
Profit Over Revenue: The Scaling Reality Most Founders Ignore with Tommy Mello
14/1/2026 | 53 mins.
Revenue looks impressive. Profit is what keeps you in the game. If your business only runs when you are in the building, you are not scaling, you are surviving. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Tommy Mello, CEO of A1 Garage Door Service, a home service operator who has scaled to 700 employees across 20 states and is pushing toward $220M in revenue. Tommy breaks down the real difference between chasing growth and building a profitable company with systems, leadership, and the right people in the right seats. You will learn why profit beats revenue, how to stop being the bottleneck, and what it actually takes to scale through delegation and incentives that keep top talent aligned. This is for entrepreneurs and operators who want a business that performs consistently, builds real culture, and grows without burning out the founder. If you are serious about building a company that lasts, this conversation is for you Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (03:42) The Business Partner Breakup That Changed Everything (08:33) The 3 Biggest Mistakes Tommy Made Scaling to $220M (15:38) The Mindset It Takes To Actually Build Something (19:47) Why Tommy Lived In An 800 sq ft Apartment While Owning 7 Houses (28:10) Why Selling Is The Most Important Skill For Founders (32:14) Systems: The Only Thing That Let Tommy Scale Past Himself (38:26) Why Your Net Worth Is Your Network (And How To Build It) (44:56) Be Careful Who You Let Train You (48:19) The 3 Things Tommy Did To Build Unbreakable Culture Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755 Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/ Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : https://7q.ai/waitlist Join the 7th Level Sales Team: https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 Connect with Tommy Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/officialtommymello/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/tommy.mello1/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@officialtommymello Personal Website: https://www.tommymello.com/ Business Website: https://a1garage.com/

Why Most People Never Escape Average with Michael Bernoff
08/1/2026 | 43 mins.
Most people believe that getting better skills, habits, or information is what leads to growth, but that belief is exactly why so many stay stuck at average. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Michael Bernoff, bestselling author of Average Sucks and an expert in human behavior, communication, and influence.Michael breaks down why identity and language, not effort, are what drive long-term results, how internal mental frames quietly control decisions, and why people often live the life they have instead of the life they want. This conversation explores how certainty is created, why congruence matters more than tactics, and how learning to reframe your thinking changes outcomes in business, leadership, relationships, and life.If you want to stop hovering below your potential and start operating at your next level, this episode will fundamentally change how you see yourself and how others respond to you. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (01:22) Why Most People Stay Stuck At "Almost" (03:29) Identity vs. Wanting More (05:02) Congruence: Why Skill Without Identity Fails (08:01) Influence Starts With How You See Yourself (12:30) Frames, Language, and Decision-Making (16:43) Certainty, Emotion, and Human Behavior (30:19) Reframing Reality to Create Better Outcomes Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755 Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/ Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : https://7q.ai/waitlist Join the 7th Level Sales Team: https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52 Listen to the Next Level Podcast Apple: https://podcasts.apple.com/si/podcast/next-level-podcast-with-jeremy-miner/id1534365100 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2kNDyUR7fz9SqBr9iGwfwV Connect with Michael Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/michael_bernoff/?hl=en Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/michaelbernoff/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/user/bernoff Website: https://michaelbernoff.com/

Success Requires Endurance Most People Don't Have with David Price | EP 398
01/1/2026 | 37 mins.
Most people don't fail because they aren't capable. They fail because they quit when pressure shows up. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with David Price, founder of The Price Group IMO, who overcame addiction and homelessness to build a tech-forward insurance organization that has generated over $60 million in production by helping agents build profitable, remote businesses through better conversations and stronger thinking. By the end of this episode, you'll understand how to raise your pain tolerance, shortcut growth through mentorship, and apply sales psychology to execute consistently when others break under pressure. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (02:58) From Addiction to Ownership (11:52) Why Identity Must Change Before Results (17:15) Selling Insurance Without High Pressure Scripts (23:05) Emotionally connecting with prospects (28:10) Blind Faith, Momentum, and Becoming the Person First (30:29) Rapid Fire Questions Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755 Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/ Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : https://7q.ai/waitlist Join the 7th Level Sales Team: https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with David Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/davidpriceofficial/ Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@DavidPriceOfficial Tik Tok: https://www.tiktok.com/@davidpriceofficial Website:https://www.thepricegroupimo.com/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DavidPriceOfficial/ We Are Insurance Agents is a Skool community where insurance agents get daily training, real scripts, and practical resources to grow their business Join free for 7 days: skool.com/insurance Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

