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Podcast Unmade: media and marketing analysis
Tim Burrowes
Media and marketing news with all the in-depth analysis, insight and context you need. Unmade offers industry news from an Australian perspective, from the fou...

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  • Here comes Tubi
    Welcome to a midweek update from Unmade, on the morning after News Corp’s main marketing-industry focused event of the year, D_Coded. Yesterday’s big announcement was Tubi. Two months after announcing the sale of Foxtel, News Corp is back in the TV business.Also today, Enero’s sinking share price hits the lowest point in more than a decade.News Corp Australia gets back into TV with TubiFor a while now, I’ve been puzzled by Tubi.It’s the biggest asset in the extended News Corp universe not to have a presence in Australia. In the US, Tubi is a big deal. Its share of total TV viewing is nearly 2% and it’s bigger than Peacock, Paramount+ and Max. In some quarters it’s been bigger than Disney+.Actually, it’s not entirely true to say that Tubi has not had a presence in Australia. Tubi has been here all along and repped by Foxtel Media. But it didn’t receive much love, even as it built towards 1.3m active monthly users locally.When I interviewed Foxtel boss Patrick Delany this time last year, I told him I was surprised they were not doing more with Tubi.At the time, Delany argued that the reason for Tubi’s success in the US is the fact that it’s entirely free to its audience. While Australia’s free to air networks are available over the airwaves, US viewers are used to paying for everything they watch via cable. So Tubi was a bigger point of difference, he argued.However, I suspect that was not the only reason. With Foxtel about to pass into the ownership of DAZN, Tubi now represents News Corp’s seat back at the table of television. It didn’t make sense for News Corp to go hard until the Foxtel deal was done.Tubi has a straightforward business model. There’s no paid membership tier. It’s pureplay FAST - free ad-supported streaming TV.That puts Tubi in the same space as 7plus, 9now, Tenplay, along with global players like Paramount’s Pluto TV. And of course, with the FAST services being offered by the connected TV providers.Incidentally, Tubi lives within the other half of the Murdoch empire, Fox Corp. News Corp is effectively a local rep.In today’s podcast I interview News Corp’s executive chairman Michael Miller. He pushes back against my assumption that Tubi lacks premium content. And while it’s true that Tubi has a deep archive, a look at the home page this morning reminds me of the experience of standing in the discount section of my local video store. They looked like blockbusters, but I just hadn’t heard of them.(Titanic 2, anyone? Jack’s back… and he’s got a score to settle about the whole floating door episode.)Tubi’s secret weapon is the world’s favourite price point: free. There are plenty of Australians who can’t or won’t afford to pay for their streaming.And its not-so-secret weapon is the marketing firepower of News Corp. Would Kayo or Binge have grown without the company’s cross promotion?In my conversation with Miller, he places Tubi as a “top three or four” marketing priority for the year.And News Corp is backing the push with an aggressive price point - a launch price of a $15cpm.Considering that’s likely to be big brand advertising on the main lounge room screen, that’s an aggressive price.By the way, in case you can’t read the small print on the screen behind sales boss Barrett in the photo above, the price is for campaigns with a minimum spend of $20,000, running before June 30. And “independent measurement unavailable”.The rest of today’s conversation with Miller spans the other announcements around D_Coded, including marketer-friendly expansions of its Intent Connect planning system, and the company’s continuing efforts to make the concept of engaged reach a thing.Miller also makes it clear that News Corp still views the coming election and US trade war concerns as a delay, not an end to the News Media Bargaining Code framework. “We have been patient,” he says.Unmade Index fights off Trumpcession fears as Enero sinks to decade-long lowDespite an early selloff triggered by global concerns over a looming Trumpcession, the Unmade Index bounced back in later trading yesterday to finish flat.The biggest local weight on the Unmade Index, Nine, was lifted by its majority-owned real estate platform Domain. Nine was up by 1.3%, while Domain rose 1.8%.ARN Media was up by 4.9%, taking it back above a $200m market capitalisation.Among stocks moving in the other direction, print and marketing group IVE lost 8.6%, while Seven West Media lost 3.2% to land on its lowest point since January. Southern Cross Austereo was down by 3.6%.Enero Group, owner of ad agency BMF among others, slumped by 6.7% to land on its lowest share price in more than a decade.The Unmade Index ticked up by a fraction, rising by 0.09% to land on 551.2 points.Time to leave you to your Thursday. We’ll be back with more tomorrow.Editing was courtesy of Abe’s Audio, the people to talk to about voiceovers, sound design and podcast production.We’ll be back with more soonHave a great day.Toodlepip…Tim BurrowesPublisher - Unmade + [email protected] This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.unmade.media/subscribe
