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The Edu Salon

with Deborah Netolicky
The Edu Salon
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    Jeremy Hannay on counter-cultural leadership for happy, high-performing schools

    04/04/2026 | 44 mins.
    Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Jeremy Hannay about counter-cultural leadership, navigating the pace of change, and how to pursue happiness and high performance at the same time. Jeremy is Executive Principal of Three Bridges Primary School and Wolf Fields Primary School in Southall, London. Originally from Canada, he has spent over a decade leading in one of the world’s most high-stakes education systems while advocating for a more human, growth-centred approach to school improvement. A former Pearson National Headteacher of the Year, he speaks and writes internationally about leadership, learning and how to grow strong schools without being defined by performance-driven systems.

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    - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram
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    Paul Kidson on sustainable and hopeful school leadership

    28/02/2026 | 49 mins.
    Deborah Netolicky talks with Associate Professor Paul Kidson about leadership in schools that is hopeful, sustainable and personalised. Paul leads Educational Leadership postgraduate courses at the Australian Catholic University. He is one of the researchers on Australia’s largest and longest running principal wellbeing research project, the Australian Principal Occupational Health, Safety, and Wellbeing Survey, as well as a frequent media commentator on educational matters. He has co-designed several aspiring principals and middle leadership programs in both the government and non-government sectors. Prior to his academic career, he was a school principal for over 11 years. In addition to his academic qualifications and experience, he is a Graduate of the Australian Institute of Company Directors, a Fellow of the Institute for Managers and Leaders, and is currently President of the NSW Branch, and National Board member, of the Australian Council for Educational Leaders.

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    - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram
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    Amanda Bell on leadership and governance in schools

    31/01/2026 | 47 mins.
    Deborah Netolicky talks with Dr Amanda Bell AM about leadership and governance in schools. Amanda is a highly experienced leader, an accomplished non-executive director and strategic facilitator whose advisory work concentrates on strategic futures, leadership development and masterclasses for boards, CEOs and senior managers. She holds several board directorships and is past Principal of The Women’s College within the University of Sydney. Amanda was appointed a Fellow of the Australian Institute of Company Directors (FAICD), the Australian College of Educators (FACE) and the Australian Institute of Management (FAIM). She was recognised in The Queen’s Birthday 2017 Honours List as a Member of the Order of Australia (AM) for significant service to education, particularly to young women as a leader and academic, and to the visual arts.

    Want to know more?
    - https://futureleadership.com.au/team/amanda-bell/
    - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram
    - The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Instagram
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    Erica McWilliam on joy and challenge in learning and teaching

    10/12/2025 | 48 mins.
    Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor Erica McWilliam AM about the joy in the rigour of learning, reclaiming the magic of teaching, and the importance of knowing. Erica is an internationally recognised scholar of pedagogy and creativity, whose career spans more than forty years. Moving from classroom teaching to senior academic roles in Australia and Singapore, Erica is known for her work on innovation, futures of work, and ‘low threat, high challenge’ approaches to learning. She has led major research programs, including the Creative Workforce 2.0 initiative, and is the author of The Creative Workforce. Her contributions to education were recognised with the award of a Member of the Order of Australia.

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    - https://www.qut.edu.au/about/our-people/academic-profiles/e.mcwilliam Join the conversation on social media.
    - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram
    - The Edu Salon: @theedusalon on Instagram
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    Gert Biesta on teaching and the beautiful risk of education

    01/11/2025 | 43 mins.
    Deborah Netolicky talks with Professor Gert Biesta about teaching, knowledge and the purpose of education. Gert is Professor of Public Education at the Centre for Public Education and Pedagogy, Maynooth University. His work on the theory and philosophy of education is translated into over 20 languages, covering key interests such as curriculum, teaching, teacher education, democracy, and citizenship education. Gert’s books include 'Beyond Learning', 'The Beautiful Risk of Education', 'The Rediscovery of Teaching', and 'World-Centred Education'.

    Want to know more?
    - https://www.gertbiesta.com/

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    - Deb: @theeeduflaneuse on Instagram
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About The Edu Salon

The Edu Salon podcast is a space for connection and conversation around education. Each episode, Dr Deborah Netolicky talks with a global education thought leader to provide insights into where education is now and where it might move next. Like the French salons of the 18th century, this podcast is a place for a diverse range of voices to explore ideas and generate discussion in order to change the world for the better. It has at its heart a focus on humanity, equity, democracy, and the experiences of young people. Available on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, Soundcloud, Amazon Music and Audible. Join the conversation on Instagram @theedusalon and by connecting with Deb on LinkedIn.
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