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In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi speak with Santiago Siri, founder of Democracy Earth, DemocracyOS, and Proof of Humanity, to explore a central question of the digital age: Can we escape politics with protocols or do protocols simply create new political arenas? Santiago shares his journey from building Argentina's internet political party Partido de la Red, to creating open-source democratic infrastructure, to running one of the most ambitious on-chain identity and governance experiments in Web3. They discuss identity as the core bottleneck of digital democracy, governance failures inside protocols, DAOs as political systems, AI as both promise and threat, and what Network Nations must learn from a decade of real-world experimentation. A deep, honest conversation about legitimacy, power, and why politics never disappears  it just moves layers. 🌱 greenpill.network 🌐 networknations.network 🐦 @owocki @greenpillnet  https://x.com/santisiri https://x.com/yaoeo  ⏱️ Timestamps  00:00 – Can protocols help us escape politics? 01:00 – Introducing Santiago Siri 02:15 – From activism to political parties 04:10 – Partido de la Red & proxy voting 06:40 – Using technology to modernize democracy 09:00 – DemocracyOS & global adoption 10:45 – Why political systems resist change 12:10 – The limits of centralized digital voting 14:15 – Why identity is the core problem 15:45 – Leaving politics to build infrastructure 17:50 – Democracy Earth & global pilots 20:00 – Bitcoin vs Ethereum for governance 22:00 – The birth of Proof of Humanity 24:20 – Early identity failures & attacks 26:40 – One person, one vote challenges 29:55 – Proof of Humanity mechanics explained 32:10 – UBI, incentives & DAO governance 34:40 – Delegation farming & power struggles 36:25 – Quadratic delegation as a fix 38:25 – Removing founders from power 40:25 – Identity, justice & money tensions 42:00 – AI breaks video-based identity 44:05 – Worldcoin & biometric approaches 46:30 – Protocols still create politics 48:30 – AI governance experiments 50:25 – Why AI is still unsafe for governance 52:25 – Centralized compute as a risk 54:15 – Who governs the governance layer? 56:40 – Proof of Humanity as a proto–Network Nation 58:40 – What's missing for real Network Nations 01:00:45 – Shared identity & legitimacy 01:02:55 – Lessons from 10 years of experimentation 01:04:40 – Final lesson: legitimacy is enacted, not declared 01:07:30 – Where to follow Santiago & closing

New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi & Felix Beer are joined by Vitalik Buterin to reflect on one of the most influential experiments in recent community-building history: Zuzalu. Vitalik shares the motivations behind Zuzalu, what actually worked (and what didn't), and why many pop-up cities risk drifting into "long conferences" instead of becoming real communities. Together they explore kinship vs telos, culture vs mission, permanence vs mobility, governance by forking, and how zones, tribes, and regulatory sandboxes might interlock to form durable network nations. A deep, reflective conversation on how digitally aligned communities can evolve into lasting political actors without losing their soul. 🌱 greenpill.network 🌐 networknations.network 🐦 @owocki  @greenpillnet  https://x.com/yaoeo?lang=en  https://x.com/felix_beer?lang=en https://x.com/VitalikButerin https://www.zuzalu.city/ ⏱️ Timestamps  00:00 – Why Zuzalu matters for network nations 02:20 – Introducing Vitalik & the Zuzalu experiment 03:40 – From ideas to action: why Zuzalu was created 05:40 – Bringing 200 people together for two months 07:10 – When a pop-up becomes "real life" 09:10 – Membership, visas & selective curation 11:20 – Zuzalu's offshoots: Edge City, Vitalia & more 13:30 – Decentralizing after Zuzalu 15:30 – Why permanence matters 18:10 – Building culture through physical proximity 20:20 – Cities vs tribes vs nations 22:30 – Membership as a spectrum, not binary 24:50 – Bitcoin embassies & cultural recognition 27:00 – Interests vs vibes vs kinship 29:10 – Shared experiences as the glue of community 31:30 – Why kinship is hard to design 33:50 – Internal purpose vs external purpose 36:10 – Telos-driven communities & corporations 38:50 – Prospera, regulation & culture 41:00 – Zones as platforms for tribes 44:40 – Regulatory sandboxes & state experiments 46:50 – Libertarian vs developmentalist approaches 49:10 – Why niche cities beat generic hubs 51:40 – The "archipelago" vision 54:00 – Zones and tribes: separation or fusion? 56:00 – Governance by forking 01:10:00 – Why governance still matters 01:12:10 – Reinvigorating crypto's political vision 01:14:10 – Low-hanging fruit for network nations 01:16:40 – Ethereum as a proto-network nation 01:17:50 – Closing thoughts