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  • BotD: Live from Compass Auckland; Ooh Media finds momentum; yet another Clems rethink
    Welcome to a Best of the Day wrap from Unmade.Today: We share the highlights from Compass Auckland, Ooh Media finally discovers some momentum, and big moves on the Unmade Index.If you’ve been thinking about upgrading to an Unmade membership, this is the perfect time. Your membership includes:* A complimentary ticket to all of Unmade’s events, including HumAIn (6 May), REmade (23 September), Unlock, and Compass (November), all returning in 2025.* Member-only content and our paywalled archives;* Your own copy of Media Unmade.‘Embrace AI, or face an extinction-level event’The final episode of the 2024-25 series of Compass rolled into Auckland last week.The audience at the iHeart Lounge heard from Matt Martel, managing editor for audience and platforms at the New Zealand Herald, Jo Mitchell, CMO of The Warehouse Group; Paul Pritchard, group CEO of Overdose, and Angela Watson, CEO of Colenso BBDO on some of the key topics getting adland out of bed and keeping it awake at night.The topics ranged from the impact of last year’s closure of Newshub to the disruption being wrought by AI, to whether it’s time for marketers to dial back on their platform spend.Pritchard told the audience that the biggest challenge he saw the industry face last year was “lack of control”. He added: “I felt like things happened to us, not because of us.”According to Martel, the closure of Newshub should be taken as a signal for action. “It was a strong and important part of New Zealand media. It's now gone.“We need to act. Because if we don't act, we can see the train that's coming down the tracks at us.“The problem is not the quality of what we do, it's the monetisation of what we do. If we don't change what we do now, if we don't embrace AI, if we don't embrace different ways of doing what we've always done, then there will be an extinction-level event for everyone in this room in ten years, if not sooner.”And Pritchard urged a rethink for where the industry spends its marketing budgets: “We spent a lot of time letting international technology players come to every market and sell, sell, sell at really low costs. And that disrupted the media. It challenged the content and the quality of that content. And then when they disrupted it, they decided to put the prices up.“And it's a pretty simple economic environment that we're all facing. The thing we can do to counter it is we can own our own content. We can own our own customer.“We decided that it was just better to throw money at something that continually worked, right? Those metrics of return on ad spend and cost of customer acquisition -they were really attractive for a long time.“Now they're less attractive, but everyone's hooked on it. So maybe we need to go cold turkey for a little bit.”The event was organised by Unmade with the support of NZME, Lumo and Scentre Group’s BrandSpace.Ooh Media’s turnaround beginsOoh Media will likely soon make it official with its acting chief revenue officer Mark Fairhurst after his first two months in the chair sparked a turnaround in the company’s sales trajectory.The emergency appointment of Fairhurst, previously executive general manager of QMS, came in December following the exit of chief revenue officer Paul Sigaloff after just 19 months.In its full-year results released this morning, Ooh Media’s revenue and profits were virtually flat for the year, up by 0.3% to $635.6m and 3% to $287m respectivelyOoh Media’s 2023 and 2024 results were almost identical. However the company’s momentum entering the first quarter has radically improvedOoh Media is on track to bring in 14% more revenue in the current quarter compared to the same time last year.CEO Cathy O’Connor again acknowledged that Ooh Media’s sales operation has been slow and hard to deal with. She told today’s analysts’ call: “We heard from the market that we were slow to respond.”Ooh Media’s said its new offering Reo - which assists mid-tier retailers enter the retail media space by outsourcing sales operations and assisting with the digital side - is also picking up