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Lucy Lord joins James Smith for a wide-ranging conversation that starts with the air fryer sitting unused on 70% of UK kitchen counters and ends up tearing apart everything from protein marketing scams to the slow death of the British night out. A best-selling cookbook author and the woman behind Supper Club, Lucy is back with her third book, Love Your Air Fryer, and makes the case that cooking your own food is the most underrated act of self-care left in the modern world.

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She explains:

◼️ Why the air fryer is the most underutilised tool in your kitchen

◼️ How cooking is the lowest-hanging fruit for looking and feeling better

◼️ The protein con quietly corrupting your supermarket shop

◼️ Why "increasing your surface area for luck" works in dating, business and life

◼️ How "touching your future" rewires what you think you're capable of

Chapters:

00:00 Intro

01:00 The Air Fryer Problem No One Talks About

03:50 Why Cooking Is the Most Underrated Form of Self-Care

06:37 Air Fryer vs Oven — Why the Oven Is Becoming Obsolete

11:19 The Apple vs Probiotic Soda Con

12:54 Skipping the Foundations and Chasing the Trends

15:33 The Protein Ball Scam Exposed

19:23 Protein Water, Huel and the Death of the Real Meal

22:05 Why Britain's Grab-and-Go Culture Is Broken

23:15 James's Brutally Honest Review of Japan

27:44 Karoshi — Japan's Death From Overwork Crisis

29:09 The Birth Rate Collapse Hitting the Western World

32:11 Hustle Culture Is Stealing Men's Best Years

34:35 The 200 Dates That Led James to Tay

37:11 Lucy on Whether She Actually Wants Kids

39:01 Increasing Your Surface Area for Luck

39:45 Volume vs Intensity — The Dating Strategy That Works

43:52 GLP-1s, Smartphones and the Death of the Night Out

45:55 The Quiet Crisis of Men Disappearing From University

47:03 The Mumps, the Missed Lectures and James's Year of Chaos

50:21 Is a University Degree Even Worth It Anymore?

53:13 Inside Lucy's New Book — Love Your Air Fryer

58:39 Why James Is Forcing Lucy Onto YouTube

01:04:02 The Random Idea That Sold 3,500 Hats

01:06:28 How to Start a YouTube Channel With Just an iPhone

01:10:18 The Advice You Give Is the Advice You Need

01:10:33 Why James Avoids Gratitude

01:12:18 The Car as Forced Gratitude

01:13:04 Touching Your Future — The Concept That Changed Everything

01:17:46 Where to Find the Book, the Hats and Supper Club

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Michael Morris joins James Smith to dismantle the popular myth that tribalism is humanity's curse. A renowned cultural psychologist and Columbia Business School professor, Morris argues that our tribal instincts aren't hardwired hatred for outsiders, they're the very adaptations that allowed humans to outcompete Neanderthals, build civilisations, and cooperate at scales no other species can match.

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He explains:

◼️ Why tribal instincts are the glue of human cooperation, not division

◼️ How the peer, hero, and ancestor instincts shape every group you join

◼️ Why dating apps and social media distort our perception of attractiveness

◼️ How cults and extremist groups exploit our conformist psychology

◼️ Why ordinary Germans went along with the Nazis — and why you probably would too

Chapters:

00:00 The Myth of Hardwired Tribal Hatred

01:51 What's Actually Wrong With Tribalism

03:30 Defining Tribal Instincts Properly

05:08 The Three Waves: Peer, Hero, Ancestor

07:07 Why Humans Evolved Differently to Apes

10:17 Do Chimpanzees Have Culture?

12:02 How Culture Shapes Political Systems

15:22 The Overlooked Positives of Tribalism

19:05 The Small Tribes All Around Us

22:04 How Leaders Actually Change Culture

24:02 Ancient DNA and the Neanderthal Story

28:21 Cannibalism and Neanderthal Inbreeding

29:28 The Trolley Test of Human Decency

33:41 How Homo Sapiens Outcompeted Neanderthals

36:48 Why Groups of Humans Become Apex Predators

37:35 Modern Family Structures and Dating Apps

40:06 The Body Dysmorphia Crisis Online

44:10 Social Media as a Funhouse Mirror

45:14 James on American Political Polarisation

47:11 The Addiction of Virtue Signalling

49:19 Hot Takes and the Race for Status

51:36 Where Status Sits in Tribal Psychology

54:21 Why We Imitate Celebrities and Heroes

56:01 The Asch Experiment and Conformity

59:04 Heaven's Gate and the Mechanics of Cults

01:00:58 The Decline of Young Men's Social Groups

01:03:16 Would You Have Been a Nazi?

