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Let's Talk Dog Business

Jo & Vicky
Let's Talk Dog Business
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  • Let's Talk Dog Business

    Get Found, Heard and Hired: Writing for Your Dog Training Business (Copywriting) with Rikki Sullivan

    30/06/2026 | 1h 15 mins.
    Most force-free trainers feel like accidental business owners and reluctant marketers - brilliant with dogs, but suddenly expected to be marketers, salespeople, and content creators. Add AI into the mix and it can feel impossible to stand out without selling your soul.  

    Today, we are joined by Ricky Sullivan, The Canine Copywriter. She helps dog trainers get crystal clear on what they offer, who it’s for, and writes the content for their website, emails, and other marketing. Content that makes the right people’s ears perk up and tempts them to get out their credit cards.

    We discuss why creating ethical, human copy is essential and how to do it and improve your visibility without having to live on social media. As well as how to use AI in a way that ensures you still sound like you.

    KEY TAKEAWAYS


    Copywriting is all about using the right words. Words that catch the attention of the right people and demonstrate to them that you are the person who genuinely can help them to train their dog and provide them with relief.


    Jargon-heavy copy that reads like you are trying to prove how much you know, instantly turns people off. Their eyes roll, they think "what the hell does that mean or that sound soooo complicated." - then click away. 


    Pet owners want a human they can relate to and understand. Someone they know will truly solve their problem.  


    Be honest about what your offer. The more genuine you are the more you will attract clients you can help and the more likely it is you will please them and attract good reviews.


    If you think you are not a good fit, don´t work with that client.


    Pick marketing methods that work for you. If you don´t like writing, produce your content by talking instead.


    Using social media is optional, staying consistently visible isn’t.


    Generic, identical AI images and content erode trust and stop you standing out.  

    BEST MOMENTS

    “Copywriting is writing words, but words for marketing. Words that are designed to persuade.”

    “You just cannot stand out if everybody's stuff sounds exactly the same, and everybody's images are AI generated.”

    “It's a fine line between understanding what people need to hear and not using their pain points against them.”

    “Most force-free dog trainers didn't get into being a dog trainer because they wanted to be on social media.”

    “Don't over complicate it, just be yourself, just show up, talk about what you care about, talk about how you can help people.”

    ABOUT THE GUEST

    https://thecaninecopywriter.co.uk/

    https://www.facebook.com/thecaninecopywriter

    https://www.instagram.com/thecaninecopywriter/

    SOCIALS AND IMPORTANT LINKS

    https://www.tiktok.com/@letstalkdogbusiness

    https://www.youtube.com/@LetsTalkDogBusiness

    Website www.caninebusinessacademy.com

    Community Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/caninebusinessacademycommunity

    Let´s Talk Dog Business Strategy Book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lets-Talk-Dog-Business-Strategy/dp/1068791705

    Email: hello@caninebusinessacademy.com

    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Jo Moorcroft and Vicky Davies are dog behaviourists, business strategists, and co-founders of Canine Business Academy—the UK’s go-to hub for dog professionals who want more than just a logo and a dream.With a combined passion for dogs and business done properly, Jo and Vicky have helped hundreds of canine professionals build sustainable, profitable businesses rooted in real impact.🏆 Their award-winning work has earned recognition including:– UK StartUp Awards: Business to Business (Midlands)– Small Business Awards UK: Most Innovative Small Business 2025– Business Awards UK: Most Innovative Pet Product 2024– Plus shortlists at the Women in Business and Great British Businesswoman AwardsThey’re also No.1 bestselling authors of Let’s Talk Dog Business Strategy, featured on BBC Radio, FOX, NBC, and more—with 63,000+ downloads of this very podcast.Their philosophy is simple:Give a shit. Get shit done. Get results.

    This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
  • Let's Talk Dog Business

    Beyond Six-Week Courses: Dog Training That Actually Lands and Works Long-Term

    23/06/2026 | 44 mins.
    Most dog trainers are still using a 90s-style model: six-week courses, one-off sessions, and long gaps between classes. A model that rarely works in today´s crazy busy world that is full of highly distracted and already over-stretched clients. They can´t take in and apply what you teach and training their dog tends to slip down their to-do list. Leaving you and them very frustrated.

    In this episode, we explain that owners don’t want to have to become mini-dog trainers, they want simple methods that work. That needs long-term support, repetition, patience from you and  asking better questions. That creates calmer clients, stronger relationships, and results that actually stick.

