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• Network Nations Ep:4 Entanglement: Building Voluntary Interdependencies

  New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, hosts Primavera De Filippi explore the idea of entanglement the voluntary interdependencies that turn loose networks into cohesive, resilient communities. They're joined by Jon Hillis (Cabin / Neighborhood Village Project) and Timour Kosters (EdgeCity), two builders experimenting with new forms of communal life. Together they discuss how DAOs, pop-up cities, shared rituals, physical infrastructure, and collective work can create the deeper social ties needed for future network nations. If you're curious how civil society can organize beyond states and startups through kinship, cooperation, and shared purpose this conversation is foundational. 🌐 networknations.network 🌱 greenpill.network 🐦 @owocki  @timourxyz @JonathanHillis @greenpillnet  🌐 Timestamps 00:00 – Cold Start 01:02 – What are Network Nations? Communities as shared commons 02:20 – Theme of the episode: entanglement as voluntary interdependence 03:26 – Introducing guests: Jon Hillis (Cabin) & Timour Kosters (EdgeCity) Origins & Stories 05:08 – John's story: leaving Instacart to build a village in Texas 07:15 – The Cabin experiment and why the DAO eventually shut down 09:00 – Governance stalemate: misaligned token-holder incentives 10:39 – Timur's story: Zuzalu, EdgeCity & pop-up civic experiments 12:56 – Why pop-up villages unlock deeper, experimental governance Community, Infrastructure & Entanglement 14:55 – Community vs infrastructure: which comes first? 17:19 – Why communities deepen through building things together 19:15 – Doing as a means to the end: community itself 20:40 – Co-creation at EdgeCity: rituals, workshops, shared work Citizens vs Users 23:04 – The identity question: are members users, consumers, or citizens? 25:05 – Why financial incentives conflict with community values 27:26 – The tension between startups, DAOs & community networks 29:46 – Events create more value than the event business model The Commons & Institutional Dualities 31:29 – Government vs startups: opposite systems, opposite incentives 33:41 – Entanglement as an alternative to monitoring & sanctions 35:42 – Why scale changes everything in community coordination 38:04 – Social debt & reciprocity as natural entanglement Examples of Entanglement in Practice 40:01 – Why people volunteer without financial incentives 42:23 – Imagined communities: identity across thousands 44:31 – Social entanglement vs economic & structural entanglement Levels of Entanglement 46:38 – The four layers: social → cultural → economic → structural 48:35 – Why "forced entanglement" risks cult dynamics 50:55 – Healthy communities rely on voluntary exit 53:05 – Entanglement as a continuum: user → participant → citizen Future Mechanisms 54:58 – What future entanglement systems might look like 57:04 – Missing pieces: identity layers, governance, shared resources 59:02 – Why place is the strongest form of entanglement Closing 01:00:16 – Explaining entanglement to a 5-year-old: interdependence 01:01:42 – Final words from John & Timour

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• VDAO: Ep-1 The Next Supercycle — Joseph Lubin on Trustware, Network States & an Antifragile Future

  New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the VDAO x Greenpill mini-series, hosts Marc Ziade & Kris Miller talk with Joseph Lubin co-founder of Ethereum and founder of ConsenSys about the Next Supercycle and how decentralized trust can power a more antifragile, post-scarcity civilization. They explore how Trustware, AI, and network states are reshaping the foundations of society from financial systems to energy, data, and governance. Lubin also shares how ConsenSys, Linea, and decentralized protocols can help humanity transition toward resilient, self-sovereign systems that thrive through stress and change. 🎧 Learn more → greenpill.network 🐦  @owocki @greenpillnet https://x.com/0xkrisv https://x.com/ZiadeMarc https://x.com/joinvdao  https://x.com/ethereumJoseph  🌐 Timestamps 00:00 – Welcome to the VDAO x Greenpill mini-series: Antifragile Network States 01:00 – Introducing guest Joseph Lubin co-founder of Ethereum & founder of ConsenSys 02:20 – How Joseph discovered Bitcoin and the origins of Ethereum 04:00 – Early doubts about global finance and the rise of decentralized trust 06:00 – What is a Supercycle and how it defines global transitions 08:30 – The Fourth Turning: cyclical history and economic reset theory 10:40 – Why we're at the midpoint of the fourth turning a new system emerging 12:10 – From top-down control to decentralized horizontal coordination 14:30 – How decentralized trust enables a sturdier social fabric 16:00 – The end of scarcity and the rise of post-scarcity creativity 17:40 – Collapse as evolution: why breakdowns create progress 19:10 – The birth of Trustware replacing Big Tech with transparent coordination 21:00 – Software ate the world, now Trustware will heal it 22:40 – Ethereum as the foundation for global decentralized trust 25:00 – Trust as a new global commodity and economic layer 27:20 – AI vs decentralization why they must coexist 29:10 – The hybrid human–machine intelligence future 31:30 – Decentralized AI training and tokenized incentives 33:00 – Trustware beyond code: decentralizing physical infrastructure 35:00 – Building antifragile systems for food, energy, and housing 37:00 – Learning from nature: decentralization as evolution 38:20 – The meaning of antifragility in the context of network states 39:30 – What are Network States and how they evolve beyond nation-states 42:00 – The coming overlay of 200+ nation states with thousands of network states 43:40 – The economic potential of digital sovereign territories 45:00 – The rise of tokenized economies stablecoins, commodities, and local tokens 47:30 – Monetary diversity as financial biodiversity 49:00 – The Consensus Network State & Linea ecosystem 51:30 – DeCorporatizing infrastructure: crypto meets physical resilience 53:00 – The role of VDAO and Fifth World in building antifragile communities 54:30 – Why personal sovereignty matters in a digital world 56:00 – Decentralized social graphs and tokenized communities 57:30 – How AI agents will power new governance and coordination 59:10 – The energy bottleneck and the path toward abundance 01:01:00 – Revisiting the 2047 Ethereum Vision speech 01:03:00 – Prediction markets, futarchy, and decentralized governance 01:05:00 – The next decade for ConsenSys: token economies & infrastructure 01:07:00 – Ethereum's convergence: scaling and interoperability 01:09:00 – Network States, AI, and the next phase of collective intelligence 01:11:30 – Closing reflections: hybrid intelligence and antifragile coordination

