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In this episode of the Greenpill Podcast, Kevin Owocki sits down with Shaw, founder of ElizaOS, to talk about AI agents, open source culture, and what it means to build meaningful systems in an age of automation.
Shaw reflects on shipping ElizaOS through the bear market, lessons from agent-native games, navigating hype cycles, and why software is becoming cheaper while agency, ownership, and coordination matter more than ever.
They explore AI agents as collaborators, the future of work, crypto culture, abundance networks, and why communities not speculation should define what comes next.
A candid conversation about AI, culture, and building with purpose.
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https://x.com/owocki
https://x.com/shawmakesmagic
Some of the materials you may be interested in checking out.
Join EthBoulder and see Shaw speak February 14, 2026: https://luma.com/o9qpeepn 
Guest Twitter/X: https://x.com/shawmakesmagic
Guest Farcaster: https://farcaster.xyz/shawmakesmagic
Guest Website: https://elizaos.ai
ElizaOS GitHub: https://github.com/elizaOS/eliza
ElizaOS Docs: https://docs.elizaos.ai
ElizaOS on X: https://x.com/elizaos
The Great Online Game (Packy McCormick): https://www.notboring.co/p/the-great-online-game
The Meritverse (M3): https://paragraph.com/@m3org/the-meritverse
Context Graphs (Foundation Capital): https://foundationcapital.com/context-graphs-ais-trillion-dollar-opportunity/
Clank Tank (M3): https://paragraph.com/@m3org/clank-tank
 
⏱️ Timestamps 
00:00 – Intro & why Shaw's work matters
01:10 – Catching up after the bear market
03:00 – How Shaw's perspective on AI has changed
05:10 – From Eliza v1 to ElizaOS
07:20 – Shipping fast & throwing code away
09:30 – AI agents as autonomous actors
12:00 – Agent-native games as experimentation spaces
15:10 – Open source, forks & losing mindshare
18:00 – Hype cycles, narratives & incentives
21:00 – Why "code is getting cheap"
24:00 – Rewriting systems & technical tradeoffs
27:00 – What AI agents still can't do
30:00 – Builder culture vs speculation culture
33:00 – Centralized platforms & getting banned
36:00 – Decentralized social: what's missing
39:00 – Are AI agents taking jobs?
41:30 – Meaning, agency & human creativity
44:00 – Ownership, UBI & coordination problems
46:30 – Abundance networks & positive-sum systems
49:00 – What Shaw wants to build next
51:00 – Closing thoughts

New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐
In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi is joined by Patricia Parkinson and Benjamin Life, long-time community builders working on the OpenCivics Project, to explore how Network Nations can evolve from a conceptual framework into a real political movement.
Together, they unpack what it takes to move from ideas to action: building a shared theory of change, nurturing a scenius before formal institutions, balancing commons-based governance with movement leadership, and avoiding the traps of co-optation, extraction, or techno-elitism.
The conversation dives into functional sovereignty, parallel societies, movement inclusivity beyond tech, progressive protocolization, and how Network Nations might grow as a pluralistic, polycentric movement capable of real-world impact.
A foundational episode on movement-building, legitimacy, and how communities can coordinate without losing their soul.
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🌐 networknations.network
🐦 @owocki @greenpillnet 
opencivics.co
omniharmonic.com 
patriciaparkinson.com
https://x.com/yaoeo
https://x.com/kosmicgardener
https://x.com/omniharmonic
⏱️ Timestamps 
00:00 – From concept to movement: why ideas aren't enough
01:20 – Introducing Patricia Parkinson & Benjamin Life (OpenCivics)
02:25 – Why Network Nations must become embodied in real life
04:15 – Theory of change & "parallel societies"
06:30 – Network Nations vs Network States
08:20 – Categories, scenes & movements (from idea to scenius)
10:15 – Shared culture vs shared markets
12:30 – Functional sovereignty as a unifying principle
14:25 – Vibes, aesthetics & kinship in movements
16:45 – Meta-politics vs politics
18:55 – Design criteria for healthy systems
20:50 – Territorial sovereignty & neo-colonial risks
22:55 – Who is this movement for?
26:30 – Scenius: collective genius & proximity
29:00 – Insiders, outsiders & beyonders
31:10 – Dual power & negotiating with institutions
33:15 – Forking the system (and re-merging)
35:25 – Making Network Nations inclusive beyond tech
37:45 – Web3 vs Occupy: lessons from past movements
40:05 – Centering the "why" before the tools
42:10 – Infrastructure for post-capitalist futures
44:05 – Commons governance & movement fragility
46:10 – Movements without charismatic leaders
48:15 – Progressive protocolization & anti-fragility
50:30 – Protocols as culture (Burning Man example)
52:10 – Network Nations Alliance & early constitutions
54:05 – Concrete ways OpenCivics supports the movement
55:30 – Pattern languages & civic infrastructure
57:30 – Calls, rhythms & shared artifacts
59:10 – How to get involved & closing thoughts