    KEY TAKEAWAYS


    A 90s‑style pick‑and‑mix of one‑off sessions and short courses no longer works. When owners only get you in tiny snippets, it’s hard for them to build new habits and see lasting change, especially with puppies.


    Clients are not short on information, they’re short on capacity. Kids, jobs, stress and 10,000 daily ads and messages eat their bandwidth. They can’t absorb and implement everything you say.


    Judging clients e.g. thinking “they shouldn’t have a dog” shuts down your ability to help them. Even if you are careful to say nothing directly to them, they will still pick up on your disapproval. How you feel leaks out in subtle ways. 


    Take note of your frustration or issues with people and work to put things into perspective. Ask - What might be going on in their life that I don’t see yet?


    Respectfully talk to your clients to uncover the underlying issues that are holding them back. 


    Sounding like a broken record can be frustrating, but if you don´t you can´t break through all of the other noise.


    Build repeated explanations, reminders and check‑ins into your course or sessions.


    Longer‑term, relationship‑based support makes it easier for both sides. You get time to really understand the client and adapt how you help; they get space to be honest, try, wobble, and come back without feeling like a bad owner.

    BEST MOMENTS

    “It's more human connection now.”

    “You'll see more of that person, and they will let you in more into what's going into their lives, and it will allow you to be more empathetic.”

    “You need to sound like a broken record… If they've only heard it one time, they're not going to retain it.”

    You've got to come CBA Live, 9th and 10th of July, Solihull – Just book here - https://www.caninebusinessacademy.com/cba-live-2026

    SOCIALS AND IMPORTANT LINKS

    https://www.tiktok.com/@letstalkdogbusiness

    https://www.youtube.com/@LetsTalkDogBusiness

    Website www.caninebusinessacademy.com

    Community Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/caninebusinessacademycommunity

    Let´s Talk Dog Business Strategy Book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lets-Talk-Dog-Business-Strategy/dp/1068791705

    Email: hello@caninebusinessacademy.com

    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Jo Moorcroft and Vicky Davies are dog behaviourists, business strategists, and co-founders of Canine Business Academy—the UK’s go-to hub for dog professionals who want more than just a logo and a dream.With a combined passion for dogs and business done properly, Jo and Vicky have helped hundreds of canine professionals build sustainable, profitable businesses rooted in real impact.🏆 Their award-winning work has earned recognition including:– UK StartUp Awards: Business to Business (Midlands)– Small Business Awards UK: Most Innovative Small Business 2025– Business Awards UK: Most Innovative Pet Product 2024– Plus shortlists at the Women in Business and Great British Businesswoman AwardsThey’re also No.1 bestselling authors of Let’s Talk Dog Business Strategy, featured on BBC Radio, FOX, NBC, and more—with 63,000+ downloads of this very podcast.Their philosophy is simple:Give a shit. Get shit done. Get results.

    This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
  • Let's Talk Dog Business

    Juggling a Messy Life While Running Your Dog Training Business

    16/06/2026 | 50 mins.
    If your normalcy, is juggling dogs, clients, kids, partners, piles of washing, dozens of undone chores, and a brain with 47 tabs open, this episode is for you. It is all about the reality of running a dog business while looking after family and dealing with a long list of other responsibilities outside of work.

    We talk openly about those rock‑bottom moments where you wonder if it would be easier to just go back to being “normal,” identity crisis, handling grief and being overstretched. You’ll hear how to simplify your business, prioritise tasks and surround yourself with a community of people that provide the support you need instead of inadvertently making things worse.

    KEY TAKEAWAYS


    Feeling overwhelmed by life and work doesn’t mean you’re not cut out to run a business,  it means you’re human.


    Developing a rinse‑and‑repeat business model frees up headspace and time. 


    Discomfort is part of growth.


    The right mentor stop your overthinking. They help you see where you are making things harder than they need to be.


    Who you surround yourself with massively affects your belief in what’s possible and how hard everything feels.  


    When you feel fear or overwhelm spike about money, clients, big decisions or other things, pause, and say, “This is my brain trying to keep me safe.” Then ask: "If fear wasn’t driving this, what would I choose?"  


    Periodically, audit your business for tabs that don´t need to be open and plates you no longer need to keep spinning. List out everything you’re trying to do, decide what actually moves the needle and what can be parked.


    For regularly repeated tasks, develop simple rinse and repeat processes, and follow them.

