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    Recovery Pro Tips w/ Jesse from NAVAC

    05/03/2026 | 54 mins.
    Recorded live on the floor at the AHR Expo 2026, this episode of the podcast brings together host Bryan and his guest Jesse, National Training Manager at NAVAC, for a candid, high-energy conversation about professional best practices in the HVAC/R trade. The two have a long-standing friendship and professional rapport that makes the discussion feel both educational and genuinely entertaining. Jesse brings a unique background to the table — from underground coal mining in West Virginia to becoming a lineman, then pivoting to HVAC through vocational school and a contractor-sponsored apprenticeship program. His path to becoming a national trainer is a testament to the value of investing in yourself and being open to learning at every stage of a career.
    The core of this episode centers on refrigerant recovery and charging best practices — a topic that might sound routine but quickly reveals how many technicians, even experienced ones, are cutting corners that cost their clients and their companies money. Bryan and Jesse dig into the problems caused by unnecessarily opening sealed systems, the refrigerant lost every time a technician gauges up a system without need, and why the HVAC industry needs to shift its mindset to treat equipment more like a home refrigerator: a sealed system that should run for years without needing to be cracked open. Jesse makes a compelling case that many so-called "mysterious leaks" are actually caused by repeated unnecessary gauge hookups removing small amounts of refrigerant each time.
    A significant portion of the conversation focuses on the transition away from manifold gauges toward digital probes and modern recovery setups. Jesse isn't dismissive of manifolds — he acknowledges their place in the classroom and as a backup tool — but he makes a strong case that eliminating restrictions throughout the recovery and charging process is one of the single most impactful things a technician can do to improve efficiency, protect equipment, and deliver better results for customers. Topics like pulling Schrader cores, using 3/8" hoses, Rapid-Y fittings, and the importance of using a filter dryer inline with the recovery machine are all covered with practical, field-tested advice.
    Bryan and Jesse also tackle some timely and emerging issues facing the industry, including the equalization behavior of R-454B blends and the growing challenge of refrigerant recovery in extreme cold climates as cold-climate heat pumps become more widespread in northern markets. These aren't hypothetical — they're problems technicians are encountering right now, and Bryan's theory about refrigerant fractionation showing up on thermal imaging cameras offers a genuinely fascinating technical angle. The episode closes with Jesse's overarching message: eliminate restrictions wherever you can, take pride in your craft, and never stop learning.
    Topics Covered
    Jesse's background: coal mining, lineman work, HVAC vo-tech, contractor apprenticeship, and path to becoming a national trainer
    The sealed system philosophy: why unnecessarily opening refrigerant circuits causes more problems than it solves
    Manifold gauges — their appropriate role in training and as a backup vs. the case for moving to digital probes
    How repeated gauge hookups can introduce refrigerant loss and fake "mystery leaks" — the 3.5 oz. per hose problem
    Restrictions as the enemy of efficient recovery: pulling Schrader cores, using core removal tools, and proper hose sizing
    The importance of recovering liquid first and how restrictions cause flash gas that slows recovery and adds heat
    Hose size trade-offs: why 3/8" hoses are the recommended sweet spot between flow rate and refrigerant retention
    Using a filter dryer inline with the recovery machine as cheap insurance against acid contamination and machine damage
    Why recovered refrigerant should generally NOT be reused — dirty recovery tanks, fractionation, and the limits of a single filter pass
    Scales as a non-negotiable tool: weighing refrigerant in AND out, and why techs who estimate by feel are guessing
    Diagnosing overcharge and undercharge situations using scale data before making repairs
    Airflow first, charge second: the importance of confirming CFM before adding refrigerant to a struggling system
    The R-454B equalization issue: refrigerant fractionation in new blends and Bryan's thermal imaging theory
    Cold-climate heat pump recovery challenges at sub-zero temperatures and strategies for adding heat to the system
    Heat pump maintenance best practices: testing defrost cycles and what happens when they haven't been checked in years
    Word of mouth as the most powerful (and dangerous) form of advertising in the service industry
    Recovery cylinder safety: the dangers of overfilling tanks and the 80% rule
     
    Learn more about NAVAC's products and resources at https://navacglobal.com/. 
    Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.
    Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 7th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium.
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    Symposium - What is the House Trying to Tell Me?

