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The Midlife Chrysalis

Chip Conley
The Midlife Chrysalis
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  • The Midlife Chrysalis

    How to Heal Trauma in Your Body and Mind | Rebecca & Jaimie

    20/04/2026 | 44 mins.
    In this powerful episode of the Midlife Chrysalis, Chip Conley sits down with two women who’ve pushed their limits, physically, emotionally, and psychologically, and came out transformed.

    Meet Rebecca Rusch, a world-class endurance athlete who biked the Ho Chi Minh Trail to reconnect with her late father, and Jaimie Lusk, a former Marine turned psychologist helping veterans heal from deep psychological wounds. Together, they reveal what happens when life forces you to face what you’ve been avoiding.

    Here’s what you’ll discover:
    Why midlife isn’t a crisis, but a turning point you can’t ignore
    What “moral injury” is, and how it quietly shapes your behavior
    Why success and achievement often mask deeper pain
    How your body plays a key role in healing your mind
    Why nature can reset your nervous system

    This isn’t just about midlife. It’s about what happens when everything you built no longer feels like you. If you’ve ever felt stuck or like something is missing… this one will hit.

    Watch now.

    Timestamps:
    (00:00) Intro
    (00:44) Meet Rebecca and Jaimie
    (02:42) From Marine to psychologist
    (04:32) The moment everything clicked
    (05:54) Emotional journey behind Blood Road
    (08:29) A workshop built on nature and movement
    (09:32) Why you can’t avoid inner work forever
    (12:20) What is moral injury
    (15:01) Why you must face the pain
    (17:40) Success can hide deeper wounds
    (19:31) Losing identity and starting over
    (22:35) Midlife isn’t a crisis
    (25:31) Feeling lost is part of the process
    (28:05) Reconnecting mind and body
    (31:25) Push yourself or slow down
    (33:01) The 3 skills that shape your life
    (34:16) Wisdom bumper sticker
    (38:07) Why nature changes everything
    (40:23) The takeaway from this episode

    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/

    #MidlifeChrysalis #ChipConley #MoralInjury #MidlifeHealing #TraumaAndHealing #VeteranHealing #PTSDRecovery #EnduranceAthlete #BloodRoad #InnerWorkJourney #MidlifeAwakening #NatureHeals #MindBodyHealing #LifeAfterTrauma #FindYourselfAgain
  • The Midlife Chrysalis

    Stop Living on Autopilot. Start Living for Real | Bonnie Wan

    17/04/2026 | 52 mins.
    Most people don’t realize they’re living someone else’s life until it’s too late.

    In this episode, Chip Conley sits down with Bonnie Wan, a renowned brand strategist and author of The Life Brief, who has spent decades studying human behavior, and now helps people redesign their lives with clarity and intention.

    Through her “Life Brief” method, people learn how to cut through the noise and make decisions that truly align with them.

    Key insights:
    Why clarity alone doesn’t change your life
    The one question that reveals what you really want
    How to stop living on autopilot
    What’s really behind feeling stuck in midlife

    If something feels off but you can’t explain why, this will make it clear.

    Watch now and start taking your life back.

    Timestamps:
    (00:00) Intro and episode setup(04:04) Bonnie Wan introduction
    (04:44) Early life and path into advertising
    (07:47) The “Got Milk” story and key insight
    (13:05) What is The Life Brief
    (14:46) Clarity and “Fuck Yes” feeling
    (16:24) Why people feel stuck in midlife
    (17:10) Powerful questions to change your life
    (20:00) Marriage crisis and breakthrough
    (23:06) “Take Our Time” life brief
    (26:15) From career to calling
    (30:01) Ambition from the inside out
    (31:38) What gets better with age
    (33:09) What does “enough” really mean
    (35:43) Redefining wealth as relationships
    (36:11) Designing a slower, intentional life
    (40:25) “Chase your goosebumps” advice
    (41:56) Breaking free from the success script
    (47:40) Final reflections and closing

    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/

    #LifeBrief #BonnieWan #FindYourFuckYes #MidlifeClarity #LifeOnPurpose #StopLivingSomeoneElsesLife #LifeRedesign #ClarityInLife #MidlifeAwakening #IntentionalLiving #LifeStrategy #PersonalClarity #ReclaimYourLife #InnerKnowing #LifeReset
  • The Midlife Chrysalis

    Knowledge Won’t Save You. Curiosity Will

    15/04/2026 | 27 mins.
    You don’t stay relevant by knowing more. You stay relevant by staying curious.

    In this episode of Wisdom Wednesday, Chip Conley joins Derek Gehl to break down why curiosity, not experience or intelligence, is the real edge in midlife and beyond.

    Here’s what stands out:
    Curiosity is the antidote to irrelevance
    Asking better questions beats having the right answers
    Midlife requires a shift from knowledge to wisdom
    Learning for no reason can unlock new purpose
    Staying curious keeps your mind sharp and engaged

    It’s a simple shift, but it changes everything.

