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Startups For the Rest of Us

Rob Walling
Startups For the Rest of Us
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  • Episode 801 | Competing Against Incumbents, Technical Co-Founders, Trademarks, and More Listener Questions with Derrick Reimer
    Can churn ever be good in SaaS? In this episode, Rob Walling is joined by fan favorite Derrick Reimer for a listener Q&A. They break down what it takes to compete with well-funded incumbents, how to decide whether to pivot or push forward, when a technical co-founder is truly necessary, the right time to think about trademarks, and the difference between “good churn” and “bad churn” especially when customers fall outside your ICP. Episode Sponsor: AI is completely changing how people discover brands and content online, and Ahrefs has built a full-blown SaaS marketing platform to help you stay ahead. With over 15 years of real-world web data, and AI that actually understands marketing, Ahrefs helps you measure your brand presence, build authority, and monitor reputation across search, social, and AI platforms like ChatGPT, Google AIOs, Perplexity, and more. You can also dig into what’s driving your competitors’ visibility and spot market gaps before they do, helping you create content that ranks and drive new traffic to your business. There's no need to juggle a bunch of disconnected tools- get Ahref’s all-in-one platform to make your brand unmissable in a fast-moving world.  Try it free at ahrefs.com/awt. Topics we cover:  (3:35) – Competing with well-funded incumbents (12:47) – Should you focus on competitors or customers? (20:20) – Pivot, press on, or move on: how to decide (29:09) – Finding and vetting a technical co-founder or partner (39:04) – When should you pursue trademarks? (44:24) – Is churn ever good for a startup? Links from the Show:  MicroConf US 2026 - Portland, Oregon - Use Promo Code ROB50 for $50 off. MicroConf Connect BIMI (Brand Indicators for Message Identification) SavvyCal Derrick Reimer | LinkedIn Derrick Reimer (@derrickreimer) | X If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you! Subscribe & Review: iTunes | Spotify
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  • Episode 800 | The 12 Commandments of Startups for the Rest of Us
    What if you could get all 15 years of this podcast bundled up into one episode?  In episode 800, Rob Walling goes solo for a special milestone installment of Startups For the Rest of Us. He covers the 12 foundational commandments that shape his approach to SaaS, hard-won lessons forged from years of building, investing in, and advising startups. Topics we cover:  (3:46) – #1: Nuance beats absolutes (6:52) – #2: Make hard decisions with incomplete information (9:16) – #3: Avoid the classic traps (12:22) – #4: Don't build without real evidence (15:14) – #5: Marketing beats product (19:08) – #6: Fewer customers, better customers (21:01) – #7: Respect (and fear) the platform (24:04) – #8: Build your network, not just your audience (26:30) – #9: Overnight success takes a decade (28:45) – #10: Stack small wins (31:22) – #11: Be careful who you listen to (33:15) – #12: The hardest battles are in your own head Links from the Show: MicroConf US 2026 - Portland, Oregon - Use Promo Code ROB50 for $50 off. Invest in TinySeed Fund Three SaaS Playbook The Entrepreneur's Guide to Keeping Your Sh*t Together Exit Strategy Episode 685 | 7 Things You Should Never Do Episode 700 | Playing the Long Game Episode 735 | The 8 Levels of SaaS Platform Risk If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you! Subscribe & Review: iTunes | Spotify
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  • Episode 799 | TinySeed Tales s5e6: $500k ARR!
