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380: Stop Holding It All Together: The Leadership Power of Letting Things Wobble, with Jen Randle
23/09/2026 | 35 mins.Some women are so good at holding everything together — business, life, visibility, relationships, responsibilities — that no one around them realises just how much they're carrying.
You see the problem before anyone else does. You smooth the tension in the room. You fill in the gaps that no one else even notices. You keep the team moving, and make every hard situation look effortless.
Our guest this week, Jen Randle, is talking with us today about our ability to stabilise and mask, and why sometimes we have to stop holding it all together. Because over time, that ability that feels like a strength can wear you down (and prevents the people around you from stepping up).
This episode is about self-trust in leadership, what it costs high-achieving women to be the one who holds it all together… and what becomes possible when you loosen the grip, and let things wobble.
The Head, Heart, and Gut All Belong in Business
Your head helps you analyse and create the plan.
Your heart tells you what you actually want.
And your gut helps you sense what may not yet be obvious on paper.
Effective leadership isn't about abandoning data for intuition. It's about allowing all three sources of information to have a fair voice at the table.
Growing as a leader doesn't mean becoming more and more capable, or carrying even more weight… it means trusting yourself enough to stop carrying what was never yours to hold.
What You'll Discover in Episode 380 — Stop Holding It All Together: The Leadership Power of Letting Things Wobble, with Jen Randle
Why so many capable women learn to "mask" by showing up polished and measured… and why that survival instinct turns exhausting
How the very talent for reading a room and stabilising it can shift from a strength into a trap in all aspects of business and life
Jen Randle's "three doors" framework for any moment that feels unstable (and why the third door is the one most of us never let ourselves open)
Why striving for perfection and overfunctioning so often go hand-in-hand, and what to do about it
How to bring your head, your heart, and your gut back into the same conversation, rather than letting logic outvote everything
The shift from becoming ever more capable of carrying the load, to trusting yourself enough to put some of it down
About Jen Randle
Jen Randle works at the intersection of trust, signal interpretation, and what she calls institutional coherence — helping leaders and organisations read what's shifting beneath the surface before misalignment becomes a crisis. Through her practice, SGNL, she has worked with organisations including Nike, Starbucks, Pinterest, and Virgin. Alongside her institutional work, Jen developed a personal practice called intrinsic way-finding, and she's currently writing a book, THE FRAY.
Mentioned in this Episode:
The Growth Network — the HerBusiness community for women business owners ready to do business by their own rules
Read Jen's writing on Substack, including the article that sparked this conversation
Learn more about Jen's work through SGNL
Full episode summary and resources – Episode 379 Show Notes
@herbusiness on Instagram and Facebook- What if you got to love your business, not just run it?
For the majority of established women business owners, that question almost feels silly to ask… as if loving your business and your work is a reqard you only earn once you've proven yourself enough to deserve it. In this episode, Suzi Dafnis makes the case that it actually works the other way around. Loving what you do, and learning how to love your business again isn't the dessert you get after years of finishing your vegetables. It's actually the engine that increases your momentum, drives your growth, and lets you decide on the best (and most fulfilling) long-term strategy for your business.
So if there is a sense of 'flatness' in your business, resist that initial urge to fix it (something we talked about in last week's episode: Sell Your Business or Rebuild It? What Every Established Woman Entrepreneur Eventually Asks). Because it won't go away with a new system, or a new offer, or basic re-organisation. Underneath is a far more uncomfortable question — whether you actually love any of it.
Today, we're talking about how you can learn to love your business again, even if you've been in the same routine for years or decades. And discover tools you can actually use this week to identify the parts of business that light you up, and make you feel most alive.
What You'll Discover in Episode 379: How to Love Your Business Again, Not Just Run It
Why loving what you do gets treated as something you EARN eventually in your career… and why "eventually" almost never arrives, no matter the revenue or the milestones hit
The subtle way successful women learn to "sand down their wanting," until the business runs beautifully and you can't remember the last time you were excited to open your laptop
The difference between a business that's technically thriving and one that's empty… and why the second kind doesn't work for long
A plus-or-minus exercise for reading your actual week the same way you'd read a number on a spreadsheet
One thing you can stop doing to love your business more, and one thing that must be protected (these can happen without you redesigning your whole business)
Why the things you protect on your own calendar actually teach your team what's allowed for them, too
Three questions that you can sit with this week, including one that might scare you just a little
Three Questions to Sit With This Week
If you tracked your whole week, adding a plus or minus beside each task based only on whether you loved doing it (NOT whether it went well)… what percentage do you think would land in the plus column?
