast to discuss his new book, “How to Be Bold: The Surprising Science of Everyday Courage.” “Courage is a learned behavior, not an innate one.” “Heroes seldom act alone.” “Sometimes, frankly, we take confidence too far.”

Getting to Yes, And… | Nick Digilio – ‘A Love Letter to Chicago and the Movies’
18/12/2025
Kelly connects with longtime film critic Nick Digilio to talk about his new book “40 Years, 40 Films.” They discuss growing up in Chicago, falling in love with movies, and Nick’s start at WGN Radio on the Roy Leonard Show. Then they dig into some of Nick’s favorite movies, such as Albert Brooks’ “Lost in […]

Getting to Yes, And.. | Goldie Chan – ‘Personal Branding for Introverts’
16/12/2025
In this engaging conversation, Goldie Chan, a brand and storytelling expert, discusses the nuances of introversion, personal branding, and the dynamics between introverts and extroverts. She shares insights from her new book, ‘Personal Branding for Introverts,’ and emphasizes the importance of networking, small talk, and setting expectations in professional environments. Goldie also draws parallels between […]

Getting to Yes, And… | Daniel Moreno – ‘Chicago’s Holiday Train’
11/12/2025
Kelly talks to Venezuelan-born, Chicago-based photographer Daniel Moreno about his new book of photographs of Chicago’s legendary Holiday Train. “To me, the Holiday Train is more than a seasonal spectacle; it’s a train of light.” “I’ve felt the collective joy of strangers momentarily united by a shared sense of awe.” “In the end, the train doesn’t […]

Getting to Yes, And… | Bastian Bergmann – ‘Gaming is Serious Business’
09/12/2025
In this conversation, Kelly Leonard interviews Bastion Bergmann, co-founder and COO of Solston, about the significance of play in human experience and its implications for business strategy, particularly in gaming. They discuss how gaming can serve as a powerful tool for engagement and marketing, illustrated by Burberry’s innovative approach to integrating their brand into a […]



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