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• Network Nations Ep:3- Commons, Mutualism & Entanglement: Building the Foundation of Network Nations

  New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 Hosted by Primavera De Filippi & Felix Beer, this episode of the Network Nations mini-series explores how commons, mutualism, and entanglement form the backbone of resilient, self-organizing communities. Joined by Sara Horowitz (founder of the Mutualist Society & Freelancers Union) and Michel Bauwens (founder of the P2P Foundation), they discuss how collective ownership, cooperative economies, and peer-to-peer networks can transform civil society into interconnected network nations. Together, they unpack the difference between commoning and mutualism, the importance of trust and solidarity, and how local cooperation can scale into a global fabric of shared governance. 🎧 Learn more → networknations.network 🌐 greenpill.network Mutualistsociety.net  https://p2pfoundation.net/  https://4thgenerationcivilization.substack.com/ 🐦 @owocki  @Sara_Horowitz @mbauwens  | @greenpillnet |  🌐 Timestamps 00:00 – Welcome to the Network Nations mini-series with Primavera De Filippi & Felix Beer 01:30 – Introducing guests: Sarah Horowitz (Mutualist Society) & Michel Bauwens (P2P Foundation) 03:30 – What are the commons and how communities organize through shared resources 05:30 – Michel on the evolution from free software to Web3 and local commons 07:40 – How open collaboration shifted toward community self-reliance 09:30 – From cooperation to solidarity: why communities need mutual care 10:40 – When institutions fail, communities must organize for themselves 12:00 – Sarah's work with freelancers and the rise of mutualist organizing 13:40 – The three principles of mutualism: solidarity, economic mechanism, and longevity 15:00 – How commoning and mutualism interconnect historically 17:00 – The role of capital and appropriate funding for mutualist systems 18:40 – Scaling solidarity: from patchworks of local groups to federated networks 20:20 – Michel on cosmopolies and non-territorial governance throughout history 22:00 – The blockchain paradox: ideology as glue for coordination 23:30 – Why transcendent values or shared myths matter for collaboration 25:00 – Defining entanglement the bonds between communities and shared kinship 27:40 – Michel's "archipelago of regenerative villages" model 30:00 – How regenerative projects can attract capital and resilience 31:30 – Bioregional and cosmolocal models of solidarity 33:00 – Sarah on federations, unions, and historical models of coordination 35:00 – Rethinking "exit": from isolation to interdependence 37:20 – Why interdependence is strength, not weakness 38:30 – The lost baton of institutional knowledge in Web3 governance 39:50 – Delegation, iteration, and the relearning of organizational design 42:00 – Network Nations as additive systems, not exit systems 43:20 – Building power through the commons and mutualism 45:30 – From individual sovereignty to collective agency 47:10 – Building mutualist tech infrastructure for self-financing communities 49:20 – The disconnect between coders and communities — and how to bridge it 51:10 – Learning from what works: local experiments that can scale 53:00 – The role of "deep dives" in connecting commons, co-ops, and Web3 builders 55:00 – Why sensemaking and learning infrastructures are key for coordination 56:30 – Sarah on the "pods" model — ecosystems for mutual learning 57:40 – Network Nations as a convergence point for adjacent movements 59:10 – Building open, kind, and politically diverse collaboration cultures 01:01:20 – Avoiding the tragedy of the commons through entanglement and shared trust 01:05:00 – The SMART Co-op model for freelancers as a transnational example 01:07:00 – Low-hanging fruit: building local capital pools for community resilience 01:08:40 – Closing thoughts and invitations to join the movement

