Walking This Way

This week, Lise is joined by Sally Wilkinson, an accidental entrepreneur, Ironman finisher, author and founder of Shit to Shiny, who has spent nearly a decade sharing her story of depression, heavy drinking, bankruptcy and diet culture burnout with hundreds of thousands of women online. It's a properly raw, unfiltered conversation about shame, motherhood, addiction to alcohol and food, and what it actually takes to climb out of a hole rather than just fall into one, which feels especially timely for any woman in midlife still carrying decades of dieting baggage and quiet exhaustion.
In this episode, join Lise and discover:
Why Sally's "accidental" business began with a bottle and a half of wine most nights, and how a soggy dishcloth in the kitchen became her rock bottom moment
The story behind booking an Ironman with zero triathlon experience, four days after being declared bankrupt in Blackpool, and crossing the finish line at 17 hours 12 minutes
Why Sally believes "life gets in the way" is one of the most damaging excuses women make, and what she says instead
The real difference between "ownership" and "awareness" that reshaped the whole approach behind her book, Shit to Shiny
Why 800 women doing a simple 20-minute daily walking challenge, including one who'd never seen a sunrise at 55, taught Sally more about lasting change than any diet ever did
Quote of the episode
"Anybody can fall into a hole, anybody. Even the most perfect person can fall, but nobody can fall out of the hole. You've got to climb out yourself." - Sally Wilkinson
Useful links
Sally's website: https://thesallywilkinson.com/
Sally on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thesallywilkinson/
Sally's book, Shit to Shiny: https://ebury.lnk.to/thesh-ttoshinymethod
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Dogs at her heels and planes crossing overhead, Lise sets off on the first Out and About of the new season and, with her 50th birthday just days away, she uses the walk to properly introduce, or reintroduce, herself: the car crash at seven, boarding school at eight, and the years that followed when a stubborn refusal to say no led her onto a Muay Thai retreat in Thailand and, unexpectedly, into a whole new relationship with movement.
This is Lise at her most open, tracing the line from that first triathlon at Hever Castle through open water swimming lessons, a gruelling 100k Trailwalker with her best friend Robin, and the slow, imperfect work of learning to prioritise herself. It's a conversation about midlife travel, walking adventure and the everyday power of choosing movement, told with all the honesty you've come to expect from Walking This Way.
Join Lise and discover...
Why turning 50 felt like the right moment to share her full backstory
How a chance invitation to a Thailand retreat changed the course of her life
The truth behind her first triathlon, old ladies' breaststroke and all
What training for a 100k walk with her best friend Robin really taught her
Why she believes movement should always be about joy, never punishment
Quote of the episode
"Finding fitness changed my life."
Here's how to get in touch...
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This week, Lise is joined by Nell McAndrew, model, TV presenter and 90s household name turned marathon runner, fitness DVD star and tireless charity fundraiser. But this isn't a conversation about being brilliant at running. It's about what happens when we stop thinking of exercise as punishment or weight loss and start thinking about what movement actually gives us: confidence, headspace, friendship and sanity.
 
In this episode, join Lise and discover:
How Nell ran her marathon personal best of 2 hours 54 minutes after having her first child, and what changed in her mindset to get her there
Why Nell has swapped pounding pavements for slower, more intentional movement, including a programme built around moving well rather than moving fast
The visualisation trick Nell has used before every race, including dreaming she'd already run the marathon in her sleep
The launch of What's Your Move, the new movement Nell and Lise are starting together to get more women moving in whatever way suits them
Why turning up to volunteer at Parkrun, rather than run it, can be the easiest way to ease yourself in and lose the fear
The message Paula Radcliffe sent about Nell, and why it left her lost for words
Quote of the episode
"I always just used to visualise myself getting to the finish line, crossing the finish line and putting my arms in the air." — Nell McAndrew
Useful links
Follow Nell on Instagram: @nelliemcfitness
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It's 32 degrees in southwest London and Lise's trying to keep cool for the Season One finale of Walking This Way: Out and about.
Reflecting on a recent trip to Royal Ascot, a very early start for a summer solstice swim, and a season of incredible conversations, Lise gets set for a summer break and looks ahead to what's coming up in Season Two from September.
Join Lise and discover...
What happened at Royal Ascot, on the train home, and during a 2.45am dawn dip in Hove for the summer solstice
A look back at some of the guests and conversations from this season
What's coming up when the podcast returns in September
Why hitting the follow button now means you won't miss the new season
With thanks to

As Seasone One of Walking This Way draws to a close, I'd like to thank my incredible guests over the course of the season, including the WomenKind Collective, Vicki Anstey, Helen Hopkins, Julia and the Ramble Worldwide team, Lorraine Candy, Dr Helen Wall, Sinead Laffan, Claire Hattrick, Lyndsey Gymer, Clare Capper, Adrienne, Tallulah Bamford, Katrina Hassan, Robyn Phillips and Vanessa McDaid. What an incredible collection of women and what amazing conversations. Go back and listen again!
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This week, Lise is joined by Jinty Sheerin and Lou Hockings-Thompson, founders of The Womenkind Collective, podcast hosts, menopause campaigners and co-authors of a forthcoming book on gender bias in healthcare. What began as two lifelong friends chatting over FaceTime during lockdown has grown into a thriving community helping thousands of women navigate midlife, menopause, health, identity and everything in between.
This conversation goes far beyond hot flushes and HRT. Together, they explore the hidden ways women are taught to minimise their pain, the shocking reality of gender bias in healthcare and why speaking openly about our experiences matters more than ever.
In this episode, join Lise and discover:
 How two hairdresser friends turned lockdown conversations into the hugely successful Womenkind Collective 
 Why women can wait years longer for diagnosis and treatment, including the average eight-year wait for endometriosis diagnosis 
 Why so many women mistake perimenopause symptoms for serious illness, including dementia, anxiety disorders and chronic health conditions 
 The concept of internalised misogyny and how it can influence healthcare experiences, even among women themselves 
 Honest reflections on anxiety, exhaustion, body changes, vaginal health and the shame many women carry silently through midlife 
Quote of the episode
"I've felt shame at the time, but now I think I celebrate it as a post-menopausal woman."
– Jinty Sheerin
Useful links
 The Womenkind Collective Spill The Tea Podcast 
 Instagram: The Womankind Collective 
Tackling Gender Bias in the Healthcare System: What Patient Stories Teach Us About Implementing Systemic Change by Jinty Sheerin and Lou Hockings-Thompson: Pre-order now
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