    BEST MOMENTS

    “How often, do you feel you've just got too many tabs open in your head, or you're spinning too many plates?”

    “Life is busy, life is short, so actually spend it with people you love. Spend it with people that are going to encourage you.”

    “Often, we are afraid to put ourselves first.”

    “What thoughts are yours, and what are other people's that have infiltrated your brain?”

    If you’ve not grabbed your CBA Live ticket yet, get your arse in gear and sort it here:https://www.caninebusinessacademy.com/cba-live-2026/

    Across two days we cover everything we’ve talked about in this episode (and a lot more): real-life business stories, mindset, money, systems, and strategies you can actually use. 

    You’ll connect with other force-free trainers, and you’ll have the chance to join the CBA community full-time so you’re not left doing this on your own.

    CBA Live is the business event for force-free dog trainers and behaviourists.

    SOCIALS AND IMPORTANT LINKS

    https://www.tiktok.com/@letstalkdogbusiness

    https://www.youtube.com/@LetsTalkDogBusiness

    www.caninebusinessacademy.com

    https://www.facebook.com/groups/caninebusinessacademycommunity

    Let´s Talk Dog Business Strategy Book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lets-Talk-Dog-Business-Strategy/dp/1068791705

    Email: hello@caninebusinessacademy.com

    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Jo Moorcroft and Vicky Davies are dog behaviourists, business strategists, and co-founders of Canine Business Academy—the UK’s go-to hub for dog professionals who want more than just a logo and a dream. With a combined passion for dogs and business done properly, Jo and Vicky have helped hundreds of canine professionals build sustainable, profitable businesses rooted in real impact. Their award-winning work has earned recognition including:– UK StartUp Awards: Business to Business (Midlands)– Small Business Awards UK: Most Innovative Small Business 2025– Business Awards UK: Most Innovative Pet Product 2024– Plus shortlists at the Women in Business and Great British Businesswoman Awards They’re also No.1 bestselling authors of Let’s Talk Dog Business Strategy, featured on BBC Radio, FOX, NBC, and more—with 63,000+ downloads of this very podcast. Their philosophy is simple: Give a shit. Get shit done. Get results.

    This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
  • Let's Talk Dog Business

    From Invisible to InDemand: Human-Centred Marketing for Force Free Trainers with Josh Boutelle

    09/06/2026 | 1h 2 mins.
    Treat visibility as relationship-building, not just posting. Local vets, rescues and pet businesses, plus simple authority videos that reframe common problems, often move the needle faster than another generic reel.
    Put basic systems in place so every enquiry gets a fast reply, undecided leads are followed up automatically, and review requests go out without you having to remember a single sticky note. The faster you reply the more likely you will be booked.

    BEST MOMENTS

    “If it's not resonating with the audience… that nice (website) design isn't going to go very far.”

    “We're not actually in the business of dogs; we're in the business of people.”

    “I've landed on this website, I'm in the right place, I'm hearing words that relate to me, and I'm already feeling a weight lifting off my shoulders.”

    “I definitely don't think a new dog trainer needs to go spend $10,000 or even $1,000 on a website … just a simple web page to start.”

    “I think it's a massive risk relying on the safe route of not putting yourself out there.”

    ABOUT THE GUEST
    https://digiwoof.com
    Socials - @digiwoof

    SOCIALS AND IMPORTANT LINKS
    https://www.tiktok.com/@letstalkdogbusiness
    https://www.youtube.com/@LetsTalkDogBusiness

    Website www.caninebusinessacademy.com
    Community Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/caninebusinessacademycommunity

    Let´s Talk Dog Business Strategy Book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lets-Talk-Dog-Business-Strategy/dp/1068791705

    Email: hello@caninebusinessacademy.com

    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Jo Moorcroft and Vicky Davies are dog behaviourists, business strategists, and co-founders of Canine Business Academy—the UK’s go-to hub for dog professionals who want more than just a logo and a dream.

    With a combined passion for dogs and business done properly, Jo and Vicky have helped hundreds of canine professionals build sustainable, profitable businesses rooted in real impact.

    🏆 Their award-winning work has earned recognition including:
    – UK StartUp Awards: Business to Business (Midlands)
    – Small Business Awards UK: Most Innovative Small Business 2025
    – Business Awards UK: Most Innovative Pet Product 2024
    – Plus shortlists at the Women in Business and Great British Businesswoman Awards

    They’re also No.1 bestselling authors of Let’s Talk Dog Business Strategy, featured on BBC Radio, FOX, NBC, and more—with 63,000+ downloads of this very podcast.