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• Season 10. Episode 4: Meaning in the 21st Century with Ellie Hain | Greenpill Podcast

  New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌍 Kevin chats with Ellie Hain writer, facilitator, and co-founder of the Meaning Alignment Institute (MAI) about how we can rediscover meaning, presence, and purpose in the 21st century. Ellie explores why so many people across modern society, tech, and culture feel disconnected, and how re-attunement to life, community, and ritual can help us restore the sacred in our everyday lives. Together, they discuss the meaning crisis, why it's emerging now, and how new institutions might integrate purpose, beauty, and values into the systems we're building for the future. 🎧 Links: 🌐 greenpill.network 🐦 @ellie_hain  | @owocki | @greenpillnet 🎥 Exit the Void: by Ellie Hain   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BqB-1ABZJSM  🌿 Timestamps 00:00 – Welcome to a new Greenpill season: exploring technology, coordination & Protopia 01:00 – Introducing guest Ellie Hain, co-founder of the Meaning Alignment Institute 02:20 – How Ellie began her journey into meaning, mysticism, and systems 04:30 – The tension between inner experience and societal expectations 05:30 – Exploring meaning as attunement to life 07:00 – Sovereignty and interdependence: dancing between individuality and the web of life 09:40 – What attunement feels like presence as a lived experience 11:00 – Exercise: reconnecting to meaningful moments 13:00 – Embodiment, resonance, and listening to life's signals 15:00 – Why meaning is our birthright, not something to earn 17:10 – The "meaning crisis" why so many feel disconnected today 19:00 – From numbness to re-sensitization: healing modern disconnection 21:00 – How modern systems desensitize us to what's sacred 22:40 – The resilience and strength in seeking meaning 25:00 – Designing extitutions: new systems that embed meaning and purpose 27:30 – Moving beyond homo economicus: building for homo sapiens 30:00 – Institutions as reflections of human nature and sensitivity 32:40 – The concept of containers for meaning and how they become corrupted 34:10 – What new containers for meaning look like in the 21st century 36:00 – Community, ritual, and story as ancient technologies for belonging 38:30 – Raves, festivals, and modern rites of passage 40:10 – The search for a new unifying narrative in the digital age 41:30 – Why the quest for meaning is the defining work of this century 43:00 – Facing pain and shadow as part of transformation 44:20 – Allocating meaning and capital together through rituals & community 46:00 – Meaning alignment as the next frontier of institutional design 47:00 – Closing reflections: finding beauty, purpose, and connection in everyday life

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• Introducing VDAO: Building Antifragile Network States | Greenpill Podcast

  New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌍 Kicking off a brand new Green Pill mini-series on Mondays hosted by VDAO (Marc Ziade & Kris Miller) — exploring how we can design antifragile network states that thrive through stress, decentralize sovereignty, and build regenerative communities. For Episode 1, Kevin Owocki joins them to introduce the season's theme — bridging crypto coordination and permaculture resilience — and discuss how antifragility offers a blueprint for building local, autonomous systems that survive disruption and grow stronger under pressure. This season features guests like Joseph Lubin, Simon Brown, and Rob Avis, diving into real-world experiments in energy, food, governance, and community sovereignty. Subscribe so you don't miss any of the conversations! 🎧 Learn more → greenpill.network 🐦 @owocki  @greenpillnet https://x.com/0xkrisv https://x.com/ZiadeMarc https://x.com/joinvdao  🌐 Timestamps 00:00 – Welcome to a new Greenpill mini-series hosted by VDAO 00:40 – Introducing Marc Rydon & Kris Miller: bridging crypto and permaculture 01:20 – What is VDAO and how it connects digital and physical sovereignty 02:10 – Defining the Antifragile Network State concept 03:00 – From regenerative to antifragile: systems that get stronger under stress 04:10 – Why centralized systems create fragility — and how to move beyond them 05:00 – Building resilient communities through autonomy and self-sufficiency 06:10 – Examples: local food production as a form of antifragility 07:00 – Resilience as the foundation for thriving through disruption 07:50 – Why antifragility is the right response to our era of accelerating change 08:30 – The vision for this new Greenpill season 09:00 – Season roadmap: from theory to practical examples 09:40 – Episode preview: Joseph Lubin on history, supercycles, and resilience 10:30 – Future episodes: real-world applications with Rob Avis and Simon Brown 11:00 – Exploring how crypto enables local and global sovereignty 11:50 – Network states beyond crypto: lessons from alternative nation movements 12:30 – How to combine localism and global coordination through Web3 tools 13:00 – What to expect from the VDAO mini-series 13:40 – Hosts' final thoughts: making antifragility tangible for everyone 14:00 – Kevin passes the mic: new voices, same Greenpill spirit 14:30 – Closing: building communities that thrive in chaos

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