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Bryan Orr
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    Multi Position Valves and More - Short #293

    07/07/2026 | 20 mins.
    In this short podcast episode, Bryan talks about multi-position service valves and more valve types.
    Many typical residential systems have brass service valves with a hex cap and Schrader ports; access happens solely through the Schrader ports (where the cores are). Schraders are restrictive and prone to leaking, and they don't have the ability to back-seat or front-seat. In applications where we need that capability, we use multi-position service valves instead. (Note: CoreMax valves have much higher flow rates, but you can't remove the cores except with a highly specialized tool.)
    Multi-position service valves are common in commercial refrigeration and allow for unrestricted, full-port flow. They do not have spring-loaded cores in the service port. If you treat these valves like Schrader valves, refrigerant WILL come out if it's not back-seated. You adjust the position by turning the stem with a refrigeration service wrench; loosen the packing nut before attempting to turn the stem, as tightening it down will crush the compressible packing material around the rotating stem. Tighten it back down after making your adjustment.
    These valves also require lots of heat to braze, so we must cover heat-sensitive surfaces with wet rags or heat-blocking putty (like WetRag by Refrigeration Technologies). The valve must be mid-seated while brazing, not fully front-seated or back-seated, as the surfaces are more likely to warp otherwise. Mid-seating the valve also provides a high-volume path directly to the system. Back-seating the valve is the everyday running position (stem must be rotated fully counterclockwise) and blocks access to the service port. Cracking off the back seat requires you to rotate the stem slightly clockwise with service hoses securely attached, just enough to allow you to get a reading through a tiny gap. Front-seating the valve is good for isolation with the compressor off but may cause compressor failure or serious injuries if you run the compressor. Front-seating requires you to rotate the stem fully clockwise; it completely blocks the flow of refrigerant through the system, and the service port stays open to the upstream side of the valve body. Catastrophic compressor failure will happen if the suction or discharge valves are front-seated while running.
    General multi-position service valves are NOT king valves. King valves are multi-position service valves specifically located at the outlet of the liquid receiver. These valves front-seat to help you pump down the system when you need to do repairs on the low side; it blocks liquid refrigerant from leaving the tank. A queen valve may be located at the inlet of the receiver on the drop leg from the condenser; front-seating it with the king valve will fully isolate the receiver.
     
    Multi-position service valve tech tip: https://www.hvacrschool.com/compressor-multi-position-service-valves/ 
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    Triple Point In Water and CO2 w/ Andrew G. and Matthew T.

    02/07/2026 | 1h 2 mins.
    In this episode, Bryan is joined by Matthew Taylor, a supermarket refrigeration specialist whose expertise centers on CO₂ rack systems, and Andrew Greaves, Director of User Experience at NAVAC Tools, for the third installment of their series on triple-point evacuation. The conversation expands beyond water to bring CO₂ into the picture, exploring where the two refrigerants behave similarly around the triple point and "more importantly" where the differences can create serious field problems. Whether you're pulling vacuums on residential equipment or servicing transcritical CO₂ racks at a grocery store, understanding what actually happens at these phase boundaries will change how you approach the work.
    The triple point of water sits at 4,579 microns, corresponding to just above 32°F (273 Kelvin). Andrew shares a fascinating piece of metrology history: for decades, the Kelvin was formally defined as one two-hundred-and-seventy-third of the triple point of water, making it the most reproducible temperature constant ever established. In practical HVAC terms, this means that any time a technician hits industry-standard evacuation targets, they pass right through the triple point of water "every single time." The danger isn't the crossing itself but what happens when moisture is present in a cold ambient: the vacuum pump can create ice, and because sublimation requires enormous energy input from the surrounding environment, that ice can persist and deliver a falsely passing vacuum reading. Andrew explains why a decay test is the real proof of a dry system, since sublimating ice will continue to raise the micron reading after the pump is isolated. The conversation also covers how micron gauges actually work: they measure thermal conductivity, not pressure, which is why refrigerant vapor entrained in compressor oil can cause wild, erratic gauge behavior that mimics both moisture and a leak simultaneously.
    For CO₂, the triple point arrives at roughly 70°F and 75 PSI "conditions that are easy to stumble into in the field." Matthew explains that in an operating transcritical CO₂ system, the triple point itself isn't the daily concern; the danger comes when a technician relieves pressure too quickly and liquid CO₂ flashes right through the triple point, instantly forming dry ice inside the lines and creating a hard plug. On the opposite end of the scale, CO₂ faces a critical point at just 87°F and 1,055 PSI, something that is essentially unreachable for most conventional refrigerants but is a routine operating reality in warm climates. Matthew walks through exactly what happens in a transcritical system: above the critical point, the CO₂ behaves as neither liquid nor vapor, the PT chart no longer applies, and a conventional condenser becomes a "gas cooler" that rejects heat but cannot condense the refrigerant. The refrigerant must be forced through a high-pressure valve to drop it back below the critical point, where it flashes instantly into liquid inside a flash tank. The episode also covers the "burping" behavior of CO₂ pop-off valves during high-ambient conditions, the dangers of isolating liquid CO₂, and how grocery stores have evolved from keeping spare CO₂ cylinders on hand to battery-powered fractional compressor systems that keep the flash tank subcritical through power outages.
    The episode wraps up with takeaways that apply across both refrigerant worlds. Big hoses and fast pumps don't eliminate moisture problems; they can actually create a false-confidence scenario where ice forms, the system still pulls deep, and the technician believes the job is done. The decay test remains the only reliable proof of dryness, and nitrogen sweeps serve multiple purposes: adding turbulence to help release refrigerant from oil, displacing refrigerant from the micron gauge sensor, and temporarily raising the system back above the triple point so ice converts to liquid before being removed as vapor. The group also briefly touches on the emerging CO₂ carbon capture industry, where the triple point is used intentionally to separate and harvest CO₂ from industrial flue gases. The world of CO₂ service is growing fast, from niche grocery racks to mini-split-sized transcritical units, and the tooling needed to work on the high-pressure side hasn't fully caught up yet.
    Topics Covered
    Triple point of water: 4,579 microns / ~32°F / 273 Kelvin, and its historic role defining the Kelvin scale
    Why technicians pass through the triple point of water during every standard evacuation
    How ice forms during deep vacuum pulls and why sublimation is slow without adequate heat input
    How micron gauges measure thermal conductivity, not pressure, and what causes erratic readings
    Distinguishing moisture, refrigerant-in-oil, and actual leaks during a decay test
    Triple point of CO₂: ~70°F / 75 PSI, and how dry ice forms when liquid CO₂ is vented through it
    Why liquid CO₂ must never be isolated and the dangerous pressure implications if it is
    The critical point of CO₂ at 87°F / 1,055 PSI and why transcritical operation is unavoidable in warm climates
    How transcritical CO₂ systems work: gas coolers, high-pressure valves, and flash tanks
    CO₂ system operating pressure ranges across the suction, liquid, and discharge sides
    Pop-off valves and the "burping" phenomenon in transcritical CO₂ systems during high-ambient conditions
    Grocery store power outage scenarios and battery-powered CO₂ subcooling solutions
    The role of crankcase heaters when pulling a vacuum on systems with oil-logged refrigerant
    Nitrogen sweeps: turbulence, sensor displacement, and temporary triple-point recovery
    Heated nitrogen as an emerging technique for improving vacuum quality
    CO₂ carbon capture: using the triple point industrially to harvest CO₂ from flue gases
    The rapid growth of smaller transcritical CO₂ systems and the current gap in high-side service tooling
     
    Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.
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    Washing Commercial Coils and Water Challenges - Short #292

    30/06/2026 | 13 mins.
    In this short podcast episode, Bryan talks about considerations for washing commercial coils and water challenges techs might face. Despite being the topic of debate within the last several years, cleaning coils matters and will affect performance.
    When washing coils, we use Refrigeration Technologies Viper cleaners (especially Venom Packs) when we actually need cleaners. No matter which cleaner you use (or if you don't), you want some pressure and a high flow rate when rinsing, but keep in mind that some pressure-washers may produce too much pressure and too little flow; the sweet spot is around 300 PSI, and microchannel coils require extra caution. 
    In terms of commercial maintenance contracts, we often have a lot of coils to wash and may not have adequate water access for the job. We find that the best move is to ask the client to install plumbing infrastructure that allows for better water access. If they refuse, you can increase the labor charge due to extra hose setups, reduced pressure, etc. The client must also be able to provide safe access to the coils; do not write a proposal or carry out a maintenance procedure if techs cannot carry out the work safely. 
    Strict chemical policies are important, too. Water-first approaches are best; if a water wash is sufficient, use just water and only escalate to chemicals if there is a clear need for a stronger cleaning. If you use chemical cleaners, use the proper dilution ratio; over-concentrated cleaners can damage coils. Chemicals also require more rinsing, and it's more economical to do as little rinsing as possible. Pre-rinsing, adding cleaner from bottom to top, letting the cleaner dwell, and rinsing off is the ideal sequence.
    If you encounter water challenges on the ground, you can use a ground-based water trailer with a high-output, low-pressure washer attached. If the issue is on the roof, a battery-powered washer can help (like the Dewalt 20V MAX cordless power cleaner); they draw from vessels of water, like 5-gallon jerricans. Remove the casing if you need to (making sure the client pays for that additional labor), and rinse from the inside out.
     
