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Laura & Lyn
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  • Divorce and Wastage: Protecting Your Property When Your Ex is spending it all
    🎧 Listen to this episode if you… 💸 Suspect your ex has been wasting money during or after separation ⚖️ Want to understand what the new Family Law Act changes (June 2025) mean for add-backs 📑 Need to know how to prove wastage in court or mediation 🏡 Worry your savings could be treated unfairly if your ex has spent theirs 🧾 Want practical tips on disclosure, evidence, and how to talk to your lawyer ⚠️ Disclaimer: This is general education only and not legal advice. Please seek advice from your own lawyer about your specific circumstances. Divorce property settlements just got a major shake-up in Australia. On June 10, 2025, the Family Law Act changed—and the Full Court confirmed the new approach in Shinohara & Shinohara [2025] FedCFamC1A 126. So what does that mean for you? In today’s episode, we break down wastage and add-backs—what they are, how they used to work, and what the courts now say. We explore: The difference between wastage during the relationship vs after separation How gambling, drugs, alcohol, or reckless spending are treated The risks when your ex is stalling, hiding money, or draining joint accounts How to prove wastage with disclosure, documents, and chronologies What to say to your lawyer or mediator so it doesn’t get missed If you’ve been scrimping and saving while your ex has been spending big, this episode will help you understand how the law now protects you—and how to raise it at mediation or in court. ⚠️ Disclaimer: This is general education only and not legal advice. Please seek advice from your own lawyer about your specific circumstances.   ⏱️ Episode Timeline – What We Discuss: 00:00 – What are wastage and add-backs in divorce property settlements? 01:28 – How do courts define wastage and add-backs in family law? 03:36 – What are the new legal changes (June 2025) and how do they affect divorce property division? 07:12 – How does wastage during and after marriage impact property settlements? 16:25 – How can you prove wastage in court after separation? 27:13 – What kind of proof and financial chronology does the court expect? 27:34 – Why keeping a clear chronology helps in divorce proceedings 28:30 – How do you raise financial wastage issues in mediation? 29:37 – What mediation strategies and legal cases should you know about? 30:50 – How is wastage treated in property settlement negotiations? 38:34 – Why is the separation date and superannuation balance so important? 43:40 – How do you handle wastage claims with a high-conflict or avoidant ex? 48:47 – What are the key takeaways for protecting yourself under the new family law changes?   📌 Links & Resources Mentioned Case Update: Shinohara & Shinohara [2025] FedCFamC1A 126 (23 July 2025) ​​https://www.austlii.edu.au/cgi-bin/viewdoc/au/cases/cth/FedCFamC1A/2025/126.html   Our Free Webinar: thedivorcecourse.com.au    Related episodes: DIY Disclosure in Divorce  https://open.spotify.com/episode/49yOIB1GLDmXgeZCXkfyJS?si=eGN8WdTBQQql5-9WzT-NsA Legal Gatekeeping & What Your Lawyer Might Not Tell You https://open.spotify.com/episode/086JRHdfn0TGR2vyhhLD2z?si=49tG9RYPQtWFIJDOryviOw   💡 Final Thoughts The law around wastage and add-backs has changed dramatically. If your ex has been wasting money, don’t give up—there are still ways to make sure the court takes it into account. The key is evidence, preparation, and raising it early. 👉 If this episode was helpful, please share it with a friend, rate the podcast, and leave a review—it helps others find the support they need.  📌 Legal Disclaimer: This is a general discussion and not legal advice. Please see a qualified lawyer for advice specific to your situation. 🆘 Emergency & Support Contacts: 💜 Women’s Shelter: 1800 811 811 📞 Lifeline (24/7 Crisis): 13 11 14 👨‍👧 Mensline Australia: 1300 789 978 👧 Kids Helpline: 1800 551 800 🚨 DV Hotline: 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732)