How Communication Drives Profit in the Trades with Jacob Reese | EP 397
17/12/2025 | 35 mins.
Most businesses get trapped competing on price because they never learn how to create value. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner sits down with Jacob Reese, Vice President of Standard Plumbing Supply, one of the largest family-owned wholesale distributors in the Western United States. Built over three generations. Jeremy and Jacob talk about why communication, not pricing, determines who wins, how contractors get stuck in price-based thinking, and what shifts when you move to results-based selling. They explore how influence applies to sales, leadership, operations, and decision-making, why the best ideas often lose to the best-communicated ones, and how systems like Vendor Managed Inventory help customers buy back time and increase profit. Whether you sell, lead, or run a business, this conversation shows how creating value, not competing harder, is what actually drives growth. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (03:03) Why Everyone Needs to Learn Sales and Persuasion (05:45) Stewardship, Legacy, and Long-Term Thinking (08:30) The Customer Is the Boss Philosophy (11:45) Vendor Managed Inventory and Buying Back Time (17:10) Creation vs Competition in Business (22:15) Price vs Results Based Thinking (29:05) Communication, Influence, and Objection Prevention Connect with Jacob Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/jacobnreese Website:https://www.standardplumbing.com Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755 Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/ Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : https://7q.ai/waitlist Join the 7th Level Sales Team: https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52

The Psychology of Influence & How To Win Every Sale with René Rodriguez
10/12/2025 | 46 mins.
Many salespeople lose the deal long before they speak, because the brain decides whether to trust you in seconds. In this episode of The Next Level Podcast, Jeremy Miner talks with René Rodriguez, bestselling author, keynote speaker, and expert in applying behavioral neuroscience to real-world sales situations. René explains why 93% of communication happens before the words leave your mouth, how tonality and body language trigger either safety or resistance in the brain, and how elite salespeople use framing, storytelling, and emotional tie-downs to guide a prospect's thinking without pressure. If you want to master human behavior, prevent objections before they happen, and sell the way the brain naturally buys, this conversation covers it all. Chapters: (00:00) Introduction (02:10) René's Background in Neuroscience and Selling Change (07:26) How the Brain Makes Decisions (and Why Buyers Resist Change) (11:00) Tonality, Threat Detection, and the 93% Rule (14:52) Body Language, Congruency, and Subconscious Cues (20:11) How Elite Salespeople Prevent Objections (Not Handle Them) (26:12) Storytelling, Framing, and the Tie-Down Formula (33:58) Using Hand Gestures, Tone, and Presence to Increase Trust Connect with René Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/learnwithrene/ Website: https://www.meetrene.com/ Amplify Your Influence Book: https://www.amplifybook.com Got a question about sales, persuasion, or objection handling? Text me directly: +1-480-481-6755 Join the 7th Level University: https://whop.com/discover/7thlevel/ Join the waitlist for the Ask Jeremy 7q.AI : https://7q.ai/waitlist Join the 7th Level Sales Team: https://hardlyselling.hirebus-careers.com/closer-7th-level The exact NEPQ script I used to earn $2.4M/year as a W-2 sales rep: https://nepqtraining.com/smv-yt-splt-opt-org Prefer to understand the psychology behind NEPQ first? Grab The New Model of Selling: Selling to an Unsellable Generation on Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1636980112 Book a call with my team: https://7thlevelhq.com/book-demo/ Connect with Jeremy Miner YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@jeremeyminer Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/jeremyleeminer/ LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremyleeminer/ Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/jeremy.miner.52



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