The Gary Zukav Deepcast

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In this DeepCast, Gary Zukav explores one of the most profound dimensions of Authentic Power: how we relate to the children in our lives. Gary invites us to see them not merely as developing personalities or "small" versions of ourselves, but as immortal souls on their own unique journey through the Earth School. Drawing on the perspective of the new consciousness, he reframes parenthood and every interaction with a child as a sacred opportunity to practice conscious, soul-centered love.

At the heart of this episode lies a powerful distinction: when we see children only through the lens of their physical bodies and undeveloped minds, we miss the reality of who they truly are. Children do not simply emerge from the womb - they arrive from eternity, carrying the full creative power and accumulated experience of souls that have incarnated many times before. Recognizing that your child is an ancient soul changes everything about the way you relate to them.

Gary illuminates how every interaction with a child - whether it is born of reverence or impatience, consciousness or reaction - creates karma. The intention behind each moment - Love or Fear - shapes not only the child's experience but the parent's own spiritual evolution. This is an invitation to move beyond control and into Spiritual Partnership with the ancient souls we call our children.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:

(03:04) — Gary explores the special relationship parents share with their children and how understanding the soul dimension transforms the way we connect with even the youngest, most vulnerable personalities in the Earth School.

(05:53) — Gary reflects on his time at the Council Grove Conference and introduces the work of Gladys McGarry, MD - a physician and midwife whose research documented pre-birth communications between mothers and children, revealing that the soul-to-soul bond begins long before birth.

(12:12) — Gary explains how every interaction with a child creates karma: when the intention behind a moment is fear, impatience, anger, or the desire for silence - it generates painful, contracting consequences; when it is love, it creates growth, wholeness, and genuine connection.

(18:01) — Gary describes what it means to relate soul to personality: how parents with the new consciousness can offer children the lived experience of love, harmony, cooperation, and reverence for life - even before the child can articulate or fully reciprocate it.

Embrace the Soul Step Challenge

Take out your notebook and write down anything that moved you as you listened to this DeepCast - anything you responded to with love or reacted to with fear. At the end of the day, and in the days that follow, revisit what you've written. Notice where love was present and where fear took hold. Ask yourself what each reaction reveals about the parts of your personality that are still growing. That awareness, honestly applied, is where spiritual growth begins.

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In this episode, Gary Zukav and Linda Francis explore the concept of freestyling as a powerful metaphor for living authentically. Drawing from the world of sports - skiing, snowboarding, and gymnastics - Gary illuminates how the greatest athletes broke free from rigid conventions to create entirely new categories of movement. That same liberation, he teaches, is available to every person willing to move beyond the narrow expectations set by the frightened parts of their personality.

Gary explains that the frightened parts of the personality are what define the parameters - the narrow band of what feels "acceptable" in life. Whether in writing, relationships, or personal ambition, those fear-based limitations keep people performing the same routines. But when a person chooses to act from a loving part of their personality instead, they step into a domain that is entirely new, self-defined, and free.

Creating authentic power is the ultimate freestyle. It is the practice of not being controlled by fear in the pursuit of external power and instead following the call of the heart and soul - even when that direction is subtle, uncertain, or not yet fully understood.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:


(00:00) — How elite athletes in freestyle sports broke the rules of their disciplines and why that same courage applies to the creation of Authentic Power in the Earth School.


(01:34) — Why the frightened parts of the personality set the parameters - and what happens when you make the Responsible Choice to act from a loving part of your personality instead.


(02:11) — Gary shares how his own writing process changed when he released the pursuit of external power (writing what he thought "should" be written) and instead followed where the energy of his Soul's intention led.


(03:00) — The difference between the pursuit of external power (money, status, sex) and the creation of Authentic Power - following what your heart is genuinely calling you toward.


(03:25) — Gary's personal story of recognizing the frequency of Linda Francis the moment she arrived, and how that subtle but undeniable signal from the Soul led to thirty years of Spiritual Partnership.


(04:33) — A reflection on Visual 31: which of the five figures represents your personality today - and which one represented you yesterday as you navigate the Earth School?