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  • ChatGPT and Divorce: 4 AI Traps That Could Hurt Your Case
    Listen to This Episode If You: 🗣️ Have used ChatGPT or AI tools to write legal documents 📱 Are wondering if your chat history could be used in court 🧾 Need help drafting or planning divorce paperwork 🤯 Feel overwhelmed and are tempted to “just ask ChatGPT” ⚖️ Want to avoid serious legal mistakes caused by bad AI info 🧠 Are using AI to organize your thoughts, but unsure where the line is   More and more people are turning to AI tools like ChatGPT during their separation or divorce — but is it helping… or hurting your case? In this episode, we explore the four major risks of using AI in your divorce process and show you how to use it safely (if at all). From the scary reality that your chats can be subpoenaed, to the truth about AI “hallucinations” in affidavits, we break it all down so you don’t get caught off guard. We also share ways you can use AI smartly — for planning, organizing thoughts, or building checklists — but why you still need legal and emotional support from real people. 📌 Legal Disclaimer: This is general information only and not legal advice. Always consult a lawyer for your personal situation.   ⏱️ Episode Timeline – What We Cover: [00:00] – Can You Use AI in Divorce? An Introduction to ChatGPT and Legal Tech [00:48] – Important Legal Disclaimer: Why AI tools can’t replace professional legal advice [01:29] – What Are AI Tools Like ChatGPT? Overview of how people use AI in divorce [02:41] – Should You Use AI to Draft Consent Orders? Key risks and considerations [05:47] – Can ChatGPT Write My Affidavit? The dangers of AI-generated court documents [08:14] – Why ChatGPT Isn’t a Lawyer: Understanding the limitations of AI in family law [12:23] – Is AI Just Telling You What You Want to Hear? How emotional bias can show up [15:35] – Can AI Be Used as Evidence in Court? Legal risks of relying on chat transcripts [20:53] – Upcoming Webinar Announcement: Learn more about using tech in legal separation [23:26] – Are Judges Ready for AI in Family Law? How courts are adapting to tech tools [24:07] – What Evidence Will the Court Accept? Tips on using tech tools wisely [24:25] – How Legal Communication Has Evolved: From letters to chat logs [25:25] – Key AI Risks to Watch for in Divorce Cases: What the law doesn’t forgive [27:01] – How to Use AI Safely: Smart ways to organise your thoughts and prep for court [29:23] – Real Cautionary Tales: What can go wrong when AI replaces your legal team [33:31] – Final Tips and Takeaways: When AI is helpful—and when it’s risky     🎙️ Related Episodes Putting Coercive Control into writing for Affidavits etc https://open.spotify.com/episode/6Ci0M4DqznBf1L1kcZM3vY?si=Bxeequf0R3G2LNjMWGwiSw   Divorce Survival: when you feel like giving up https://open.spotify.com/episode/77KUxaiDS3dKQJl9ly5QtA?si=LMmJ7f0sRXqW5sFWJCb7Tg   12 agreements creating your own parenting plan https://open.spotify.com/episode/6j325rOj96QvV8spPnYsX5?si=J2zhKMgqRrGgKjsh1UbicA   📌 Links & Resources Mentioned:   📞 1800 RESPECT – National Family Violence Support 📞 Lifeline: 13 11 14 – 24/7 Emotional Support 🆘 Emergency & Support Contacts: 💜 Women’s Shelter: 1800 811 811 📞 Lifeline (24/7 Crisis): 13 11 14 👨‍👧 Mensline Australia: 1300 789 978 👧 Kids Helpline: 1800 551 800 🚨 DV Hotline: 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732)    📌 Legal Disclaimer: This is a general discussion and not legal advice. Please see a qualified lawyer for advice specific to your situation.