momentum. Newly announced clients include Officeworks, Petbarn, and Australia Post, with others in the pipeline.Unmade Index buoyed by Ooh Media and IVE Group resultsOoh Media’s improved performance saw it lock in a hefty 15.6% jump in market capitalisation during an action-packed day on the Unmade Index.IVE Group, which also reported solid results today, rose by 6.4% while Seven West Media gained 2.9%.Meanwhile, Nine lost 5.8% as the market continued to digest news of CoStar’s bid to buy its majority-owned real estate platform Domain.As a result of the decline of Nine - the biggest weighted stock - the Unmade Index sank by 0.3% to 560.6 points.Best of the Day: News winners; Clems loser; Slater & Gordon’s strugglesABC back at the topABC News moved back past News Corp’s news.com.au as the site with the biggest audience. According to Ipsos Iris, the ABC’s monthly audience grew to 12.5m in January, ahead of news.com.au which lost 3.4% to land on 11.8m.Another Omnicom ad restructureDani Bassil became the latest Clemenger Group CEO to be ousted after failing to recapture the creative brand’s glories of previous decades. Omnicom announced that Clemenger, Traffik and CHEP Network will all be folded into the Clems brand. Under chief creative officer Ant Keogh, who departed in 2017, and CEO Peter Biggs, who left in 2014, Clemenger Melbourne was regularly the world’s most awarded agency.Too little, too SlaterLaw firm Slater & Gordon was criticised for failing to adequately handle a PR crisis after a critical all-staff email leaked the salary details of employees along with criticism of management.Meanwhile IVF clinic Genea was tonight dealing with an even bigger PR crisis after revealing that a data leak has seen hackers seize highly personal patient details.Today’s podcast was edited by Abe’s Audio.Time to leave you to your evening.We’ll be back with more tomorrow. Have a great night.Toodlepip…Tim BurrowesPublisher - Unmade + [email protected] This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.unmade.media/subscribe
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  • 'I love winning': Atomic 212 boss Barry O'Brien on staying hungry, and selling to Publicis
    Welcome to an audio-led edition of Unmade in which we talk to the two key players behind Publicis Group’s purchase of independent Media agency Atomic 212. If you’ve been thinking about upgrading to an Unmade membership, this is the perfect time. Your membership includes:* A complimentary ticket to all of Unmade’s events, including Compass Auckland (February 18), HumAIn (May 6), REmade (September 23), Unlock (October), and the Compass Australia series (throughout November);* Member-only content and our paywalled archives; * Your own copy of Media Unmade.Capabilities and conflict: Why Publicis bought Atomic 212Last week’s news that Australia’s biggest media agency Atomic 212 had been sold was not a huge surprise. The agency had been rumoured to be considering offers for some time.What was a little more surprising though was the buyer. Despite rumours that consultancy Accenture was in the frame, holding company Publicis Group emerged as the winner.It ran counter to the trend of holdcos in retreat and consolidating their number of agency brands.In today’s audio-led conversation, Atomic 212 chairman Barry O’Brien and Publicis Group’s ANZ CEO Michael Rebelo discuss with Tim Burrowes the rationale for the deal.O’Brien acknowledges the ups and downs of the agency’s journey, including when Atomic’s client, retail chain Dick Smith went into administration, leaving its agency potentially owing media companies millions of dollars.“When we first kicked off, Dick Smith went belly up and left $400-odd million of debt right around Australia.“As a young agency, we were left with a considerable amount of that. That was a pretty dark time.”The agency also faced a reputation crisis when Mumbrella revealed that former boss Jason Dooris had been cheating in award entries. Dooris eventually left the business. O’Brien says, dryly, “It was not a highlight.”Meanwhile, Rebelo explains the rationale for the acquisition at a time when many groups are trimming their rosters. Capabilities and client conflict are two of the factors. When he built a three year plan for his group in 2023, “acquisition of a media agency like Atomic was literally one of our top strategic priorities,” reveals Rebelo.“What we were looking at with Atomic was how can we supercharge what we've already got? What we like to curate and cultivate in the group are specialized weapons in terms of the agencies in how they can help our clients solve their marketing problems. And Atomic represented an independent agency with really sophisticated capabilities.”Rebelo, insists that unlike previous acquisition Match, which is these days folded in to Spark Foundry, Atomic will remain as its own brand. “Conflict and managing conflict is still a big part of the market and the industry. So we are fortunate to have those independent brands that can manage different agencies across the verticals. Having another media brand to take on and help us manage that is certainly a benefit to this.”Time to leave you to your Monday. Today’s podcast was edited by Abe’s Audio.We’ll be back with more soon.Toodlepip…Tim BurrowesPublisher - [email protected] This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.unmade.media/subscribe