    👉 Watch now and start thinking like a beginner again

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Why curiosity improves work and life
    03:34 Curiosity as antidote to irrelevance
    06:18 Chip’s experience at Airbnb
    10:10 Power of asking better questions
    12:33 Curiosity vs learning explained
    14:46 Curiosity and innovation culture
    18:04 Learning for curiosity not productivity
    18:48 Turning curiosity into new paths
    22:45 How curiosity looks for everyday people
    25:51 Learning for the sake of passion
    26:56 Lifelong learning and aging
    28:38 Curiosity and brain health
    29:07 Key question what are you a beginner in
    30:12 Creating space for curiosity

    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/

    #curiosity #growthmindset #lifelonglearning #midlifegrowth #selfimprovement #personaldevelopment #mentalfitness #stayrelevant #learnhowtolearn #askbetterquestions #mindsetshift #reinventyourself #emotionalintelligence #careertransition #wisdom
  • The Midlife Chrysalis

    She Quit a 30-Year Career to Help Others Rebrand Their Lives | Robin Fisher Roffer

    13/04/2026 | 45 mins.
    Midlife might be the moment everything finally starts to make sense.

    In this episode of The Midlife Chrysalis, Chip sits down with branding expert Robin Fisher Roffer, who spent over 30 years shaping major brands, to explore how those same principles can help you reinvent your life.

    Robin shares her own powerful transition, stepping away from a successful career to start a whole new chapter, and what she’s learned along the way.

    In this episode, you’ll discover:
    Why real change starts by reconnecting with your original story
    The 3 essentials of a strong personal identity: clarity, consistency, and authenticity
    How to define your own “tagline” for your next chapter
    A refreshing way to see midlife as freedom, finally

    If you’re feeling ready for something new, or just a little more you, this one will stay with you.

    👉 Watch now and take the first step toward your next chapter.

    Timestamps:
    03:44 Father’s influence and childhood story
    06:55 Early exposure to advertising
    08:12 Career path and starting agency
    09:56 Brand strategy principles explained
    13:34 Intuition and big ideas in branding
    16:34 Applying branding to personal identity
    18:33 Workshop transformations and examples
    20:04 Fast decision-making and creativity
    21:59 Rebranding midlife discussion
    24:50 Taglines and brand positioning
    27:28 Personal midlife transformation
    32:26 Moving to Santa Fe and lifestyle
    34:48 Wisdom bumper sticker
    39:21 Workshop experience and benefits

    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/

    #MidlifeReinvention #RebrandYourLife #StartOverAt60 #LifeAfter50 #PersonalBranding #FindYourPurpose #CareerChange #NextChapter #SelfReinvention #WomenOver50 #LifeTransformation #PersonalGrowth #SecondAct #MeaningfulLife #MidlifeChrysalis
  • The Midlife Chrysalis

    Feeling Lost? Use Inner Tracking to Find Your Path| Lee Johnson

    10/04/2026 | 1h 1 mins.
    Midlife can feel confusing, off track, or quietly unsettled, and you’re not the only one feeling it. 

    In this episode of Midlife Chrysalis, Lee Johnson, a mindfulness guide and teacher, shares his journey from ranch life to guiding others through mindfulness and “inner tracking,” offering a grounded and deeply human perspective on finding your way without a clear plan. 

    Here’s what you’ll take away:
    • Why feeling lost in midlife is often a turning point, not a problem
    • What inner tracking is and how it helps you make aligned decisions
    • How to trust your path even when nothing feels certain
    • Why disconnection is so common and how to reconnect with yourself
    • A simple awareness practice you can use right away 

    If midlife has you questioning your direction, this conversation will bring clarity and calm.
    Watch now and start finding your way back. 

    Timestamps:
    00:00 Introduction and welcome
    00:22 Lee Johnson’s origin story
    01:10 Early influences and spiritual mentors
    02:56 Energetic imprint and childhood experiences
    04:00 Alaska years and connection to nature
    05:30 Holistic health and yoga ashram journey
    07:09 Life at Kripalu and spiritual growth
    08:30 Native American teachings and Vipassana
    09:57 Regenerative agriculture and land philosophy
    12:09 Leaving the ranch and searching for purpose
    14:24 Joining the ranch and new beginnings
    17:17 Transition to teaching and inner work
    19:53 Self-doubt and stepping into leadership
    21:24 Discovering guided meditation and teaching
    22:53 Inner tracking explained
    27:37 Intuition and life path insights
    30:23 “I don’t know where I’m going…”
    31:33 Observations on midlife transformation
    35:28 Disconnection and modern life
    38:55 Guided inner tracking exercise
    44:03 Workshops and teaching approach
    47:29 Collaboration with partner Melanie
    48:26 Life advice and awareness practice
    52:57 Turning wounds into wisdom 

    Learn more about MEA at ⁠https://www.meawisdom.com/ 

    #MidlifeChrysalis #MidlifeTransformation #FindYourPurpose #LifeTransitions #InnerWork #MindfulnessPractice #PersonalGrowth #MidlifeJourney #SelfDiscovery #EmotionalWellbeing #LifeDirection #SpiritualGrowth #ReconnectWithYourself #InnerPeace #PurposeInMidlife

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About The Midlife Chrysalis

The Midlife Chrysalis is a one-hour podcast hosted by Chip Conley, bestselling author of Learning to Love Midlife and founder of MEA (Modern Elder Academy). Chip and his high-profile guests – including Maria Shriver, Hoda Kotb, Elizabeth Gilbert, Michael Franti, and more – dive into raw, vulnerable conversations about the profound transitions they’ve experienced in midlife. Listeners get a rare look at how even the most successful individuals have to navigate life’s pivotal changes – and gain practical wisdom they can apply in their own lives for a more fulfilling and purposeful next chapter.
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