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Startups For the Rest of Us

Rob Walling
Startups For the Rest of Us
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  • Startups For the Rest of Us

    Episode 852 | Getting Big Name Customer Case Studies and More Listener Questions (with Ruben Gamez)

    29/09/2026 | 32 mins.
    Should you be worried that another founder will steal your idea if you ask them for advice?

    In this episode, Rob is joined by Ruben Gamez to answer four listener questions: whether reaching out to more advanced founders puts your idea at risk, how to convince big name customers to agree to a case study, what to do when a platform ecosystem (like Shopify's app store) turns hostile, and how to sell a B2G SaaS product when your sales cycle only runs during the hours you're already at a day job.

    Want to get your question answered? Submit your question for an upcoming episode.

    Topics we cover:

    (1:59) – Fear that outreach could get an idea stolen

    (3:50) – Why no one actually steals ideas

    (9:12) – Getting copied is inevitable once you're public

    (13:45) – How to land big brand case studies

    (15:39) – Using discounts to secure case studies

    (18:11) – Shopify's fake review extortion

    (20:21) – Should you move to a standalone SaaS

    (25:06) – B2G SaaS around a day job

    (28:29) – Why GovTech rarely attracts angel investment

    Links from the show:

    Tiny Summit | December 5–7, 2026 · Cancun, Mexico

    TinySeed SaaS Institute

    MicroConf

    SignWell

    Ruben Gamez (@earthlingworks) | X

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you'd like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We'd love to hear from you!

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    Episode 851 | The Messy Middle of a SaaS Pivot

    22/09/2026 | 43 mins.
    How do you pivot your SaaS when things aren’t working?

    This week Rob talks with Nathan Tyler, founder of BlinkMetrics, about the messy, uncertain process of finding product market fit in real time. Nathan walks through why his original EOS scorecard idea didn't work, how hundreds of coffee chats led to a done for you reporting business, and why he just launched a second product, BlinkPages, right in the middle of it all.

    Topics we cover:

    (2:43) – The Staging Pilot exit to Pantheon

    (4:44) – BlinkMetrics origin story

    (5:59) – 104 coffee chats, real revenue

    (8:09) – Why not launch 12 products in 12 weeks

    (9:39) – Launching a second product: BlinkPages

    (13:09) – Squarespace to BlinkPages migration

    (17:03) – Why static sites beat WordPress now

    (21:02) – Knowing when to pivot

    (25:26) – Market pull vs. shiny object

    (32:10) – Pricing migrations, hosting, and AI costs

    Links from the show:

    Get your Ticket for MicroConf US - Austin, Texas on April 18 - 20, 2027 | Use promo code ROB50 

    BlinkMetrics

    BlinkPages

    The SaaS Playbook

    Exit Strategy Book

    Nathan Tyler | LinkedIn 

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you'd like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We'd love to hear from you!

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    Episode 850 | How Not to Screw Up When Hiring Your first Developer and More Listener Questions (with Derrick Reimer)

    15/09/2026 | 51 mins.
    How do you onboard a hire onto a codebase you built alone?

    In this episode, Derrick Reimer joins Rob to tackle four listener questions. They cover hiring and onboarding your first developer as a bootstrapped founder, then move into the temptation to build features just because AI makes them cheap to ship, getting past social anxiety as a founder, and whether it's worth trademarking your product name.

    Topics we cover:

    (3:59) – How do you hire your first developer?  

    (5:14) – Qualities to look for in a first developer hire

    (13:37) – Onboarding a new hire into your codebase with AI

    (16:49) – Reducing hiring risk: pairing, reliability, recruiters

    (22:50) – The temptation to build features just because AI makes it cheap

    (30:43) – Getting over social anxiety as a founder

    (35:25) – Is trademarking your product name worth it?

    Links from the show:

    TinySummit | December 5–7, 2026 · JW Marriott, Cancun

    MicroConf US | April 18–20, 2027 · Austin, TX

    Partnerships: sponsors@microconf.com

    Idea to Traction: Stop Building SaaS Nobody Wants (book wait list)

    Rob Walling Newsletter

    Remote First Recruiting 

    SavvyCal

    Derrick Reimer | LinkedIn

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you'd like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We'd love to hear from you!

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    Episode 849 | Legal Threats, AI as Platform Risk, Building Confidence, and More Listener Questions (Rob Solo)

    08/09/2026 | 29 mins.
    Ever gotten a vague cease and desist from a competitor and wondered if you actually did something wrong?

    This week I tackle four listener questions: how seriously to take competitor terms of service threats, whether AI is really a platform risk (or just a feature risk), how to build confidence and get past the fear of reaching out to prospects, and when a non-founder employee should walk away from a company that's missing founder activation energy.

    Want to get your question answered? Submit your question for an upcoming episode.

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    Topics we cover:

    (01:05) – Are terms of service threats legitimate?

    (04:25) – No attorney-client privilege with LLMs

    (06:39) – AI as platform risk explained

    (08:21) – Will AI subsume your features?

    (10:55) – Will AI costs drop over time?

    (14:22) – Mitigating LLM downtime risk

    (16:06) – Structuring an enterprise pilot program

    (17:56) – Building confidence despite social anxiety

    (23:05) – When to quit as a non-founder

    Links from the show:

    Idea to Traction: Stop Building SaaS Nobody Wants (book wait list) 

    Rob Walling Newsletter

    TinySeed Portfolio

    TinySeed Accelerator

    Rob Walling YouTube Channel 

    MicroConf

    The SaaS Playbook

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you'd like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We'd love to hear from you!

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    Episode 848 | What Liquid Death Can Teach Us About B2B SaaS (Rob Solo)

    01/09/2026 | 22 mins.
    Does validation still matter when AI has made building software almost free?

    In this solo episode, Rob breaks down the origin story of Liquid Death, the canned water company now valued at over a billion dollars, and pulls out the mental models that apply directly to B2B SaaS. He covers why ideas come from being in the arena, how founder Mike Cessario validated the concept with a fake product before manufacturing anything, and why "I just want to build" is usually an excuse worth dropping.

    Topics we cover:

    (1:05) – Where the Liquid Death idea came from

    (4:12) – Mike Cessario's punk and advertising background

    (5:22) – The backstage Monster tour water insight

    (7:18) – Ideas come from being in the arena

    (8:02) – Why "give me 10 ideas" doesn't work

    (9:35) – Putting in the reps to build skills

    (11:23) – Why validation still matters with AI

    (12:11) – How Cessario validated with a fake product

    (15:46) – The repeatable framework behind it all

    (18:07) – Learning from outliers and the bootstrapper's gift

    Links from the show:

    MicroConf US | April 18–20, 2027 · Austin, TX

    Idea to Traction: Stop Building SaaS Nobody Wants (book wait list)

    Michael Girdley YouTube Channel

    Liquid Death

    Mike Cessario | LinkedIn

    The SaaS Playbook

    TinySeed

    The Lean Startup by Eric Ries 

    If you have questions about starting or scaling a software business that you'd like for us to cover, please submit your question for an upcoming episode. We'd love to hear from you!

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About Startups For the Rest of Us
The original podcast for bootstrapped and mostly bootstrapped startups, this show follow the stories of founders as they start, acquire, and grow SaaS companies. Hear when they fail, struggle, succeed, and take you with them through the tumultuous life of a SaaS founder. If you like Mixergy, This Week in Startups, or SaaStr, you’ll enjoy Startup for the Rest of Us.
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