    03/03/2026 | 35 mins.
    Join Chris Hughes and Adam Mufich at the 7th Annual HVAC/R Training Symposium as they interview building scientist Tessa Murray. In this eye-opening conversation about what your house is really trying to tell you. Discover why HVAC techs need to understand building science fundamentals to truly master their craft.
    What You'll Learn:
    The critical connection between HVAC systems and building science
    How to identify hidden moisture problems in walls and attics
    Combustion safety testing that could save lives
    Understanding dew points and thermal bridging
    Proper ventilation strategies for different climate zones
    Why duct leakage testing is just the beginning
    Key Topics Covered:
    Transition from cold climate (Minnesota) to hot/humid (Florida) building science
    Ice dams, ghosting, and crying houses explained
    The house as a system approach for HVAC professionals
    Blower door testing and pressure diagnostics
    Indoor air quality concerns and solutions
    Natural draft appliance safety considerations
    Wall assembly moisture management
    Occupant behavior impacts on building performance
     
    Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 7th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium.
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    Don't Die! w/ Louise from UEi

    26/02/2026 | 51 mins.
    In this episode, recorded live at AHR Expo 2026, Bryan sits down with Louise from UEi Test Instruments for an in-depth conversation about one of the most underestimated dangers in the HVAC trade: carbon monoxide. Rather than treating CO as just another checkmark on a safety list, Bryan and Louise dive into the full history of the gas — all the way back to early publications from 1922 and 1923 that were already studying the effects of low-level CO exposure. One of the most fascinating takeaways from their discussion is just how long the industry has known about the dangers of carbon monoxide, yet how frequently it remains misunderstood, misdiagnosed, and overlooked on the job site.
    Louise breaks down the science behind CO poisoning in a way that is both accessible and eye-opening. Unlike high-level acute poisoning — where symptoms are immediately obvious — low-level, chronic carbon monoxide exposure is an entirely different beast. It can mimic the flu, chronic headaches, early-onset Alzheimer's, and even heart attack symptoms. Because CO is colorless, odorless, and tasteless, it is notoriously difficult to diagnose, and victims often have no idea what is causing their illness. Compounding the problem is the cumulative nature of CO toxicity: the gas builds up in the bloodstream over time and can linger in the body for days, months, or even years after exposure ends. Bryan draws an entertaining but sobering historical connection between the prevalence of carbon monoxide poisoning during the Victorian era — when gas lamps were common inside homes — and the widespread reports of ghost sightings, fugue states, fainting spells, and the spiritualist movement of the time. It was almost certainly CO poisoning, not the paranormal.
    The conversation then shifts to practical, on-the-job guidance for technicians and contractors. Bryan and Louise walk through the proper process for combustion analysis: starting your analyzer outside in fresh air, identifying test ports on furnaces, boilers, and water heaters, and understanding what readings at steady state actually mean. They emphasize that CO production is not limited to furnaces alone — ranges, ovens, dryers, fireplaces, water heaters, and even propane-powered forklifts are all legitimate sources. One of the most critical points they make is that carbon monoxide hazards are often intermittent and condition-dependent. A system can appear to be working perfectly during one visit and be producing dangerous levels the next time a door is closed or a vent is accidentally blocked. Visual inspection, awareness of combustion air sourcing, and thoughtful analysis are just as important as having the right instruments.
    On the product side, Louise introduces two exciting new offerings from UEI. The first is the UEI Clip, a compact personal CO detector that clips onto a bag, belt, or lanyard, activates automatically at 20 ppm, and is designed as a set-it-and-forget-it safety device with a two-year sealed battery lifespan. Priced under $100, it is an affordable way to outfit an entire team with a baseline layer of personal protection. The second highlight is the new High Accuracy Clamp Meter (HAC), a commemorative product celebrating the United States' 250th anniversary. This meter excels at wattage measurement — particularly with low-draw ECM blower motors where most meters fall short — and Bluetooth integration with MeasureQuick is on the horizon. Louise also walks through UEI's revamped combustion analyzer recertification program, UEI Service Plus, which offers same-day turnaround on standard recertifications at their Indianapolis facility, extended warranties with each annual service, and transparent, upfront pricing directly on their website.
    Topics Covered
    The history of carbon monoxide research dating back to publications from 1922 and 1923, and a 1923 patent for a hot water heater that sparked a friendly debate between Bryan and Louise about terminology.
    How low-level, chronic CO exposure is underdiagnosed and can mimic conditions like the flu, chronic headaches, early-onset Alzheimer's, and heart attack symptoms — and why CO builds up cumulatively in the bloodstream.
    The fascinating historical theory connecting widespread Victorian-era reports of ghosts, fugue states, and fainting spells to chronic carbon monoxide poisoning from indoor gas lamps.
    CO safety thresholds: residential standard (9 ppm), World Health Organization guideline (4 ppm), first responder evacuation threshold (35 ppm), and how UL-rated home alarms may not trigger until 70 ppm sustained for 1–4 hours.
    Sources of CO that technicians often overlook, including ovens, ranges, dryers, fireplaces, water heaters, propane forklifts, generators, and vehicles idling near garages.
    Proper combustion analysis procedure: starting the analyzer outside in ambient air, identifying or installing test ports, running tests at steady state, and interpreting O2, CO, and stack temperature readings.
    Industry CO standards for furnaces: official standard (400 ppm), HRI recommendation (200 ppm), industry best practice (100 ppm), and modern high-efficiency benchmarks (50 ppm or less).
    How combustion air sourcing — and changes to it (new roofs, blocked vents, swapped doors) — is one of the most commonly missed risk factors for CO production.
    Why even "heat pump markets" like Florida still need combustion analysis, since over 90% of homes have at least one fuel-fired appliance.
    Introduction of the UEi Clip personal CO detector: set-and-forget, activates at 20 ppm, sealed 2-year battery, priced under $100, and its unexpected popularity among refrigeration technicians.
    Introduction of the UEi High Accuracy Clamp Meter (HAC) commemorative edition: exceptional accuracy at low current draws (ideal for ECM blower motors), full accessory kit included, and upcoming measureQuick Bluetooth integration.
    UEi's Service+ combustion analyzer recertification program: same-day turnaround at their Indianapolis lab, extended warranty with each annual service, prepaid UPS shipping labels, and transparent pricing on their website.
    A brief spotlight on UEi as a family-owned business founded by Michael Kane's parents, with their own manufacturing operations in the UK and Korea.
     