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  • Live from Compass Melbourne: Can adland change for women?; get ready for rage; and 'dumb' cash giveaways in radio
    Welcome to an audio-led edition of Unmade, taking in the Melbourne edition of Compass. And below, a down day on the Unmade Index.You should be at next year’s Compass. If you’ve been thinking about upgrading to an Unmade membership, this is the day to make a decision. If you sign up for an annual membership before the end of today you’ll get a $50 gift voucher.Your membership includes:* A complimentary ticket to all of Unmade’s events, including HumAIn, REmade, Unlock, and Compass, all returning in 2025.* Member-only content and our paywalled archives;* Your own copy of Media Unmade.‘We should be prepared for rage’ - Compass Melbourne on the rise of activismThe final stop on Unmade’s six-state Compass tour of Australia was Victoria, for a feisty conversation around the state of the industry, the Campaign Brief imbroglio and the state of the Melbourne radio wars.Today’s podcast features highlights. The speakers were Gold’s breakfast host Christian O'Connell, NAB’s CMO Thomas Dobson, CHEP’s executive strategy director Nomfundo Msomi, and Kimberlee Wells, CEO of TBWA.As has been the case in several states, the topic of Campaign Brief’s all-male coverage of the creative industry was nominated as the industry’s worst moment of the year. Wells told the audience: “The industry's biggest loss, controversial, I know, is Campaign Brief.”In October the publication experienced a fierce backlash after publishing a review on Australia and New Zealand’s top creative talent featuring 20 men and no women. It triggered a debate about the masthead’s behaviour over many years.Many agency groups took the decision to stop submitting their work for publication on the Campaign Brief blog. The controversy appears to have given momentum to the local operation of Little Black Book to fill some of the void.Wells, also a board member of industry association the Advertising Council, went on: “And it is not because of the changes that are being made, but I think there's a lot of questions being asked at the moment around what becomes the central dialogue for creativity in the industry.“And it's something that I know we're certainly grappling with at the Ad Council. So there are a lot of changes that needed to be made, but we need to make sure as a result of that, we're not actually losing creativity and a space for creativity to be elevated and to be celebrated across the board.”Msomi added: “As far as our biggest gain, it's the opportunity to have difficult conversations as an industry. So we've been talking about representation and opportunities for women, minorities, people from different ethnic groups, diversity within our industry.“I'm really hoping that after we go away for the two mandatory weeks where Australia shuts down, that we come back with that same fervor in place.“This is an opportunity. It's uncomfortable for some people, and for others, it is exhausting. We've gained the chance to really talk and to be vulnerable if we want to save the industry.“We've lost, and we continue to lose women. Let's acknowledge that it's happening under our watch. But more than just losing women, I think we're losing the trust of women as an industry to make change.”On the topic of advertising creativity, Melbourne was another edition of Compass where panellists nominated Telstra’s work this year as a plus for the industry. Msomi told the room: “I'm going to take the biggest win as being Telstra. I think there's a lot of lessons in that for all of us around the importance of brand, the importance of craft the importance of getting back to creativity - and the importance of not listening to everyone in your organization who wants to have a point of view on the work, but actually backing your own gut.”Melbourne has also been home to the biggest radio story of the year - ARN Media’s decision to network the Sydney-based The Kyle & Jackie O Show into the city on Kiis. While maintaining its lead in Sydney, the show has failed to find an audience in Melbourne.ARN stablemate O’Connell, whose own show on Gold has regularly topped the FM ratings, argued that while the battle has been great for drawing attention to radio, some stations have been wasting money on short term promotions rather than focusing on the quality of their shows. He said: “It's just really interesting - people are talking about it. Breakfast radio still matters to people which I think is really great for my industry.