01:05:36 The Milgram Shock Experiment

01:06:47 Why Tribalism Is the Solution, Not the Problem

01:10:00 Where to Find Tribal

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Anthony "Staz" Stasziker, a former special forces officer, shares essential life advice on the importance of hard work, discipline, and the problem with living a comfortable life. Staz highlights that true success, much like military training in special ops, is not easily achieved but requires dedication. It's about putting in the effort, not just romanticizing the idea.

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Chapters

00:00 - Why Comfort Is Making Us Weak

01:33 - The Friction We Desperately Need

06:34 - How Jiu-Jitsu Changed Everything

08:12 - Leaving Special Forces With Nothing

12:14 - The Hidden Force Controlling Your Life

19:28 - Are We Raising a Generation of Losers?

25:02 - From Failed Footballer to Elite Sniper

31:34 - What They Don't Tell You About Special Forces

41:53 - The Future of War Is Terrifying

51:59 - The Real Reason Men Are Falling Apart

56:04 - The Trauma Nobody Talks About

01:00:57 - The Drug Curing PTSD Overnight

01:06:34 - Why He Climbed Everest in 7 Days

01:22:19 - Buried Alive on the World's Highest Mountain

01:43:38 - What He Learned at 29,000 Feet
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Ian Leslie joins James Smith to unpack the uncomfortable truth about honesty: we can't actually handle it. A bestselling author and host of the Where Shall We Meet podcast, Ian argues that lying isn't a bug in human nature but an evolutionary feature — the very thing responsible for our big brains, our creativity, and our capacity for art.

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James opens up about being honest with his employees, hiring a brutally candid editor for his next book, and how a rugby coach telling him he "played like shit" taught him more than any polite feedback ever could.

He explains:

◼️ Why lying is a sign of intelligence, creativity and empathy in children

◼️ How the online world breeds dishonesty

◼️ Why office politics is passive aggression at scale

◼️ How trust is the prerequisite for any productive disagreement

◼️ Why sport is civilisation's greatest cage for our warrior instincts

Chapters:

00:00 Why Lying Is Hardwired Into Our Intelligence

01:22 The Problem With Honesty Is We Can't Handle It

03:14 The Invention of Lying and Useful Deception

06:12 Why Lying Sits in Our Moral Grey Zone

08:37 When Your Child Should Start Lying to You

10:48 Autism, Theory of Mind and Honesty

12:01 Conformity as a Form of Social Lying

14:30 Self-Deception and the Lizard Brain

15:59 Cults, Ideologies and Online Group Lies

19:37 Interrogation Tricks and Cognitive Load

22:05 Telling Stories Backwards to Catch Liars

22:46 The Jiu-Jitsu Ringworm Test

25:18 Artists as Legitimised Liars

26:24 Bob Dylan's Reinvention and the Line Between Lying and Art

27:18 Embellishment, Storytelling and Social Incentives

28:50 Advertising as a Lie We Collude In

30:08 Dating Dynamics and Honesty With Women

32:29 Why Honesty Is Your Best Bet in the Long Run

34:09 The Woman Who Lied About Her Age

36:04 Botox, Makeup and Physical Deception

38:13 Height, Ethnicity and the Online Dating Filter

41:13 How Digital Breaks Humans Into Packets

41:56 Why Workplaces Are Full of Bullshit

44:14 Office Politics as Passive Aggression at Scale

45:06 James Getting Dropped From His Rugby Team

47:22 Hiring a Brutally Honest Editor

48:40 Trust as the Prerequisite for Honesty

50:00 The Two Channels of Every Difficult Conversation

52:19 Jiu-Jitsu, Conflict Resolution and Primal Urges

55:06 Sport as Civilisation's Substitute for War

57:37 Michael Jordan as a Roman Warrior

57:58 John Jones and the Beautiful Cage of MMA

58:24 The Ashes, the Barmy Army and Sportsmanship

01:00:24 The Gilded Cage of Rules and Norms

01:01:13 Zero-Sum Games and Honest Feedback

01:03:09 Why Participation Medals Miss the Point

01:05:16 Giving Brutal Feedback on Content

01:07:16 Have You Earned the Right to Be Honest?