What's one thing on your calendar this week you'd mark a clear minus? Something you do because you've always done it, not because you love it, that you could hand to someone else or simply stop doing?
What's one thing you'd mark a clear plus? That thing that makes you feel the most like yourself while doing it… and could you protect that on your calendar the way you'd protect a client meeting?
Mentioned in this Episode:
The Growth Network — the HerBusiness community for women business owners ready to do business by their own rules
Full episode summary and resources – Episode 379 Show Notes
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Learn more about HerBusiness Podcast listener Kelly White, founder of The Skin Retreat by Oak & Sage. Oak & Sage offers beauty and skin treatments, plus monthly membership packages tailored to address a variety of skin concerns. 378: Sell Your Business or Rebuild It? What Every Established Woman Entrepreneur Eventually Asks
09/09/2026 | 17 mins.Should you sell your business, rebuild it, or just burn it all down?
This is a common fork almost every established business owner reaches, often without warning.
Suzi Dafnis unpacks why the question of whether to sell your business tends to show up around year eight, nine, or ten of running a business — not because something's gone wrong, but because you've finally built something durable enough to ask whether you actually want it.
Suzi walks through why all three impulses — to sell your business, burn it down, or start over over — usually point to the same root cause: not the business, but the operating system it's still running on. The one you built years ago, under different conditions, with different resources, as a different version of yourself.
Using the story of a woman she calls Julia, an agency owner who nearly sold her fifteen-year business before realising what she actually wanted wasn't out, it was a different "in". Suzi introduces a fourth option nobody names: not selling, not burning it down, but rebuilding the woman running the business first, and letting the business follow.
You'll hear about the cost of sanding yourself down to be taken seriously over a decade-plus in business, and why the edge you learned to soften is often the same edge that made the work feel alive in the first place. Suzi reframes the whole decision: the real question isn't sell your business, burn it down, or rebuild it — it's what you'd build, or keep, if you stopped editing yourself down to fit it.
Suzi closes with three questions worth sitting with over the next week — not to answer immediately, but to write down honestly:
What am I relieved to lose if I sold this, and what am I afraid to admit I'd miss?
What am I actually craving when I imagine burning it down and starting from zero? And,
If I stopped editing myself down to run this, what would I change about how I lead tomorrow?
Suzi also shares a first look at Majestic, a new experience she's building for women exactly at this fork. Applications open this October, and you can join the list now at majestic.herbusiness.com.
Also in this episode: a listener shoutout to Carol Robertson of Ms Property Melbourne, who left a review after our episode on visibility, and a reference back to that earlier conversation on being more visible.
Check out the How Being More Visible Helps More Customers Choose You episode.
What You'll Discover In Episode 378: Sell Your Business or Rebuild It? What Every Established Woman Entrepreneur Eventually Asks
Why the thought, "Should I sell it, burn it down, or start over?" tends to arrive around year eight, nine, or ten… and what it's actually signaling
The difference between a business that's thriving and one that's durable, and why so many women reach "successful" before they let themselves ask who it's thriving FOR
How all three impulses usually trace back to the same root cause, and why that it actually great news for you
The "operating system" idea: how a business can scale for a decade while still running on the assumptions of a version of you who no longer exists
The fourth option almost nobody names, and why it all begins with the woman running the business rather than the org chart or the offer suite
The cost of sanding yourself down to be taken seriously, and how to tell whether your edge is gone for good… or is just waiting for permission to come back
Three questions worth sitting with this week
A first look at Majestic, the new experience Suzi's building for women standing at exactly this fork, with applications opening in October
Mentioned in this Episode:
The Growth Network — the HerBusiness community for women business owners ready to do business by their own rules
Full episode summary and resources – Episode 378 Show Notes
@herbusiness on Instagram and Facebook- What if your next business move didn't have to be performance-perfect? What if, instead, you started treating that next business move like a rehearsal? In this episode of the HerBusiness Podcast, Suzi Dafnis answers a listener question that almost every experienced business owner asks eventually: "How do I know if I'm building the RIGHT next thing?".
On the surface, it sounds like a question about strategy…
Should I create this program? Or this new product?
Should I change my business model? Should I pursue this opportunity?