    Learn more about UEi's new and longstanding products, as well as the Service+ guarantee, at https://ueitest.com/. 
    Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.
    Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 7th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium.
    Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android.
    Subscribe to our YouTube channel.
    Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android.
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    Heat Exchanger Crack Comment - Short #280

    24/02/2026 | 9 mins.
    In this short podcast episode, Bryan responds to a comment we received about cracked heat exchangers and how they were characterized in a recent combustion safety podcast episode.
    In reality, heat exchanger cracks counter the effects of the inducer motor.  The inducer pulls air through the heat exchanger, but a crack causes the inducer to pull the air from elsewhere, especially once the blower motor comes on. That is a cause of flame rollout and a higher CO measurement.
    Induced draft (80%) furnace venting is under negative pressure near the equipment (WRT the air in the room around it).  The inducer fan pulls the air through the single heat exchanger, but air isn't "pushed" out of the flue. That's because the draft in the flue is greater than the inducer itself. 
    80% furnaces are also open-combustion units that pull combustion air in from the air around the furnace, and they require access to fresh air. When you have gaps and cracks in the ductwork, the blower comes on and may cause the combustion analysis readings to change briefly. In a 90%+ sealed combustion furnace, the change is very minimal and doesn't last long; if the numbers vary a lot and are sustained, then that's an indicator of a cracked heat exchanger.
    In any case, if you suspect a cracked heat exchanger and want to quote it, you must be able to find it. Proper combustion analysis and combustion analyzer use and care also matter for accurate cracked heat exchanger diagnosis.
     
    Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.
    Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 7th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium.
    Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android.
    Subscribe to our YouTube channel.
    Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android.
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    Dehum Innovations and Essentials w/ Nikki K.