    Learn more about Refrigeration Technologies cleaners at https://www.refrigtech.com/. 
    Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.
    Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 8th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium.
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    Does AI Belong in Trades Education w/ Ty

    25/06/2026 | 49 mins.
    Bryan opens this conversation with Ty Branaman, Head of Training at the GRIT Foundation, by digging into a question that anchors everything else in the episode: what is trades education actually for? Ty's answer is unambiguous — it's about people, not information. He describes his own struggle with traditional, reading-heavy instruction and explains how that personal experience shaped his teaching method, one built around making concepts visible, relevant, and hands-on. Bryan builds on the idea, arguing that education is too often treated as a simple transfer of information when it's really a deeply human exchange, a kind of gift passed from one person to another through real, physical, kinesthetic experience rather than passive reading or watching.
    From there, the conversation turns to artificial intelligence, the central topic of the episode. Ty is careful to clarify that he isn't anti-AI; he uses it daily to clean up grammar, soften prickly emails, and refine images. His concern is specifically about AI replacing the human elements of teaching — the mentor a student looks up to, the instructor who visibly cares whether someone actually learns. Bryan adds a related warning about AI confidently producing false information, citing examples from law and HVAC alike, and introduces the idea of an "AI human sandwich," where human creativity starts the process, AI assists in the middle, and a human vets and rehumanizes whatever comes out the other end.
    Much of the discussion circles back to Ty's long-standing frustration with PowerPoint-driven training, and how AI threatens to make that problem worse by adding a synthetic avatar to read slides aloud instead of fixing the underlying issue. He recounts being written up at a previous job for skipping a PowerPoint lecture to take students into the lab, and shares a favorite teaching memory from Kalos, where an instructor named Burt used the Socratic method to walk trainees through assembling Unistrut by hand. Stories like the blower-wheel, set-screw lesson — where students learn far more by struggling through a mistake than by hearing the right answer recited to them — reinforce the episode's larger argument: hands-on repetition simply cannot be replaced by slides or scripts.
    The episode closes on the mission of the GRIT Foundation and the broader case for investing in human mentors rather than administrative shortcuts. Ty and Bryan talk about the cost and effort behind genuinely human-made training videos from creators like Craig Migliaccio and SkillCat, contrasting that investment with how easily AI could fake the same content for far less. Bryan shares a personal story about teaching basic electrical work in Haiti and the unforgettable reaction of an elderly student who lit up the moment her circuit worked, while Ty reflects on the mentors who shaped his own career. Both agree that AI can support trades education, but it can never substitute for a person who genuinely cares whether someone learns.
    Topics Covered
    Why trades education is fundamentally about people, not the transfer of information
    Where AI genuinely helps: grammar and tone, reassembling ideas, image editing, and basic legal or HR research
    The line Ty draws — using AI to assist a person is fine, using it to replace one is not
    The risk of AI confidently presenting false information, and why everything still has to be fact-checked
    Bryan's "AI human sandwich" framework for using the tool responsibly
    Ty's long-running critique of PowerPoint-heavy training and how AI avatars make the problem worse
    Classroom stories: getting written up for skipping a PowerPoint, the blower-wheel set-screw lesson, and Bert's Socratic-method exercise with Unistrut at Kalos
    The GRIT Foundation's commitment to hands-on, mentor-led learning over app-based or AI-generated content
    The human effort behind training videos from creators like Craig Migliaccio and SkillCat
    Personal mentorship stories, including a memorable lesson in Haiti and the mentors who shaped both guests' careers

     
    Learn more about the GRIT Foundation at https://www.thegritfoundation.com/. 
    Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.
    Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 8th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium.
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    Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android.
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    Q&A System Oversizing - Short #291

    23/06/2026 | 9 mins.
    In this short Q&A podcast episode, Bryan answers a question from Evan, a licensed mold assessment consultant, about system oversizing: What can be done when an HVAC system is oversized to control humidity and keep occupants comfortable?
    The extent of the problem will depend on how badly the equipment is oversized, whether it has any turn-down or staging, and how the latent capacity is set up. To make the equipment work as best as it can, reducing the airflow to about 350 CFM per ton can help, as well as properly setting up dehumidification modes. The downside to slower airflow is a likely increase in cabinet and duct sweating.
    In brand-new houses, it may be possible to swap the condenser (though it may be unlikely with the recent refrigerant change) and then drop airflow at the air handler. You can use AHRI's data to look for a possible match and then check the manufacturer's expanded performance data to verify whether a new condenser is a match. 
    It's also possible to decouple the latent and sensible loads by installing a dehumidifier. However, completely decoupling the loads is not always practical, as a properly-sized HVAC system is the main source of dehumidification (and the dehumidifier fills in the gaps). Dehumidifiers need to be installed properly (with the supply ducted into the supply duct). 
    Intentionally derating the equipment's cooling capacity, such as via reheat, will turn it into a better dehumidifier, but you're still adding sensible BTUs and need to be aware of the consequences of that, including higher power bills. You can use electric reheat, remove insulation, or remove shades from windows. Using a smaller compressor until the system can be replaced and downsized would achieve a similar effect but comes with other negative consequences.
    Right-sizing equipment, load-matching, and managing air movement and heat transfer are ultimately the keys to preventing moisture problems.
     
    Have a question that you want us to answer on the podcast? Submit your questions at https://www.speakpipe.com/hvacschool.
    Purchase your tickets or learn more about the 8th Annual HVACR Training Symposium at https://hvacrschool.com/symposium.
    Subscribe to our podcast on your iPhone or Android.
    Subscribe to our YouTube channel.
    Check out our handy calculators here or on the HVAC School Mobile App for Apple and Android.
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