“The loss for the industry is how a lot of the other shows I go up against are chucking so much money at buying listeners - big, noisy cash giveaways. I understand why they do that; I've never done that - I think it's about deepening the connection you have with the audience. I think it's transactional and I think actually it's hurting radio.“The big noisy cash giveaways to me is dumb, moronic radio.”The panel also tackled the rise of retail media (Dobson was sceptical); rebuilding business confidence in a tough economy, the next wave of agency consolidations, and predictions of a rise in consumer activism.In prescient comments which she made before the assassination of United Healthcare CEO Brian Thomson in New York, Msomi warned: “I think we should be prepared for rage. I think the bubbling under, and now bubbling over, of the real palpable rage that we feel in our industry and in our society, I think it's not going to die down.“With anger comes activism, and with activism comes change.“There's this misnomer that people who are activists and people who are trying to change things are always upset and that their anger is not productive. But that's how you get International Women's Day, that's how you get Black History Month, from organizing and from actioning that rage into something more.”* The next stop for Unmade’s Compass roadshow is Auckland on Tuesday February 18, at NZME’s iHeart Lounge on Graham Street. Tickets are on sale now.How Unmade’s 2024 Compass tour has unfolded:Unmade Index sinks The Unmade Index retreated by 0.48% yesterday, to land on 431.7 points.Among the worst performers was Nine’s real estate platform Domain, which lost 1.2% yesterday. Domain’s market capitalisation has sagged by 17% since the ousting of CEO Jason Pellegrino two months agoAudio stocks Southern Cross Austereo and ARN Media both went backwards yesterday, by 0.9% and 0.7% respectively.Ooh Media beat the wider trend, rising by 1.7%Time to leave you to your Thursday.Today’s podcast was edited by Abe’s Audio. We’ll be back with more tomorrow.Have a great day.Toodlepip…Tim BurrowesPublisher - [email protected] This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.unmade.media/subscribe
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  • StW: Hugh Marks and Matt Stanton firm up for ABC and Nine; Plus our 2024 verdict, and 2025 predictions
    Welcome to an audio-led edition of Unmade. Today: Hugh Marks firms up for the ABC as Matt Stanton makes an inside run on Nine; Plus, what we learned this year, and what we’re expecting in 2025.This is the perfect time to upgrade your Unmade membership* A complimentary ticket to all of Unmade’s events, including HumAIn, REmade, Unlock, and Compass, all returning in 2025;* Members-only content and our paywalled archives;* Your own copy of Media Unmade.Do it before the end of next week, and we’ll give you a $50 gift voucher of your choice too. Upgrade today.Hugh Marks for the ABC?; Matt Stanton tightens grip on Nine; James Manning returns; and our 2025 predictionsThe Australian seems confident Hugh Marks is about to be named managing director of the ABC. As its Media Diary column puts it today: “Here’s one rumour that just won’t go away, and we reckon it’s true: Hugh Marks will be the new managing director of the ABC. As far as media rumours go, we’re almost certain it’s rolled, gold, wheat.”Marks was a transformational boss for Nine, overseeing its evolution from a TV network to Australia’s largest media company via the takeover of Fairfax Media. In the podcast we discuss whether there’s room in the ABC management for both Kim Williams as chair and Marks as MD.Also today: we discuss acting Nine CEO Matt Stanton’s tightening grip on the role, and the return of former Mediaweek owner James Manning to media after a long absence of 17 days.We look back on a year of AI ubiquity and a media downturn. And in our predictions we talk about taming the platforms, the return of jingles, and the rise of AI agents.Today’s episode features Tim Burrowes, Abe Udy and Cat McGinnEditing was courtesy of Abe’s Audio, the people to talk to about voiceovers, sound design, and podcast production. The cicadas were not their fault.Time to leave you to start your week. We’ll be back with more tomorrow.Toodlepip…Tim BurrowesPublisher - [email protected] This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit www.unmade.media/subscribe
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