Embrace the Soul Step Challenge

Take a moment to reflect on the areas of your life where the frightened parts of your personality have been setting the parameters. Where have you been staying inside the narrow band of what feels "acceptable" - in your relationships, your work, your creativity, or your goals? Ask yourself: What would I do if I were freestyling? What direction is your heart calling you toward that you have been hesitant to follow? Pause with that question today, and notice what arises.

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In this deeply moving continuation, Gary Zukav and Scarlett Lewis - founder of the Choose Love Movement - explore the interior landscape of Authentic Power: what it truly means to choose love not just as a feeling, but as a conscious act of will in the face of grief, fear, and loss. Together, they trace the path from forgiveness to compassion, and from compassion to personal transformation.

At the center of their exchange is a truth both hard-won and universal: that the frightened parts of our personalities - anger, judgment, resentment, and righteousness - are not enemies to defeat but opportunities for deeper awareness. Scarlett shares how forgiving the individual responsible for the death of her son, Jesse, was not an act of denial, but of liberation- and how that conscious choice led her to feel genuine compassion, and ultimately, love.

Gary illuminates what makes this possible: a new level of consciousness allows us to see that we are not our frightened parts. We can observe them, choose not to be controlled by them, and act from our loving parts - even while fear is still present. That is the exact moment Authentic Power is created.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:


(03:57) — Gary reflects on why he invited Scarlett back: her response to Jesse’s transition demonstrates what it looks like to face the frightened parts of the personality and choose love over judgment.


(14:36) — Scarlett shares the internal process of forgiveness—releasing the charge of an event to move from the pain of the personality into the compassion and love of the Soul.


(19:55) — Gary and Scarlett explore the paradox of Authentic Power: the tools of Emotional Awareness and Responsible Choice are simple, but applying them while fear is active is the most demanding work in the Earth School.


(22:12) — Gary describes the exact moment Authentic Power is created: when you choose to act from a loving part of your personality while simultaneously experiencing the sensations of a frightened part.


(31:55) — Scarlett reflects on approaching painful experiences as a Soul curriculum—turning toward difficulty with curiosity so that it refines, rather than defines, your life.


(38:17) — Scarlett invites listeners to visit ChooseLoveMovement.org to access tools for the next generation, helping children learn the skills of Authentic Power so they meet the world with love instead of fear.

Embrace the Soul Step Challenge

Think of a moment when you felt the pull of a frightened part of your personality - anger, resentment, or the urge to be against something rather than for something. Now ask yourself: what was the loving intention beneath it that you couldn't yet access? The next time a frightened part becomes active, pause before you act or speak. Ask: what would it look like to respond from the part of me that loves? You don't have to feel love first. You only have to choose it.

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A new multisensory consciousness is transforming humanity, and with it comes a pressing question: what kind of power are you really reaching for? In this episode, Gary Zukav explores the internal dynamics of power struggles - what they are, where they originate, and why the impulse to control others is as present in our most intimate relationships as it is in conflicts between nations.

Every power struggle, Gary explains, is rooted in the pursuit of external power - the drive to change, manage, or dominate what exists outside of us. Whether we are clashing with a partner or a roommate, or reaching for a fresh start in a new city, the horizontal path keeps us moving sideways. In the Earth School, we often find that nothing truly changes because we haven't changed the frightened parts of our personality that are driving the conflict.

The vertical path is different. It is the path of spiritual evolution. It invites us to turn inward - to practice Emotional Awareness - and in doing so, to begin aligning our personality with our Soul. This alignment allows us to access the kind of Authentic Power that Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr. brought to bear on the world - a power rooted in love, not in the control of others.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:


(00:43) — The Internal Dynamics of a Power Struggle: Gary defines the core of every power struggle - the pursuit of external power through the impulse to control - and reveals how it operates at every scale, from intimate partnerships to international conflict.


(01:26) — The Horizontal Path and its Limitations: Attempting to find relief by changing partners, circumstances, or cities defines the horizontal path. Without internal change, the same frightened parts of the personality follow us wherever we go in the Earth School.


(01:56) — The Vertical Path: Gary introduces the only path that creates real transformation - the vertical path of spiritual evolution - and connects it to the emergence of Authentic Power.