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  • Divorce Survival: 5 Strategies to Keep Going When You Feel Like Giving Up
    Listen to this Episode If You: 💔 Feel like the divorce process is dragging on and you’re running on empty ⚖️ Need legal strategies to slow things down without giving up entirely 🛡️ Want practical ways to protect your emotional energy 👶 Are trying to stay strong for your children while navigating court or mediation 💬 Need a pep talk (with a legal twist) to help you keep going If you’ve ever thought, “I just can’t do this anymore” during your separation or divorce, this episode is for you. Laura and Lyn share a heartfelt mix of practical legal steps and emotional strategies to help you through the moments when giving up feels like the easiest option. From taking baby steps and giving yourself permission to pause, to understanding how far you’ve already come, this is part pep talk, part legal guide — designed to help you push forward with clarity and confidence. They also cover how to handle deadlines from aggressive lawyers, the value of aligning your actions with your values, and why you’re probably doing far better than you think (even if it doesn’t feel like it right now). 📌 Trigger Warning: This episode discusses family violence and post-separation abuse.   ⏱️ Episode Timeline – What We Discuss: [0:00] – Feeling like giving up? Here’s why your future (and your kids) need you to keep going [2:00] – Five strategies to help you keep moving forward in divorce [4:00] – Strategy #1:  [7:00] – Strategy #2: [9:00] – Legal ways to request more time in your case [11:00] – Recognising pressure tactics designed to make you quit [12:00] – Strategy #3: [14:00] – Why timelines help you see progress and keep motivated [15:00] – Strategy #4:  [18:00] – Remembering why you’re doing this — for your kids and your future [19:00] – Strategy #5:  [27:00] – Handling post-separation abuse without giving up [30:00] – Setting boundaries to protect yourself from relentless contact [33:00] – Recap of the five key strategies [34:00] – Download your free “Don’t Give Up” worksheet [36:00] – Final encouragement to keep going — it will end   🔑 Key Takeaways: Small, consistent actions are better than trying to fix everything at once Pausing isn’t quitting — it’s a strategy for survival Remind yourself of your past wins to boost confidence Stay aligned with your values and instincts to avoid regret Progress is happening, even when you can’t see it 🎙 Related Episodes: When everything is spinning out of control in your divorce https://open.spotify.com/episode/4f4ArIZ83EX2faBqvf4jZs?si=WQJlsOw5RAWIOGQ1PYEMCA BATNA in Divorce https://open.spotify.com/episode/32goMT4kUIbZlS4NBSAvQu?si=NGX19wQ0RCCFMzvBiSXLTA When your mediation goes wrong what to do next? https://open.spotify.com/episode/32goMT4kUIbZlS4NBSAvQu?si=NGX19wQ0RCCFMzvBiSXLTA 10 essential boundaries for divorce https://open.spotify.com/episode/0ecDTxw4rTc3zXBkcjuYpA?si=Ym0pV1ThQxWwDFH3SldYkg  📌 Legal Disclaimer: This is a general discussion and not legal advice. Please see a qualified lawyer for advice specific to your situation.  
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  • BATNA in Divorce: How to Negotiate Property and Parenting Like a Pro
    Listen to This Episode If You… 🔍 Are heading into mediation and want to feel prepared, not panicked ⚖️ Want to make smart decisions about property and parenting outcomes 🧠 Have heard of BATNA but don’t quite know what it means or how to use it 🚪 Are unsure what your “walk-away” option looks like in negotiations 💬 Feel pressured to agree to something that doesn’t feel fair or safe 🧾 Want to understand your options without relying solely on court 🛠️ Are looking for practical, tips to empower your next steps 📌 Legal Disclaimer: This episode is general information only and is not legal advice. Always seek professional legal support for your specific situation. 📌 Trigger warning: discussions of family court and family violence.  