    What's next for OutboundSync? In the Season 5 finale of TinySeed Tales, Rob Walling talks with Harris Kenny as OutboundSync blows past $500k ARR. Harris shares the wins and struggles of getting here, from choosing not to raise funding (for now), to planning a laser tag event no committee would approve, to what comes next on the road to $1M. Topics we cover:  (1:49) – Crossing $500k ARR and building personal health habits (5:36) – The big levers behind OutboundSync’s growth (6:39) – Laser tag, not hotel happy hours (13:01) – Deciding not to raise more funding (for now) (16:25) – An overbuilt tech stack  (17:57) – Competitors, copycats, and growing a brand (19:06) – The next chapter for OutboundSync (23:29) – Ambition, TinySeed, and channeling energy (25:14) – Harris’s advice for founders still grinding Links from the Show:  Invest in TinySeed Fund Three Coaching Call Bonus OutboundSync Harris Kenny | LinkedIn If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you! Subscribe & Review: iTunes | Spotify
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  • Episode 798 | Lessons From 10 Years of SaaS Growth Without a Hockey Stick
    How do you bootstrap a SaaS to $1 million+ ARR? In this episode, Rob Walling chats with Colin Bartlett about how he and his co-founder Andy transformed a side project monitoring tool into a seven-figure ARR business that now serves as an early warning system for outages across 6,000+ services.  From nearly abandoning the product during three stagnant years to discovering their killer differentiation, Colin's journey is a masterclass in patient iteration, finding product-market fit the hard way, and why sometimes the most boring infrastructure businesses make the best SaaS companies. Episode Sponsor: You’ve probably heard that ChatGPT can do all of your marketing. But that’s nonsense unless your strategy is blindly following tired, recycled, outdated strategies.  If you care about systematically creating a marketing engine that converts, not just throwing spaghetti at the wall to see what sticks, you need real humans who actually understand positioning, persuasion, and modern customer acquisition playbooks.  That’s Conversion Factory. They’re a SaaS marketing and design agency that have worked with over 50 startups, including several TinySeed companies.  Book a call at conversionfactory.co and mention this podcast for $1,000 off your first month. And if you’re at MicroConf Europe next week, make sure to connect with Corey Haines in the hallway track.  Topics we cover:  (3:08) – How StatusGator detects outages (and why users are part of the signal) (6:23) – From side project to SaaS: the early days of building StatusGator (8:46) – Shifting the ICP: Why developers weren’t the buyers (11:44) – SEO as the engine behind thousands of trials (17:00) – Hitting early MRR milestones and hiring the first marketer (25:12) – How TinySeed funding unlocked a full product redesign (32:05) – Building a dual funnel to boost ACV and win enterprise deals (38:00) – Advice for other SaaS founders playing the long game Links from the Show:  Invest in TinySeed Fund Three MicroConf Mastermind Matching - Applications open until September 24th StatusGator Colin Bartlett | LinkedIn If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you! Subscribe & Review: iTunes | Spotify
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  • Episode 797 | TinySeed Tales s5e5: Should I Raise More Funding?
    OutboundSync just hit $35k MRR—but the decisions are only getting harder.  In this episode of TinySeed Tales, Rob Walling and Harris Kenny dive into the messy middle of SaaS growth, where every opportunity comes with a trade-off. They explore the tension between raising funds you don't need, staying focused when good ideas keep coming, and building a business while raising a family. Topics we cover:  (2:28) – From $20k to $35k MRR in three months (2:53) – The bets that moved the needle (4:56) – Infinite runway, SOC 2 wins, and building trust (8:29) – Saying no to good ideas with limited bandwidth (10:00) – Decision-making, value-driven growth, and agency DNA (13:14) – Should Harris raise more funding or stay focused? (15:52) – Why boring “pipes” matter in an AI world (20:25) – Trade-offs, mindset, and building for scale (25:35) – Hiring a sales coach and focusing on what works (27:52) – Balancing startup stress with parenting Links from the Show:  SaaS Institute Coaching Call Bonus OutboundSync Harris Kenny | LinkedIn If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you’d like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We’d love to hear from you! Subscribe & Review: iTunes | Spotify
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The original podcast for bootstrapped and mostly bootstrapped startups, this show follow the stories of founders as they start, acquire, and grow SaaS companies. Hear when they fail, struggle, succeed, and take you with them through the tumultuous life of a SaaS founder. If you like Mixergy, This Week in Startups, or SaaStr, you’ll enjoy Startup for the Rest of Us.
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