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In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, host Felix Beer is joined by Helena Rong, Assistant Professor at New York University Shanghai, to explore SeeDAO as a real-world case study of a proto Network Nation.
They unpack how SeeDAO evolved from a Web3 startup into a translocal, diasporic community rooted in Daoist philosophy, kinship, and the pursuit of a "good life."
The conversation dives into co-presence, emergence, non-coercive governance, social ledgers, on-chain identity, and how SeeDAO blends digital infrastructure with physical gathering from online town halls to rural pop-up communities in China.
A rich, grounded discussion on how culture, values, and practice not just tooling shape the future of Network Nations, and what bottom-up community governance can look like beyond the Western DAO paradigm.
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🌐 networknations.network
🐦 @owocki 
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https://x.com/felix_beer
https://x.com/helena__rong
https://seedao.xyz/
Helena's work on SeeDAO:
https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=5731428

⏱️ Timestamps 
00:00 – From theory to practice: proto Network Nations
01:10 – Introducing SeeDAO as a case study
02:19 – Digital policy for global nomads
03:20 – Welcoming Helena Rong
04:26 – Helena's research on SeeDAO
05:42 – SeeDAO as a Chinese-speaking DAO
08:00 – From startup to community
09:45 – COVID, isolation & diasporic connection
11:46 – What does a "good life" mean in SeeDAO?
12:30 – Daoist philosophy & Web3
13:40 – Co-presence as the foundation of community
14:55 – Emergence & non-governance as governance
16:23 – Wandering (xiaoyao) as freedom
18:09 – Culture vs tooling in Web3 communities
19:30 – Day-to-day practices inside SeeDAO
20:18 – On-chain onboarding & participation
22:32 – Reputation, contribution & governance tokens
24:38 – Blockchain as a social ledger
26:34 – Is SeeDAO a proto Network Nation?
28:31 – Translocality & offline gatherings
30:32 – Digital nomad week & rural revitalization
32:51 – DAO as scaffolding for real communities
34:48 – Instrumental vs value-driven governance
36:53 – Sovereignty, China & parallel worlds
39:02 – Network Nations alongside nation-states
41:21 – Digital nomads & rural China
43:41 – Co-presence across villagers, nomads & DAOs
45:52 – Integration, not exit
48:00 – Interoperability between communities
50:13 – Lessons from SeeDAO for Network Nations
52:13 – Helena's research & where to find her work
53:10 – Closing thoughts

