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Calling Operator with Laura Nicol

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Calling Operator with Laura Nicol
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  • Calling Operator with Laura Nicol

    Ep 57. Leading Across Different Stages & Contexts—Laura Warden

    08/12/2025 | 55 mins.
    After 19 conversations with some of the sharpest operators around, I’m closing the year** with someone who rewired how I think about building process: Laura Warden. 
    Your job as an operator is to make things work. So you do. You patch. You duct-tape. You make something 10% better, then 15%, then 20%. Over time, you get excellent at optimising a system that (maybe) shouldn’t exist in the first place. Laura brought me back to the idea of constructing or reconstructing from first principles: “If you could build this optimally from day one, would it look like this?”
    She’s operated across different scales and contexts—running recruitment and talent at Hays, managing ~500 people at Google, and now supporting dozens of companies as Head of Operations at Folklore Ventures.
    We touch on her journey and:
    How dyslexia shaped her superpowers
    Scaling hurdles: moving too fast without process, founder span-of-control failure, and insufficient communication
    Why leadership teams need to feel visible (and Google’s multi-modal comms example)
    The management triangle: Empathy + Business outcomes + Clear direction
    Why your job isn’t to be the hero—it’s to build an environment where heroes can emerge
    Your network as an external brain (and why it needs to be small and value-driven)
    Rising above the weeds: asking, “What have I missed? What’s going to derail this or make it less impactful?”
    Hiring observations: companies hiring a generalist operator first, then building specialist teams around them
    Laura's motto: "Sh*t happens. Accept it. Then figure out how you pick yourself, your team, and the organisation up from that.
    **P.S. Catch my solo episode, "What the Year Taught Me", on December 23, before we tuck into the cauli' cheese and Christmas cheer.
    Mentioned in this episode:
    Teresa Lilly
    Savannah Black
    Dianne Ward
    Nicole Hopkins
    Alister Coleman
    Rochelle Ritchie
    Sundar Pichai
    Romy Bundy
    Naomi Browne

    Guest ideas?
    Do you have an operator on speed dial who could be perfect for the show? Please share your suggestions with me via LinkedIn.

    A note from your host, Laura:
    My goal for Calling Operator is to open-source stories from startup operators across various functional areas and learn how they excel at building and scaling companies. As a Chief of Staff, I often find myself in (virtual) rooms with people facing similar challenges and reinventing the wheel. I want this podcast to open a line for operators across Australia and New Zealand to learn from fellow operators. Each episode shares personal stories, the execution behind big ideas, career-defining moments, successes, failures, and lessons.

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    Ep 56. The Multi-Domain Operator with Kai Crow

    24/11/2025 | 56 mins.
    Every great founder has a small Avengers team turning vision into operational reality. This episode shines a light on someone running marketing, customer and revenue operations while acting as the CEO’s trusted right-hand.
    Inside:
    15+ years' CRM, ops, and scaling insights from a multi-functional perspective—from Sonar6 (acquired by Cornerstone), AskNicely, Plexure (formerly VMob) and Joyous
    Leaving memorable marks that show character and care
    Balancing startup freedom with enterprise rigour as Ask Nicely’s first employee
    Why Joyous turned off the tap on traditional marketing—and what broke
    Knowing when to keep systems simple vs. adding complexity
    The CEO partnership model that makes Ruby (Joyous' CEO) say: “I wouldn’t be here without him”
    When to leverage AI and when to stay firmly human
    Spotting whether you’re building or maintaining, and when you’ve outgrown your role

    Guest ideas?
    Do you have an operator on speed dial who could be perfect for the show? Please share your suggestions with me via LinkedIn.

    A note from your host, Laura:
    My goal for Calling Operator is to open-source stories from startup operators across various functional areas and learn how they excel at building and scaling companies. As a Chief of Staff, I often find myself in (virtual) rooms with people facing similar challenges and reinventing the wheel. I want this podcast to open a line for operators across Australia and New Zealand to learn from fellow operators. Each episode shares personal stories, the execution behind big ideas, career-defining moments, successes, failures, and lessons.

    Never miss an episode:
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    Ep 55. Anna Prell on Building Forage, Being Acquired and Building Again

    06/10/2025 | 51 mins.
    Laura Nicol dials into Anna Prell, VP Operations at Ivo.
    Anna reminds us why being an operator is a) so damn exciting and b) the ultimate leadership testing ground: 
    "In a startup, you can be your own version of a founder. You’re the founder of whatever it is you’re in charge of. You keep testing, learning, and scaling until it works." 
    Inside this conversation:
    Moving to the US in 2020—and operating inside ANZ companies state-side
    Shifting from Chief of Staff to leading a function (Ops > Customer Success)
    Learning how to manage people
    EAB acquiring Forage—Anna’s role in the story
    Finding a home in EAB post-acquisition
    The operator-founder partnership. Pure MAGIC
    Building again at Ivo as VP Ops
    How she found the “right fit”
    Building the infrastructure that helps teams scale
    Want to connect with Anna? Find her on LinkedIn.
    Also mentioned:
    Olga Eippert
    Min-Kyu Jung
    Jacob Duligall
    Amy Glancey
    Clara Ma
    Alicia Wells
    Pre-interview chats:
    Katie Noonan (Listen to Katie's Calling Operator episode)
    Tom Brunskill

    Guest ideas?
    Do you have an operator on speed dial who could be perfect for the show? Please share your suggestions with me via LinkedIn.