Are you heading into mediation or negotiating a divorce agreement? This episode is your practical guide to understanding BATNA (Best Alternative to a Negotiated Agreement) and WATNA (Worst Alternative to a Negotiated Agreement)—two essential tools to protect your future. An experienced lawyer and mediator walks you through how to prepare your own BATNA, why it’s important in family law (especially when emotions are high), and how it gives you clarity and confidence when facing tricky decisions about property, parenting, and more. If you’re unsure what’s fair or fearful of being pushed into a bad deal, this episode will help you step back, assess your options, and negotiate smarter. BATNA in Divorce: How to Negotiate Property and Parenting Like a Pro ⏱️ Episode Timeline – What We Cover: [00:00] – What Are BATNA and WATNA? Introduction to Divorce Negotiation Strategies [01:31] – How Do BATNA and WATNA Help You Make Better Divorce Decisions? [02:29] – Why Is Preparation the Key to Stronger Negotiations? [04:19] – What Can You Learn from Real-Life Mediation Examples? [08:28] – How Do You Create a BATNA for Property Settlement After Divorce? [17:09] – What Are the Steps to Build a BATNA for Parenting and Custody Arrangements? [21:49] – What Is the Emotional Cost of Going to Court Instead of Settling? [23:15] – How Do Courts Prioritize the Best Interests of the Children? [24:04] – What Role Do Family Reports and Child-Inclusive Mediation Play? [25:22] – How Can a BATNA-Based Parenting Plan Help You Prepare? [26:22] – What Is a WATNA and Why Should You Know Your Worst-Case Scenario? [28:04] – What Are Red Flags and Manipulative Tactics to Watch for in Mediation? [32:45] – What Financial Disclosure Do You Need for Fair Negotiations? [33:57] – How Can Knowledge and Preparation Empower You in Family Law Negotiations? [39:26] – What Are Your Next Steps to Negotiate Smarter and Safer? Questions  BATNA for Property Settlement List All Assets and Debts (the Property Pool) Include houses, cars, superannuation, bank accounts, loans, credit cards, etc. Make sure you also list post-separation contributions (e.g., mortgage payments, childcare, etc.). Identify What You Need Financially Calculate your living expenses and future financial needs. Consider your housing needs, especially if you're the primary carer of children. Understand What the Law Might Award You Review how courts typically divide property in similar cases. Think about contributions, future needs, and Section 79(2) & (5) of the Family Law Act. Consider What You’d Get If You Went to Court Estimate legal costs, time delays, and emotional toll. This court outcome becomes your BATNA (or WATNA if it’s worse than a fair settlement). Build a Realistic Plan B Example: “If we can’t agree, I’ll apply for consent orders, or go to mediation, or file in court.” Include practical details — e.g., who will live where, interim arrangements, etc. BATNA for Children’s Arrangements Write Out What’s Best for the Children Consider their schooling, routines, health needs, and emotional safety. Outline a Parenting Plan That You Think Is Fair Include time with each parent, holidays, special events, decision-making responsibility. Assess Your Ex’s Likely Position What are they asking for? Is it reasonable? What might they agree to under pressure? Research What a Court Might Do Courts focus on the “best interests of the child” under Section 60CC of the Family Law Act. Understand how risk factors (like family violence) may impact parenting decisions. Create Your BATNA Parenting Plan If you don’t reach agreement, what’s the next best option? (e.g., apply for interim orders, request a Child Impact Report, or attend family dispute resolution). 🧠 Want more tools like this? Check out our other episodes on mediation, property settlement, and high-conflict negotiation strategies at thedivorcecourse.com.au. Episodes Mentioned Master your negotiations Iron Fist in a velvet glove https://open.spotify.com/episode/7D54dfjnCBW6pfkxnbgW2f?si=il_ZZ384T2KgbzQFmzB61g   Can you really mediate with a narcissist?  https://open.spotify.com/episode/3Vjl0I9xXUQruoAQKLVh11?si=bFaYC3hyQjyCL67k0ZW2uQ Financial Fairness: Spousal Maintenance and Child Support https://open.spotify.com/episode/3S73M140m759WcOrrKms2k?si=Fz4UCZkIQmiyfcfVJ4CxBg   Disclosure the what where why how https://open.spotify.com/episode/07olqt4NN0MQQ0Y5KiHkP2?si=kRpLYf9YRF6FCAtYAzU7Bg Overcoming Disclosure Dilemmas https://open.spotify.com/episode/0uOO8dKYV4NWlCfyu8FZEh?si=MsizEEDsS3y9z7CbXeCgrQ When your mediation goes wrong and what to do next https://open.spotify.com/episode/4WQhunLQVtWn02k5FT7Mpv?si=A70GJh9pQDSfKn6OEz7VPQ Support Services: 💜 Women’s Shelter Service: 1800 811 811 ⚖️ Legal Aid: Visit your state’s Legal Aid website 📞 Lifeline (24/7): 13 11 14 👨‍👧‍👦 Mensline Australia: 1300 789 978 👧 Kids Helpline: 1800 551 800 🚨 1800 RESPECT – National DV Hotline: 1800 737 732  
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  • Family Law & Privacy: Can Your Ex Access Your Therapy Notes?