01:08:26 Ian's Book: John and Paul — A Love Story in Songs

01:11:22 The Creative Power of Love

This conversation takes a candid look at why deception is woven into the fabric of human intelligence, the corrosive cost of workplaces where nobody says what they think, and the trust that has to exist before honesty can actually land. Ian's perspective on disagreement, creativity and the relationship channel beneath every argument offers a sharp counterpoint to James's trademark bluntness — and the result is a conversation that will change how you think about every hard conversation you've ever avoided.
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James Haskell joins James Smith for a brutally honest conversation about life after professional sport, the chaos of building multiple businesses, and what it actually takes to stay relevant when the game is over. A former England rugby star, Sunday Times bestselling author, and DJ, Haskell pulls no punches on the mental cost of reinvention — and why his obsession with performing has never really left him.

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James opens up about the fear of failure that drove him through rugby, the strange emptiness that follows success, and why 40 felt like the moment everything had to change. From DJing in a music industry that doesn't return emails, to launching Black Eye Gin with a £1.50-per-bottle charity model, to finally getting his testosterone tested — this one covers ground most people won't.

He covers:

◼️ Why being your own business is feast or famine — and how to future-proof it

◼️ The DJ career no one takes seriously (yet)

◼️ Building undeniable proof against self-doubt

◼️ Why catastrophising your future can be a legitimate motivational tool

◼️ What testosterone at level 3 actually feels like — and what TRT changed

◼️ The email list gap that's costing him (and you) real money

Chapters:

00:00 There Are a Lot of Lost Men Out There

01:23 The Problem With Being Your Own Business

03:22 Life After Rugby — Planning vs Panic

05:05 Finding What You Actually Want to Do

05:30 The DJ Career: 12 Years, 31 Records

07:22 MMA, Surgeries and the Body Paying the Price

09:24 Going Back to Basics in 2026

10:18 Why Haskell Got Into DJing

12:01 Building Undeniable Proof Against Self-Doubt

13:31 Imposter Syndrome, Evidence Bases and Therapy at 17

15:35 Creating Common Enemies as Motivation

18:06 Catastrophising as a Motivational Mechanism

18:44 Defining What Success Actually Looks Like

19:21 Why Very Wealthy Men Lose Their Money

20:01 The Rocky Montage Years: Fear of Failure as Fuel

20:52 Learning to Sit In the Moment

22:00 The Music Industry Is a Wild West Shambles

24:50 The 50 Cent Tour Story — Music vs Every Other Business

27:03 Drug Culture, Harm Reduction and the Honest Conversation

30:49 What He'd Tell His Daughter About Drugs

32:02 Social Media, Innocence and Raising Kids Today

33:39 Does Civilisation Correct Itself?

35:40 On Politics, Reform and Weak Leaders

37:13 Hair Transplants, Prince William and Shaving Your Head

39:14 The James Haskell Effect on Rugby Back Rows

41:47 Henry Pollock, Pranks and the England Camp

44:03 The Witch Teeth Prank at the Dentist

45:24 The 2007 World Cup — and Ronny Ring's Band of Brothers Moment

49:01 Maidenhead RFC, Getting Dropped and a Mate's Game of His Life

53:41 Black Eye Gin — The Charity, the Recipe and the Origin

57:06 Rugby, UFC and Sports That Don't Apologise for Themselves

59:55 Trying Neutonic for the First Time

01:01:05 Building an Event That Combines Sport, Music and Fitness

01:07:19 Peptides, BPC-157 and Healing a Torn Bicep

01:09:05 Testosterone at Level 3 — Getting on TRT

01:20:32 The Relevancy Trap and Running Active Businesses

01:22:38 The Infinity Pool Story — Getting the Balance Right

01:26:36 Why Haskell Doesn't Have an Email List (Yet)

01:27:46 The Email Marketing Masterclass He Didn't Ask For

01:37:57 What's Coming Next: Music, DJ Gigs and the Tequila Launch

This is one of those conversations that goes everywhere — rugby war stories, music industry chaos, drug policy, fatherhood, hormones, hair transplants, and the uncomfortable truth that being very good at performing doesn't automatically make you good at business. Haskell is funnier, more self-aware, and more switched-on than most people give him credit for — and this is the version of him you don't usually get to see.
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