    A note from your host, Laura:
    My goal for Calling Operator is to open-source stories from startup operators across various functional areas and learn how they excel at building and scaling companies. As a Chief of Staff, I often find myself in (virtual) rooms with people facing similar challenges and reinventing the wheel. I want this podcast to open a line for operators across Australia and New Zealand to learn from fellow operators. Each episode shares personal stories, the execution behind big ideas, career-defining moments, successes, failures, and lessons.

    Never miss an episode:
    Subscribe on your favourite platform:
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    (Other) CallingOperator.com
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    Ep 54. Betting On People with Mahesh Muralidhar

    22/09/2025 | 1h 11 mins.
    Laura Nicol dials into Mahesh Muralidhar.
    From day one, Mahesh has been obsessed with making a difference. He was early in Sydney’s startup scene in the 2010s post-MBA—first chasing his own idea, then finding impact (and peace) in helping others build.
    What followed? A career that reads like three lifetimes in one.
    Inside:
    The romantic, messy-beautiful beginnings of Sydney’s startup scene.
    That nagging fear you’ve “missed the boat” in tech. Spoiler: the boat’s still boarding.
    The through-line of his career: founder > operator > investor > political candidate.
    Building customer intuition and products people love.
    Betting on people. Building trust. Understanding incentives. Getting obsessed with winning.
    Spotting great talent—and coaching them like a pro sports manager.
    Mahesh's founder story at Ureferjobs (a job referral marketplace)—why it didn’t land and the fateful “choosing Canva” moment.
    Operating inside early Canva, Airtasker, and Simply Wall St (from Head of People Ops to VP to COO).
    Phase One: why he’s convinced New Zealand founders can build world-changing companies with the right “been there, done that” support.
    The current chapter: “I want to make New Zealand a significantly happier place".
    Also mentioned:
    Read Mahesh's Substack
    David Hearnden
    Alexey Mitko
    Bec Jenkins
    Yani Hornilla Donato
    Mick Liubinskas (Pollenizer)
    Phil Morle (Pollenizer)
    Tim Fung
    Al Bentley
    Emer McCann
    Vincent Wei
    Mark Macleod-Smith
    Elise Peate
    Alexander Fala
    Melanie Perkins
    Cliff Obrecht

    Guest ideas?
    Do you have an operator on speed dial who could be perfect for the show? Please share your suggestions with me via LinkedIn.

    A note from your host, Laura:
    My goal for Calling Operator is to open-source stories from startup operators across various functional areas and learn how they excel at building and scaling companies. As a Chief of Staff, I often find myself in (virtual) rooms with people facing similar challenges and reinventing the wheel. I want this podcast to open a line for operators across Australia and New Zealand to learn from fellow operators. Each episode shares personal stories, the execution behind big ideas, career-defining moments, successes, failures, and lessons.

    Never miss an episode:
    Subscribe on your favourite platform:
    Spotify
    Apple Podcasts
    (Other) CallingOperator.com
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    Ep 53. Savannah Black on Range, Hypergrowth & ADHD

    08/09/2025 | 1h 2 mins.
    Laura Nicol dials into Savannah Black.
    For Savannah, being a startup operator is about making the company work in the real world. All the forward planning, mission, and vision stuff is important. That’s the on-paper part. But being an operator is about making it actually work. You can see it in action at Crypto Tax Calculator: four roles, three promotions, each adding new layers of context. Today, she’s Chief of Staff to CEO Shane Brunette at Crypto Tax Calculator.
    We get into:
    Savannah's late ADHD diagnosis
    Working with energy management cycles, hyperfocus windows and stimulation requirements
    What broke (and what didn’t) during Crypto Tax Calculator's hypergrowth from 20 to 60 people
    The Maker vs Manager schedule that protects deep work (remote-first culture)
    Why chaos isn't something we need to fix: "It's where innovation comes from"
    "Narrate everything": Learning how to avoid communication breakdowns at scale
    Her prioritisation stack: "[Eisenhower Matrix] I will ignore what's urgent till the cows come home"
    Also mentioned:
    Michael Stocks
    Shane Brunette
    Beth Mackinnon
    Sophie Gerber
    Crypto Tax Calculator
    Range

    Guest ideas?
    Do you have an operator on speed dial who could be perfect for the show? Please share your suggestions with me via LinkedIn.

    A note from your host, Laura:
    My goal for Calling Operator is to open-source stories from startup operators across various functional areas and learn how they excel at building and scaling companies. As a Chief of Staff, I often find myself in (virtual) rooms with people facing similar challenges and reinventing the wheel. I want this podcast to open a line for operators across Australia and New Zealand to learn from fellow operators. Each episode shares personal stories, the execution behind big ideas, career-defining moments, successes, failures, and lessons.

    Never miss an episode:
    Subscribe on your favourite platform:
    Spotify
    Apple Podcasts
    (Other) CallingOperator.com

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About Calling Operator with Laura Nicol

Join Laura Nicol (your host) as she dials into the stories of startup operators in the trenches of building and scaling companies. Together, we master the art of ‘building the plane while flying it', drawing on insights from leaders and rising stars at companies like Tracksuit, Canva, Culture Amp, Atlassian, me&u, Airwallex, Eucalyptus, and more. Laura's day job is Chief of Staff to Maxine Minter﹢Co Ventures—all views shared on this podcast are her own.
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