New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the Network Nations mini-series, Primavera De Filippi  explore one of the most influential community experiments of the last 40 years: Burning Man. They're joined by Erika Blair, who leads engagement and network strategy at Burning Man, to unpack how a one-week event in the Nevada desert evolved into a global, year-round network of communities bound not by territory, but by shared principles, rituals, and identity. The conversation dives into the origins of Burning Man, the emergence of the 10 Principles, regional burns around the world, kinship and belonging, ritual and meaning, cultural dilution, and whether Burning Man can be understood as a real-world example of a network nation — including where it aligns, and where it diverges, from ideas like functional sovereignty and self-governance. A fascinating case study for anyone interested in network societies, collective identity, and the future of non-territorial communities. 🌱 greenpill.network 🌐 networknations.network https://burningman.org/   @owocki  @greenpillnet  ⏱️ Timestamps  00:00 – Burning Man as a radical community experiment 02:09 – Introducing Erika Blair & her role at Burning Man 03:50 – Why Burning Man resonated as a movement 05:30 – Burning Man as a response to consumerism 07:40 – The mythic origins: burning the man on the beach 09:40 – Meaning without a fixed narrative 12:15 – What does it mean to be a "Burner"? 14:20 – Global participation beyond Nevada 17:20 – Recognizing "Burner texture" and shared ethos 18:40 – Imagining the world anew 20:30 – The 10 Principles: origins and purpose 24:00 – How regional burns emerged worldwide 27:20 – Burning Man as a "network of networks" 30:10 – Why some events are official 32:10 – Protecting culture from commodification 35:40 – Kinship, belonging, and recognition 37:50 – Decommodification and trust 40:20 – Rituals: the Man, the Temple, grief & celebration 43:20 – Full-spectrum human experience 45:20 – Popularity, scaling & cultural dilution 47:50 – Burning Man across cultures 49:20 – Is Burning Man a Network Nation? 51:30 – Functional sovereignty & working with states 53:45 – Governance, autonomy & stewardship 56:20 – Burning Man as a permission engine 58:40 – Community decision-making & slow governance 01:00:55 – The power of intrinsic motivation 01:02:40 – Building nations vs building companies 01:03:50 – Where to learn more & closing

New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the Greenpill Podcast, Kevin Owocki sits down with Jake Hartnell reality engineer, builder, and the mind behind ENOVA to explore the idea of hyperstitions: beliefs and narratives that become real by spreading through networks. Jake explains how hyperstitions operate as a new coordination primitive, why technologies like Bitcoin, Ethereum, and AGI can be seen as successful hyperstitions, and how tools like hyperstition markets blend prediction markets, incentives, and storytelling to drive collective action. They discuss ENOVA, egregores, cybernetic systems, futarchy, and how communities can consciously design narratives that pull the future into the present. A deep and playful conversation about memetics, crypto-economics, and how collective belief can shape the world. 🌱 greenpill.network @owocki  @greenpillnet https://x.com/JakeHartnell Some of the materials we mention in the episode: https://x.com/0xEN0VA https://en0va.xyz/hyperstition ⏱️ Timestamps  00:00 – Welcome to a new season of Greenpill 01:55 – Introducing Jake Hartnell & the idea of hyperstitions 02:45 – What is a hyperstition? (simple definition) 04:23 – Examples: AGI, Ethereum & Bitcoin as hyperstitions 06:50 – Everyday hyperstitions: lunch vs parties 08:05 – Network effects & aspirational stories 09:20 – Is Greenpill itself a hyperstition? 10:10 – What Jake is building with ENOVA 11:05 – Hyperstition markets explained 12:35 – The first hyperstition market & Goodhart's Law 14:10 – Donation-based hyperstitions & GG / bioregional funding 16:10 – Incentivizing action, not passive prediction 18:00 – Theory of change & coordination design 19:40 – Hyperstition markets vs hyperstition itself 21:30 – Where to find ENOVA & what's coming next 23:05 – Egregores, cybernetic systems & collective intelligence 26:15 – Making hyperstition markets permissionless 28:00 – Greenpill, regeneration & narrative power 31:55 – Phases of a hyperstition 33:20 – Futarchy & decision-making markets 35:20 – Community as the real coordination engine 36:20 – A future where DAOs work 38:15 – Collective intelligence as political power 39:50 – Closing thoughts & where to follow Jake

New @greenpillnet pod out today! 🌐 In this episode of the Greenpill Podcast, Kevin Owocki talks with Raymond Cheng software engineer, researcher, and co-founder of Open Source Observer — about the Prosperous Software Movement and why open source licensing needs to evolve. Raymond explains how today's open source economy underfunds its own foundations, why existing licenses fail to reflect modern financial realities, and how a new class of revenue-sharing licenses could sustainably fund open source dependencies. They explore the history of free software, the limits of voluntary public goods funding, the idea of "ProfitLeft" licensing, and how legal, technical, and social mechanisms including crypto could help open source creators share in the prosperity they generate. A must-listen for anyone building, funding, or relying on open source software in Web3 and beyond. Some of the materials we mention in the episode: https://tally.so/r/68LGdO  https://pgf.ing/chat  🌱 greenpill.network @owocki  @greenpillnet @RaymondCheng00  Timestamps  00:00 – Welcome to the Greenpill Podcast 01:00 – Introducing Raymond Cheng & Open Source Observer 02:45 – The problem: funding open source sustainably 04:30 – Why public goods funding has hit its limits 06:10 – The history of free software & open source licenses 08:10 – Open source as the bedrock of the global economy 10:30 – Why current licenses ignore financial reality 12:10 – Introducing the Prosperous Software Movement 14:00 – Why licensing is a core lever of power 16:00 – Preserving open source freedoms while adding funding 18:30 – "ProfitLeft" vs traditional commercial licenses 20:30 – How revenue-sharing licenses could work 22:45 – Crypto, smart contracts & enforceability 24:50 – Legal, technical & social power combined 26:45 – Building a founding cohort of projects 28:30 – Call to action: how to get involved 30:00 – Long-term vision: prosperity for open source 31:30 – Zero-to-one adoption challenges 33:00 – Closing thoughts & where to follow Raymond