    19/02/2026 | 51 mins.
    In this live episode recorded at the AHR Expo 2026 Podcast Pavilion in Las Vegas, host Bryan sits down with longtime friend and industry expert Nikki Krueger of Santa Fe and AprilAire. Nikki brings over 15 years of experience in indoor air quality and whole-home dehumidification to the conversation, having started her career with AprilAire before moving to Santa Fe (formerly Ultra Aire) — and now coming full circle as the two brands have integrated under the AprilAire umbrella as of January 1st of this year. The episode dives deep into a topic close to both hosts' hearts: how to properly manage indoor humidity, and what role a whole-home ventilating dehumidifier plays in a comprehensive HVAC system strategy.
    Bryan and Nikki lay out a holistic framework for tackling moisture problems, emphasizing that a dehumidifier should be the last tool added — not the first. Before reaching for dedicated dehumidification equipment, contractors need to assess the building envelope for air leaks, evaluate whether the air conditioning system is properly sized (oversizing is a major contributor to poor latent removal), confirm that the AC is set up with the right airflow and sensible heat ratio, and take into account the ventilation strategy and occupant behavior. The pair discuss real-world scenarios ranging from elderly residents in Florida who keep their thermostats at 80°F, to a project in Barbados where overcooling caused interstitial condensation in walls and ceilings. The message is clear: humidity control is a systems problem, not a single-product fix.
    A significant portion of the episode is dedicated to proper installation practices for whole-home dehumidifiers. Nikki explains why Santa Fe recommends pulling from a dedicated return and discharging into the supply side of the AC duct — rather than tying into the return side — because the heat generated by dehumidification (roughly 1,054 BTUs per pint of water removed) can warm the AC evaporator coil and reduce its latent removal capacity. Bryan adds nuance around dew point management when routing outdoor air ducts, and both hosts agree that fan operation strategy (continuous low-speed vs. intermittent) matters more in tight, low-load homes where mixing is harder to achieve naturally. They also clarify a common misconception: a ventilating dehumidifier is not a dedicated outdoor air system (DOAS) and does not automatically condition incoming ventilation air before it enters the home.
    The conversation wraps up with an exciting look at Santa Fe's newly launched Ultra V Series, which features an upgraded 8-inch ventilation duct (up from 6 inches), a more powerful fan for handling higher static pressure in retrofit applications, a new digital control panel, and a wired remote humidity sensor that can be placed in the living space for more accurate readings. Nikki and Bryan also field audience questions on topics like short-cycling risks from oversized dehumidifiers and why Santa Fe chose a wired sensor over wireless (accuracy, reliability, and fewer callback headaches). Bryan closes by noting that rising dew points across most U.S. markets over the last 20 years make whole-home dehumidification more relevant than ever — and that any region where you can see green grass outside is a candidate for a more advanced moisture control strategy.
    Topics Covered
    Introduction to Nikki Krueger and the merger of Santa Fe and AprilAire under one brand
    The purpose of whole-home ventilating dehumidifiers and how they fit into an overall HVAC system strategy
    Latent vs. sensible heat loads explained — and why both matter for comfort and moisture control
    Geographic reach of humidity problems — why dehumidification isn't just a Florida or Gulf Coast issue
    Ken Gehring ("Teddy Bear"), inventor of the whole-house ventilating dehumidifier, and his framework for diagnosing moisture problems
    The four-factor checklist before deploying a dehumidifier: building envelope, AC sizing, AC setup/airflow, and ventilation strategy
    How occupant behavior (thermostat preferences, activity levels, large households) creates latent load variability
    The dangers of overcooling — how setting thermostat too low can cause interstitial condensation in walls, ceilings, and attics
    Sensible heat ratio (SHR) and its role in a system's ability to remove moisture — targeting ~350 CFM per ton in humid climates
    Why dehumidifiers should connect to a dedicated return and discharge into the supply — not tie into the AC return side
    How dehumidifier heat output (~1,054 BTUs per pint) can reduce AC coil efficiency when ducted incorrectly
    Fan-on strategy debate: when running continuous low-speed circulation helps vs. hurts humidity control
    Tighter homes, smaller systems, and the importance of air mixing strategies (including ceiling fans)
     Ventilating dehumidifiers vs. dedicated outdoor air systems (DOAS) — clearing up a common misconception about how ventilation air is conditioned
    Dew point management for outdoor air ducts — preventing condensation inside duct runs
    Using dehumidifiers to address sweating ductwork in multi-story homes
    Rising dew points over the past 20 years and what "green grass climates" means for dehumidification demand
    Heat pump oversizing challenges in colder climates and the downstream impact on AC latent removal
    Santa Fe's new Ultra V Series: 8-inch ventilation duct, stronger fan, digital controls, and wired remote humidity sensor
    Why proper dehumidifier sizing matters: short-cycling risks, moisture reservoir release, and uneven RH throughout the home
    Why Santa Fe chose a wired humidity sensor — accuracy, reliability, and reducing contractor callbacks
    Audience Q&A: oversizing consequences, short-cycling mechanics, and sensor placement best practices
     
    Learn more about Santa Fe Dehumidifiers at santafeproducts.com. 
    Connect with Nikki Krueger on LinkedIn or Instagram @nikkikruegerIAQ.
    Check out the work of Ken Gehring ("Teddy Bear") or ask him a question on the HVAC Talk Forum: hvac-talk.com.
    Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.
    Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 7th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium.
    Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android.
    Subscribe to our YouTube channel.
    Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android.

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