New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐
In this episode of the VDAO × Greenpill Anti-Fragile Network States mini-series, host Kris Miller speaks with Danilo, a software engineer who left city life behind to rebuild his health, relationship with food, and sense of resilience through permaculture, natural building, and community living in Uruguay.
Danilo shares how a health crisis pushed him to rethink his lifestyle, why growing food changed everything, and how moving closer to nature reshaped his understanding of resilience.
They explore food autonomy, water catchment, natural house building, digital tools for land design, patience as a strategy, and why community is the most important layer of resilience.
A deeply human conversation about bridging technology and nature to build a regenerative, antifragile way of life.
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🌐 vdao.org
🐦 https://x.com/JoinVDAO
🐦 https://x.com/greenpillnet
 linktr.ee/danilo_da_rosa
⏱️ Timestamps 
00:00 – Cold open: city life, darkness & missing nature
00:59 – Danilo joins & his "why"
02:30 – Health crisis & rethinking food
03:55 – Farmers markets, seasons & nutrient-dense food
05:00 – Leaving the city for a small farm
06:45 – Technology, screens & losing connection with nature
08:05 – What resilience means on a human level
09:15 – Health challenges as antifragility
11:15 – COVID, gardens & food security
13:15 – Choosing land: early mistakes & lessons
15:00 – Advice: observe land for a full year
17:25 – Studying soil, biodiversity & local laws
18:10 – Using digital tools to assess land
19:35 – Making land-design tools free & accessible
22:00 – Water catchment & reading the land
25:55 – Rainwater systems, ponds & long-term planning
27:50 – Slow solutions & patience in permaculture
29:40 – Building a natural (cob) house
31:45 – Learning by building & skill-sharing
33:30 – Loneliness, then rediscovering community
35:45 – Mingas, workshops & social resilience
37:45 – Local materials & low-tech building
41:35 – Bridging tech skills with land stewardship
43:50 – Using software to support regeneration
45:50 – Food autonomy: annuals vs perennials
48:20 – Energy efficiency & working with nature
49:40 – One-square-meter gardens as a starting point
52:00 – Energy use, renewables & solar plans
53:15 – Advice for developers starting this journey
54:50 – Final thoughts & closing

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In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi is joined by Jessy Kate Schingler, co-founder of the Embassy Network, to explore how intentional communities and new jurisdictions can give Network Nations real-world grounding.
Jessy shares lessons from over a decade of building translocal co-living communities, explains why the Embassy Network thought of its spaces as "embassies to the future," and how identity, culture, and entanglement emerge without formal membership rules.
The conversation then turns to jurisdictional innovation, including Gelephu Mindfulness City in Bhutan, and how special administrative regions, charter cities, and regulatory sandboxes could act as physical anchor points for Network Nations.
A rich discussion on culture, identity, subsidiarity, functional sovereignty, and how digital communities might interface with states without losing their values.
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🌐 networknations.network
🐦 @owocki
 @greenpillnet 
https://x.com/yaoeo
https://x.com/jessykate

⏱️ Timestamps 
00:00 – Can Network Nations become political actors without land?
01:10 – Intentional communities vs new jurisdictions
02:25 – Introducing Jessy Kate Schingler (Embassy Network)
03:20 – What intentional communities look like today
04:45 – The origin of the Embassy Network
05:40 – "Embassies to the future" where the name came from
06:45 – Membership, curation & why formal rules failed
08:15 – Sister communities & translocal identity
09:30 – Cultural, financial & people-based entanglement
11:40 – Cultural transfusion as the strongest glue
13:00 – Financial support between community nodes
14:20 – Identity through shared people & movement
16:20 – Drift: experiments with shared currencies & mobility
18:05 – Private law vs public law in Network Nations
19:10 – Why jurisdictions matter for scaling
20:05 – Rise of new jurisdictions worldwide
21:50 – Introducing Gelephu Mindfulness City (Bhutan)
23:30 – Values, culture & mindful development
25:35 – Experimentation, subsidiarity & the "diamond strategy"
27:20 – Visas, access & digital-first services
29:35 – Jurisdictions as platforms for Network Nations
31:45 – New corporate forms & DAO-native structures
33:45 – Network state vs network nation approaches
36:05 – Polycentricity & layered governance
38:00 – Embassies as portals between cultures
40:15 – AI, credentials & future statutory innovation
42:40 – Regulatory equivalence & sandboxing
44:40 – Intentional communities vs territorial zones
46:40 – Dispute resolution as a legitimacy bridge
50:30 – Lessons from working with states
52:40 – Land policy, mutualism & functional sovereignty
54:50 – Where to follow Jessy Kate & closing thoughts