    Their philosophy is simple:
    Give a shit. Get shit done. Get results.

    This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
  • Let's Talk Dog Business

    Get Back On Track By Getting Radically Honest About Why You are Running Your Dog Business

    02/06/2026 | 39 mins.
    Most dog trainers didn’t become self‑employed because they craved spreadsheets, tax returns, and late‑night admin. They started because they loved dogs, loved learning, and wanted to do something that wasn´t soul sucking.  

    Fast forward a few years and many are burnt out, under‑earning, and stuck in limbo – half in, half out – between a “proper job” that is pure drudgery and a dog business they don’t fully trust to support them.

    In this episode, we strip back the glossy story and talk honestly about why you’re in business, how you got here (accidentally or intentionally), and why that is important. We discuss how to keep going when things get hard. You’ll hear our real stories of turning down safe promotions, taking redundancy, leaving big salaries, and redefining purpose after grief and major life events. Including, the ripple effect those decisions had on family, money, self-belief, and our entrepreneurial lives.

    KEY TAKEAWAYS


    How your business started shapes your mindset and expectations of what you can achieve.  


    Many trainers stay in “safe” jobs they hate because they don’t fully trust the business model or themselves to make it work financially.  


    Tough life events often act as forced turning points that push you to finally say, “there is no good time – I’m doing it anyway.  


    There’s a difference between the motivation to start and the motivation to continue and work your way through the drudgery.


    If you’re constantly moaning about enquiries, clients, or cash, you eventually have to stop the moaning and change how you run your business.


    What do you want your life to look like? – that is your first question, answer that question and change things to make it happen.

    BEST MOMENTS

    “What's the blocker here? Why are lots of people struggling to get those brilliant results?”

    “I love that transformation; I love people getting brilliant results.”

    “All the stuff that we're moaning about, all the things that we find difficult. What are we doing about it?”

    “What is your motivation when it's hard, what's keeping you going? Where do you want to go with it? Where do you want your life to be?”

    EPISODE RESOURCES

    The Judgy Carrott episode - https://podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/how-to-stop-unintentionally-telling-prospective-clients/id1727170978?i=1000768641524

    SOCIALS AND IMPORTANT LINKS

    https://www.tiktok.com/@letstalkdogbusiness

    https://www.youtube.com/@LetsTalkDogBusiness

    Website www.caninebusinessacademy.com

    Community Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/caninebusinessacademycommunity

    Let´s Talk Dog Business Strategy Book - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lets-Talk-Dog-Business-Strategy/dp/1068791705

    Email: hello@caninebusinessacademy.com

    ABOUT THE HOSTS

    Jo Moorcroft and Vicky Davies are dog behaviourists, business strategists, and co-founders of Canine Business Academy—the UK’s go-to hub for dog professionals who want more than just a logo and a dream.With a combined passion for dogs and business done properly, Jo and Vicky have helped hundreds of canine professionals build sustainable, profitable businesses rooted in real impact.🏆 Their award-winning work has earned recognition including:– UK StartUp Awards: Business to Business (Midlands)– Small Business Awards UK: Most Innovative Small Business 2025– Business Awards UK: Most Innovative Pet Product 2024– Plus shortlists at the Women in Business and Great British Businesswoman AwardsThey’re also No.1 bestselling authors of Let’s Talk Dog Business Strategy, featured on BBC Radio, FOX, NBC, and more—with 63,000+ downloads of this very podcast.Their philosophy is simple:Give a shit. Get shit done. Get results.

    This Podcast has been brought to you by Disruptive Media. https://disruptivemedia.co.uk/
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About Let's Talk Dog Business
Let’s Talk Dog Business is the No.1 Apple podcast for dog trainers, behaviourists, and canine professionals who are ready to stop scratting around and start building a profitable, sustainable dog business that works for you as well as your clients. Hosted by Jo and Vicky—canine business mentors who’ve been in the trenches and built thriving dog training brands themselves—this podcast is your no-nonsense guide to pricing with confidence, marketing without burnout, shifting your mindset, and creating a business that actually supports your life (not just your clients’). Let’s Talk Dog Business is packed with straight-talking, actionable episodes on what it really takes to grow and scale in the pet industry, without selling your soul to social media or working 24/7. If you’re a dog pro who’s serious about success—this is the podcast we wish we had when we started.
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