     Listen to This Episode If You: 🧠 Are considering seeing a psychologist during your separation 😨 Worry your ex might access your private or your child’s counseling records 📜 Want to understand the new Family Law Act changes around protected confidences ⚖️ Need clarity on subpoenas and how courts decide what’s relevant 💔 Fear that private health or therapy records could be weaponized against you 👩‍👧‍👦 Want to protect yours or your children’s emotional safety during family law proceedings Trigger warning: this discusses family violence and abuse.  In this important episode, we unpack the changes to the Family Law Act (effective June 10, 2025), giving courts new powers to protect sensitive medical and psychological records in family law matters. We’ll cover how this change helps protect parents and children from having deeply personal information dragged through court, how to apply for protected confidences, and when courts might still allow access to private records. Whether you’re negotiating a parenting plan, heading into court, or trying to support your children with therapy, this episode gives you the knowledge and questions to ask your lawyer so you can make informed decisions about confidentiality and subpoenas. 📌 Legal Disclaimer: This episode is for general information only and not legal advice. Always seek independent legal and psychological advice for your situation. Trigger warning: this discusses family violence and abuse.    ⏱ Episode Timeline – What We Discuss: [0:00] – What’s new in family law and why protecting your sensitive information matters [0:37] – Key disclaimers before we dive in [1:01] – Recent changes to the Family Law Act Australia explained [1:31] – Why sensitive information can impact your safety and case outcomes [4:35] – What counts as sensitive information in family court cases during Divorce? [5:43] – Practical tips to keep your sensitive details protected in court during divorce [6:48] – How the family court helps protect private and confidential information [9:37] – Real-life examples: when and how to protect documents during divorce [13:11] – How to make a legal objection or application to protect documents during Family Court [19:48] – Mediation and pre-action procedures involving sensitive material during divorce proceedings. [23:19] – How to object in family court to sharing private information during your divorce proceedings. [23:35] – What role does the family court judge play in deciding on sensitive disclosure? [24:42] – What happens if you agree (or are pressured) to share sensitive documents in your divorce proceedings? [25:44] – What to do if you feel coerced to disclose private details during family court. [26:51] – The family law legislation and family court rules that protect your privacy [30:20] – How to balance presenting evidence and protecting yourself in Domestic Violence Family Law cases [31:35] – Can psychologists be subpoenaed in Family Court? What happens to your child's notes? [36:58] – How court-ordered counseling and reports may affect children during Family Court [39:57] – Final thoughts, key takeaways, and where to get help   🔑 Key Topics Covered: New Family Law Act provisions on confidentiality and subpoenas How parents can protect their child’s psychologist notes Legal processes for objecting to subpoenas The risks of waiving your right to privacy (even unintentionally) When private records can strengthen your case Balancing evidence needs with emotional and psychological harm Tips for speaking to your lawyer about protected confidences 📌 Links & Resources Mentioned: 📝 Attorney-General’s Fact Sheet on Protected Confidences https://www.ag.gov.au/families-and-marriage/publications/family-law-changes-june-2025-protecting-sensitive-information 📞 1800 RESPECT – National Family Violence Support 📞 Lifeline: 13 11 14 – 24/7 Emotional Support 🎙 Related Episodes: When Divorce Isn’t The End: Post-Separation Abuse https://open.spotify.com/episode/1V23F0O5yhQt9NFLPOu6uJ?si=YIkUS7njRUS8tsvFunT_ng   What is a subpoena? https://open.spotify.com/episode/4nVleHBTW9o4qOpeWhqgRt?si=KOUoIuctQs6KSf5zwq92nA    📌 Legal Disclaimer: This is a general discussion and not legal advice. Please see a qualified lawyer for advice specific to your situation. 🆘 Emergency & Support Contacts: 💜 Women’s Shelter: 1800 811 811 📞 Lifeline (24/7 Crisis): 13 11 14 👨‍👧 Mensline Australia: 1300 789 978 👧 Kids Helpline: 1800 551 800 🚨 DV Hotline: 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732)  
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This Mother and Daughter duo discuss and cover the legal stages and steps that you will face on your way to freedom through divorce. These are practical and real discussions with Lyn Galvin a family lawyer of 35 years experience and her daughter Laura a divorced mother of three. Laura helps turn her mother's lawyer jargon into something everyone will understand. Lyn shares all her tips and practical advice on separating. Through this podcast they aim to help you through your Australian divorce or de-facto separation to make it more cost effective and less stressful. instagram @thedivorcecourse
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