The Pomp Podcast

Jordi Visser is a veteran macro investor with over 30 years of market experience and the author of VisserLabs Substack. In this episode, we break down what’s happening in software stocks, credit markets, and bitcoin — including how bitcoin could benefit in both inflationary and deflationary environments. We also explore real-world AI adoption, capital shifts, and a few surprising insights Jordi didn’t see coming.
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0:00 - Intro
0:51 - Breaking down deflation & macro environment 
5:49 - Why deflation pushes money into scarce assets
12:40 - Software stocks, AI, & multiple compression
18:45 - Why public companies may disappear
20:35 - Tokenization, RWAs, & on-chain markets
25:45 - What “agent swarms” actually are & security risks 
38:42 - AI apps anyone can build & how to use AI
40:48 - Private credit stress & Blue Owl
49:45 - What Jordi is covering next

Anthony Scaramucci is the founder and managing partner of SkyBridge Capital and a longtime macro investor at the intersection of traditional finance, crypto, and politics. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, Scaramucci shares his candid views on Trump, crypto regulation, why the Clarity Act is critical for the industry, SkyBridge’s shift toward bitcoin, his early role in the BlackRock Bitcoin ETF, and why progress in Washington requires compromise. He also explains how demographics, regulation, and capital allocation shape bitcoin’s long-term future.
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As markets shift, headlines break, and interest rates swing, one thing stays true — opportunity is everywhere. At Arch Public, we help you do more than just buy and hold. Yes, our dynamic accumulation algorithms are built for long-term investors… but where we really shine? Our arbitrage algos — designed to farm volatility and turbocharge your core positions. The best part of Arch Public’s products is they are free! Yes, you heard that right, try Arch Public for free! Take advantage of wild moves in assets like $SOL, $SUI, and $DOGE, and use them to stack more Bitcoin — completely hands-free. Arch Public is already a preferred partner with Coinbase, Kraken, Gemini, and Robinhood, and our team is here to help you build smarter in any market. Visit Arch Public today, at ⁠https://www.archpublic.com⁠, your portfolio will thank you.
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0:00 - Intro
0:20 - Trump, politics & crypto context
4:12 - Why crypto regulation will pass
7:45 - Inside the BlackRock bitcoin ETF origin story
11:52 - SkyBridge’s pivot to bitcoin 
18:17 - Biggest risk to bitcoin: demographics & old money
20:38 - Scaramucci’s politics podcast & final thoughts

Grant Cardone is a real estate investor and founder of Cardone Capital. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, Grant explains how he pairs cash-flowing real estate with bitcoin, why he stacks bitcoin on top of discounted properties, and how that approach attracted traditional real estate investors to bitcoin. We also discuss his views on cash flow, long-term conviction, avoiding stocks and gold, and why combining legacy assets with new monetary technology creates a powerful investment framework.
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This podcast is sponsored by Abra.com. Abra is the secure way to access crypto and crypto based yield and loan products through a separately managed account structure.
Learn more at http://www.abra.com.
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As markets shift, headlines break, and interest rates swing, one thing stays true — opportunity is everywhere. At Arch Public, we help you do more than just buy and hold. Yes, our dynamic accumulation algorithms are built for long-term investors… but where we really shine? Our arbitrage algos — designed to farm volatility and turbocharge your core positions. The best part of Arch Public’s products is they are free! Yes, you heard that right, try Arch Public for free! Take advantage of wild moves in assets like $SOL, $SUI, and $DOGE, and use them to stack more Bitcoin — completely hands-free. Arch Public is already a preferred partner with Coinbase, Kraken, Gemini, and Robinhood, and our team is here to help you build smarter in any market. Visit Arch Public today, at https://www.archpublic.com, your portfolio will thank you.
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0:00 - Intro
0:17 - Grant’s portfolio, cash flow, & scale
3:41 - Why he started combining real estate with bitcoin
13:58 - The REIT “glitch” — why institutions can’t hold bitcoin
17:00 - What bitcoiners get wrong when talking to investors
20:53 - Why he avoids stocks & paper assets

Mike Novogratz is a veteran macro investor and the founder & CEO of Galaxy. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this conversation, Mike shares why investing has become far more complex, how the dollar’s role as a global reserve currency may be shifting, and what that means for bitcoin, gold, and global markets. We also cover bitcoin’s recent pullback, regulation and ETFs, and why AI, energy, and tokenization could define the next market cycle.
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0:00 - Intro
0:24 - Why the investing game just got harder
5:40 - Is the U.S. losing reserve currency status?
8:37 - AI, productivity, & why inflation may stay low
11:25 - Is Bitcoin actually “not working”?
13:24 - Regulation, Wall Street, & Bitcoin’s next narrative
20:59 - AI, power, & the future of Galaxy
26:16 - Mike’s fantasy football league

Lyn Alden is a macro strategist and one of the most respected independent voices in global markets. This conversation was recorded live at Bitcoin Investor Week in New York. In this discussion, Lyn explains why deflationary forces may outweigh inflation risks, how AI-driven productivity is reshaping the economy, and why traditional macro signals are breaking down. We also explore energy’s role in controlling inflation, the divergence between gold and bitcoin, and what it all means for long-term investors.
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Arch Public is an agentic trading platform that automates the buying and selling of your preferred crypto strategies. Sign up today at https://www.archpublic.com and start your automated trading strategy for free. No catch. No hidden fees. Just smarter trading.
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Simple Mining makes Bitcoin mining simple and accessible for everyone. We offer a premium white glove hosting service, helping you maximize the profitability of Bitcoin mining. For more information on Simple Mining or to get started mining Bitcoin, visit https://www.simplemining.io/
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0:00 - Intro
0:23 - Inflation vs deflation: what macro regime are we in?
2:28 – Money printing, productivity, & hidden deflation
5:17 – Gold vs Bitcoin: why gold is outperforming
7:59 – Why retail hasn’t bought bitcoin this cycle
12:05 – Bitcoin vs stablecoins and capital flows
14:34 – AI, jobs, & deflationary pressure
17:12 – Will deflation force more money printing?
19:08 – High growth without inflation: is it possible?