Lizness School

Today Liz Dolan interviews Phil Pizzo, the founder of Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute, a deep thinker on transitions and lifelong learning. His career has taken him from pioneering pediatric oncologist to Dean of Stanford Medical School to rabbinical studies and chaplaincy training. He is a man who thinks a LOT about doing things differently.

Sponsor:
Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union.
To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

HOMEWORK:
More on Phil Pizzo, his work and his contributions:
The Doctor’s Art podcast: An episode called Courage and Curiosity Discussion of what drew him to medicine in the first place with more about his work caring for seriously ill children and his pioneering work at the National Cancer Institute.
Stanford Daily: Phil Pizzo moves from Stanford Medical School to rabbinical studies https://stanforddaily.com/2022/04/10/from-stanford-to-the-rabbinate-phil-pizzo-moving-on/
The Atlantic The New Old Age by David Brooks. What a new life stage can teach us about how to find meaning and purpose.

Corrected book title from last episode:
Turn Right at Machu Picchu: Rediscovering The Lost City One Step At A Time from 2021.
A fascinating and funny account of a journalist's travels through some of the world’s most majestic, historic, and remote landscapes.

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.
Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.
To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.
For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠
For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠
Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠
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Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn.
To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]
The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠
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Wellness. At Lizness School that means health + fun. Liz and Leah both have wellness goals this year that include training for a big event. On today's first ever wellness episode, specific training plans are put in place. First Leah, an ultra runner and certified trainer herself, gives Liz her plan from now until September to be ready for physical activity at altitude in Peru with her Stanford DCI classmates. Then Leah lays out her own goals for the LA Marathon in March, her first race since she moved to Nashville.
Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness .
Homework:
Read a good book about Macchu Picchu. That's Turn Right at Macchu Picchu: Rediscovering The Lost City One Step At A Time by travel writer Mark Adams. What happens when an adventure travel expert-who's never actually done anything adventurous-tries to re-create the original expedition to Machu Picchu?
Suggest a good book about Peru and the Incas. Send liz any suggestions for some good reading before the Peru trip. Email us at [email protected]
Listen to Dr. Zeke Emanuel talk about his new wellness book where he stresses the importance of social connection and interaction along with all the other usual stuff. Here's a good extended interview about "Eat Your Ice Cream: Six Simple Rules for a Long and Healthy Life," on CBS Sunday https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RsoVhSks35U.
Here's a link to the book.

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.
Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.
To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.
For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠
For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠
Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠
On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.
Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn.
To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]
The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today's episode starts with a conversation with John Evans, a Lecturer in Nonfiction in the Creative Writing Department at Stanford University. John was Liz's memoir writing teacher during her year as a Fellow in Stanford's Distinguished Careers Institute. Their conversation is about why people get interested in memoir writing and why being in a memoir writing group can be so meaningful. John leads groups and workshops through Memoir Mentors His two published memoirs are Young Widower: A Memoir (University of Nebraska Press, 2014), and Should I Still Wish: A Memoir. (University of Nebraska Press, 2017)
In the second half of the episode, Liz and Leah discuss what they learned about themselves by using The Values Bridge, an assessment tool created by Suzy Welch of the NYU Stern School of Business.

Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

Homework:
More about John's writing: John Evans Author Page

Recommended Memoirs:
Arthur Ashe, Days of Grace: A Memoir. Arthur Ashe's poignant memoir was co-written with Arnold Rampersad and published posthumously in 1993.
Katherine Graham, Personal History. Pulitzer Prize 1998. The fascinating story of the woman who changed American history running The Washington Post.
Michelle Zauner, Crying In H Mart. A 2021 memoir by Zauner of the band Japanese Breakfast about her Korean-American family and identity.

Other recommendations from John Evan’s syllabus:
Dani Shapiro, Inheritance
Annie Dillard, Living Like Weasels
Samuel Wilson Fussell, Muscle - Confessions of an Unlikely Bodybuiilder

The Values Bridge:
Suzy Welch Becoming You book and newsletter.
Assessment Tool developed by Suzy Welch: The Values Bridge

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.
Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.
To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.
For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠
For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠
Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠
On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.
Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn.
To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]
The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

On today's episode, Liz and Leah review the goals they each set at the beginning of the school year. BUT FIRST, a listener supplies our searched-for alternative word for retirement. Tune in to hear it.
At the end of the episode, we have an assignment for listeners to execute over the holiday break. Our first episode in 2026 will include our experience taking Suzy Welch's Values Bridge Assessment. You can do it too. take it here.
We'll be back on January 8th to discuss the Values Bridge and interview Stanford Memoir Writing teacher John Evans.

Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.
Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.
To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.
For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠
For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠
Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠
On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.
Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn.
To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]
The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠

See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Today's episode is inspired by a letter we received from listener Laura Tiberi asking us to consider how life choices can be different for "those who are faced with significant transitions as a result of medical illness or injury." Laura was "retired by leukemia", has experienced two stem cell transplants and "is 3 1/2 years old in transplant years."
We speak to Kira Dales, a fellow Fellow of Liz's at Stanford last year, who tells us of her life since a brain tumor and stroke. Her story includes physical, communication, cognitive and emotional recovery over the last 6 years.
Kira Dales on Stanford DCI site and LinkedIn.
Homework:
Kira recommends Between Two Kingdoms: A Memoir Of A Life Interrupted by Suleika Jaouad.
Here is Suleika Jaouad's substack Creative Alchemy: The Isolation Journals.
Here is an interview on CBS Sunday Morning with Suleika Jaouad and her husband Jon Batiste.

Welcome to our new sponsor Stanford Federal Credit Union. To use their $620 New Member offer, go to sfcu.org/lizness

If you are new to Lizness School, we suggest you listen to Season 1 to hear all about Liz's year as a Stanford Fellow. Everything from Neuroscience and Chinese History to Pickleball! Plus a great community experience with her fellow DCI Fellows.
Season 2 is about how she puts her lessons to work in the wild with the help of her millennial mentor Leah Sutherland.
To listen to Liz +. Leah's recap of Lizness School Season 1, go to our FINALE here.
For more on Liz Dolan, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠
For more on Liz's work in podcasting, go to ⁠⁠⁠⁠Satellite Sisters⁠⁠⁠⁠
Follow Lizness School on all podcasting platforms including ⁠⁠⁠⁠Apple Podcasts⁠⁠⁠⁠ and ⁠⁠⁠⁠Spotify.⁠⁠⁠⁠
On Instagram, follow the show at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/liznessschool/⁠⁠⁠⁠ and follow Liz at ⁠⁠⁠⁠https://www.instagram.com/satellitesisterliz/⁠⁠⁠⁠.
Follow Producer and Millennial Mentor Leah Sutherland @leahhsutherlandd on Instagram and Leah Sutherland on LinkedIn.
To email Lizness School with your own voice memos/questions/thoughts/suggestions for Liz or Leah, use ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected]
The Distinguished Careers Institute is a unique program for late career people. Fellows are graduate students at Stanford University, able to take classes in any area. ⁠⁠⁠⁠Complete information here.⁠⁠⁠⁠
Email the podcast ⁠⁠⁠⁠[email protected] ⁠
See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.