Should I hire for this? Should I move into a different market?
Should I finally retire this thing that has worked for years but that I don't really want to do anymore?
Underneath, it's really a question about certainty: How do I know this will work before I begin?
So many business owners get caught up in uncertainty, putting their next move on pause to get it perfect. In order to take the pressure of yourself and your business, start treating your next move as a rehearsal. It doesn't need to be perfect the first time. In this episode of the HerBusiness Podcast, Suzi Dafnis reveals exactly why taking that first step forward is the most important you can take, no matter how imperfect it may be.
You don't always think your way into the next version of your business. Sometimes you have to live your way into it.
What you'll discover in Episode 377: What If You Treated Your Next Business Move Like a Rehearsal?
Why so many business owners strive for perfection, and the reason that perfection can hold you back from growth (and doing what you love)
How to embrace uncertainty, and see it as a sign for what genuinely new work feels like
The trick experience can play on us, and why the very success that should free us to experiment starts giving us reasons not to
The real difference between performing and rehearsing — and which to value more
Why you can't always think your way into the next version of your business, and instead live your way through it
What "work" actually means, and why a first version that doesn't meet your expectations is exactly the feedback you need
The questions to sit with to tell whether an idea genuinely feels wrong, or you just want certainty before you begin
Mentioned in this Episode:
The Growth Network — the HerBusiness community for women business owners ready to do business by their own rules
Full episode summary and resources – Episode 377 Show Notes
@herbusiness on Instagram and Facebook 376: The Hardest Promotion in Business Is the One Nobody Gives You as a Business Owner
26/08/2026 | 12 mins.In every other career path, promotions and raises are the status quo. But promotion in business — in your own business — is entirely up to you. The shift from doer to leader is something you have to notice, and then choose, for yourself. In this episode of the HerBusiness podcast, Suzi Dafnis is revealing what she calls the "invisible promotion"… and how to recognise the moment your business has outgrown the version of you that built it, and starts asking for someone new.
The signs are easy to miss when you're in the day-to-day. You're working harder than ever, but your impact feels plateaued. Your team waits on you before making any decisions. You can't switch off even when you're not technically working.
What you'll discover in Episode 376: The Hardest Promotion in Business Is the One Nobody Gives You as a Business Owner
Why founders never get told they've been promoted in business, and how to recognise that you're past due for one
The signs your business has quietly outgrown the role you're still playing
Why being the person with every answer is a trap you may have set for yourself
How to shift from rescuing your team to coaching them (+ three simple questions to use)
Why clarity (NOT better people) is usually what an overwhelmed business is really missing
A simple two-column exercise that reveals what only you can do versus what you've simply always done
Mentioned in this Episode:
The Growth Network — the HerBusiness community for women business owners ready to do business by their own rules
Full episode summary and resources – Episode 376 Show Notes
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About HerBusiness
Your Business. Your Rules. You didn't start your business to work around the clock, burn out, or follow someone else's rules.
This podcast is for WOMEN BUSINESS OWNERS ready to step out of the grind and build businesses that deliver FREEDOM, FULFILMENT and FINANCIAL SUCCESS — ON YOUR TERMS.
Welcome to the path that has already helped tens of thousands of women break free from hustle culture and create profitable, sustainable businesses THEIR way.
Welcome to the HerBusiness Podcast!
I'm Suzi Dafnis, CEO at HerBusiness — the most COLLABORATIVE COMMUNITY for women growing SIX AND SEVEN-FIGURE BUSINESSES in ways that feel ALIGNED with what they truly want.
Each week, I'll share how to stop "winging it" and ditch the traditional rulebook, so you can finally design your ideal business — one that delivers consistent income and the lifestyle you love. Every. Single. Day.
You'll also hear inspiring conversations with world-class entrepreneurs, speakers, and authors — including Amy Porterfield, Gabby Bernstein, Seth Godin, Kim Kiyosaki, Danielle LaPorte, Stu McLaren, Dan Martell, and many more.
If you want sustainable strategies to grow without burnout… If you want clarity around money, mindset, marketing, and offers that truly convert… If you want a waitlist of buyers without sleazy sales tactics or endless hustle… Then, you're in the right place.
Together, we'll explore both the inner game and the outer strategies of business growth, giving you the tools to create lasting success — according to what matters most to YOU.
It's time to do business differently.
Your Business. Your Rules. Grow a Business that Works for YOU!
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