(02:14) — The Fragility of External Power: For millennia, our species has sought safety through external power - competition, hoarding, and exploitation. Gary explains why this foundation now threatens our survival and the evolution of our consciousness.


(02:54) — The Soul’s Intentions: Harmony, cooperation, sharing, and a reverence for Life are the Soul’s true intentions. Gary describes the creative tension humanity now inhabits as these values begin to emerge from the new consciousness.


(03:27) — Authentic Power in Action: As we align our personality with our Soul, we begin to cultivate the kind of power that moves mountains - the Authentic Power of Gandhi and Martin Luther King Jr., anchored in a life lived from the frequency of love.

Embrace the Soul Step Challenge

This week, notice where power struggles show up in your life - in a disagreement with a partner, a moment of frustration with a colleague, or an urge to change something outside yourself to feel better inside. Pause before choosing the horizontal path. Ask yourself: Am I trying to control, or am I trying to grow? What would it look like to change myself here instead of the situation around me? Each time you choose the vertical path, you take one more step toward Authentic Power.

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In this profound co-creation, Gary Zukav welcomes his first-ever Deepcast guest: Scarlett Lewis, founder of the Choose Love Movement - a global nonprofit now reaching nearly 18,000 schools across 132 countries.

Scarlett shares the internal dynamics behind the movement, born from the experience of her six-year-old son Jesse’s return home on December 14th, 2012. Rather than surrender to the frightened parts of her personality that sought grief or revenge, she found her purpose in three words Jesse had written on the family's kitchen chalkboard shortly before his transition: Nurturing, Healing, Love.

At the heart of Choose Love is a simple but profound truth: hurt people hurt people. Scarlett recognized through direct experience that if the shooter had been able to give and receive nurturing, healing love, the tragedy would never have occurred. That awareness did not produce blame - it produced a mission of the heart.

Gary reflects on Scarlett's journey through the lens of the New Consciousness: what the personality calls a tragedy, the Soul recognizes as an opportunity for evolution - one that has already changed millions of lives and made clear that love is not a feeling to wait for, but a Responsible Choice available in every moment.

What You’ll Discover in This Episode:


(02:06) — The Choose Love Movement: Scarlett introduces the intentional vessel of her global nonprofit and the experience that gave birth to it. She shares how Jesse’s final chalkboard message - Nurturing, Healing, Love - became her life’s mission and the foundation for creating Authentic Power in the next generation.


(07:55) — Refined, Not Defined: Scarlett describes her Responsible Choice following the Sandy Hook transition: the decision to not be defined by the frightened parts of the personality or grief. She chose joy and modeled for her surviving son what it means to be for love rather than against fear.


(11:06) — A Miracle, Not a Tragedy: Gary reframes the events through the lens of multisensory perception. What the five-sensory personality labels a tragedy, the Soul recognizes as a miracle of awakening - one that has seeded a global movement and revealed the reality that love is an available choice in every Choice Moment™.


(19:15) — Global Dissemination: From a farmhouse in Sandy Hook to nearly 18,000 schools, Scarlett discusses the Soul’s intention for this work. The movement’s reach culminated in "Choose Love" appearing in NFL end zones and on helmets at the Super Bowl - a beautiful sign of our collective awakening.


(25:22) — The Gift of Attention: Scarlett shares the experience of sitting with school shooters and asking the question the intellect often avoids: What needs were not met? Their answer - that they didn't feel seen - leads Gary and Scarlett to explore the Reverence required to see the holiness in every Soul we encounter.


(29:50) — There Is No "Out There": Understanding the multisensory reality that there is no separation between the inner and outer worlds. Every choice to move from fear to love ripples across the collective. As Scarlett notes, the change we seek in the Earth School must first be anchored within our own hearts.

Embrace the Soul Step Challenge

Think of someone you recently pulled back from - a stranger, a colleague, someone in the news. What story did your mind tell about them? Now consider: what if that person simply didn't feel seen? The next time you feel yourself contracting, pause and ask: Can I look for the light in this person right now? You don't have to understand them or agree with them. Just choose - for one moment - to see them.

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