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The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast

George Couros
The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast
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  • The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast

    How to spark curiosity in learning - Olivia Odileke

    21/06/2026 | 22 mins.
    What happens when we stop focusing on delivering information and start creating the conditions for curiosity?

    In this episode of The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast, George Couros sits down with educator, instructional coach, and conference founder Olivia Odileke to explore why curiosity may be the most important skill we can cultivate in schools today.

    Olivia shares the inspiration behind the Spark Curiosity EDU Experience, an immersive conference designed to help educators move beyond compliance-driven instruction and create learning experiences that spark thinking, wonder, and engagement. Together, they discuss the role of psychological safety, the difference between retention and learning, the challenges facing modern classrooms, and how educators can rediscover joy and purpose in their work.

    In this conversation, you'll learn:

    • Why curiosity is the foundation for problem-solving, adaptability, persistence, and deeper learning
    • How "discovery before delivery" can transform classroom experiences
    • The importance of psychological safety for both students and educators
    • Why changing student experiences starts with changing adult experiences
    • How AI can support instructional decision-making without replacing human connection
    • Practical strategies educators can use immediately to spark engagement and thinking

    You'll also hear about innovative elements of the Spark Curiosity EDU Experience, including the Spark Wall, Shout-Out Wall, Fearless Educator Radio, and Olivia's Micro-Inquiry Framework.

    Connect with Olivia:
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/olivia-odileke/

    Learn more about the conference:
    https://sparkcuriosityedu.com/

    Questions for Reflection and Conversation:

    What are we doing in our classrooms that sparks curiosity before delivering information?

    How can we create greater psychological safety for both students and educators to take risks and learn?

    Are our students primarily consuming information, or are they actively uncovering and constructing understanding?

    #Curiosity #Education #Teaching #Learning #InstructionalDesign #StudentEngagement #EducationalLeadership #InnovationInEducation #InquiryBasedLearning #TeacherDevelopment #EdChat #AIinEducation #TheInnovatorsMindset #SparkCuriosity #ProfessionalLearning

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    👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset

    🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com

    🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros

    Follow George Couros:
    X: https://x.com/gcouros

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/

    LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519

    📚 Books by George Couros:
    Forward, Together:
    https://a.co/d/99RGvl3

    The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

    What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20

    Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

    Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20

    Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

    Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
  • The Innovator’s Mindset Podcast

    The Easier Technology Gets, the More Challenge Matters - On the latest Jonathan Haidt TED Talk

    18/06/2026 | 18 mins.
    Technology has made so many aspects of our lives easier. We can access information instantly, communicate in seconds, and use powerful AI tools with little training. But as technology removes friction, an important question emerges:

    Are we helping students develop the capacity to do hard things?

    In this episode, I explore ideas sparked by a recent TED Talk from Jonathan Haidt and reflect on the relationship between technology, attention, learning, and personal growth. While technology itself may be easier than ever to use, the work that leads to meaningful growth, deep learning, strong relationships, and thoughtful leadership often requires effort, persistence, and discomfort.

    We discuss:

    • Why learning technology is often easier than learning how to use it wisely
    • The connection between attention, distraction, and meaningful work
    • How convenience can sometimes work against growth and learning
    • Why difficult conversations, deep reading, and thoughtful writing still matter
    • What schools can do to help students embrace challenge rather than avoid it
    • The importance of becoming "techno-curious," balancing both skepticism and wonder

    Questions for Reflection and Conversation

    As technology becomes easier to use, what skills and dispositions become more important for students to develop?

    Where might convenience be helping learning, and where might it be unintentionally limiting growth?

    How can educators create experiences that encourage students to pursue meaningful challenges instead of always choosing the easiest path?

    What is something difficult in your own life that ultimately made you better because you worked through it?

    How do we help students use technology not just efficiently, but purposefully?

    Referenced Blog Post:

    The Easier Technology Gets, the More Challenge Matters
    https://georgecouros.com/the-easier-technology-gets-haidt/

    This episode expands on the ideas shared in the blog and explores why, in a world where technology makes so much easier, helping students develop resilience, curiosity, critical thinking, and a willingness to embrace challenge may be more important than ever.

     

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    👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset

    🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com

    🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros

    Follow George Couros:
    X: https://x.com/gcouros

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/

    LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519

    📚 Books by George Couros:
    Forward, Together:
    https://a.co/d/99RGvl3

    The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

    What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20

    Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

    Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20

    Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

    Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
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    Building a community of belonging in education - Nancy Chung

    14/06/2026 | 17 mins.
    In this conversation with Nancy Chung, we explore what it really means to create a culture of belonging in schools, not only for students, but for educators as well. We discuss the importance of community in the classroom, why joy matters in education, and how educators can recover after difficult days without losing their passion for the work they do.

    Nancy also shares her journey of becoming a content creator in education, how she started building her online presence, and practical advice for educators who want to begin sharing their voice and ideas through social media.

    This episode is a reminder that strong schools are built through relationships, authenticity, resilience, and a willingness to keep showing up for one another.

    Nancy Chung’s Instagram:
    https://www.instagram.com/fancynancyin5th/

    Learn more about Nancy and her work:

    Questions for Consideration:

    What are some intentional ways we can help students and staff feel a true sense of belonging?

    How can educators recover from difficult days while still maintaining joy in their work?

    If you want to share your voice online, what is one small step you could take to start today?

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    👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset

     

    🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com

     

    🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros

     

    Follow George Couros:

    X: https://x.com/gcouros

     

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros

     

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/

     

    LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519

     

    📚 Books by George Couros:

    Forward, Together:

    https://a.co/d/99RGvl3

     

    The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

     

    What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20

     

    Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

     

    Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20

     

    Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

    Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
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    "Human Still Required" by Jeff Utecht - An Epic Book Review

    11/06/2026 | 18 mins.
    In this episode, I explore Human Still Required by Jeff Utecht and why this book will still matter 15 to 20 years from now. While it centers on artificial intelligence, its real power is in how it challenges leadership, decision making, and the systems we build in education.

    Rather than focusing on tools that will inevitably change, this conversation digs into what does not change: clarity of purpose, intentional design, and the human role in learning. If you are thinking about AI in schools, this discussion will help you move beyond hype and into meaningful, sustainable practice.

    Below are key passages discussed in the episode:

    “What AI does better than any previous disruption is expose systems exactly as they are. Strong leadership becomes more visible. Weak leadership becomes harder to hide. Productive habits get amplified. Hollow ones collapse faster. AI doesn’t ask schools to change their values—but it does demand that leaders finally be honest about them.”

    “There’s a temptation right now to double down on difficulty, or to retreat to paper and pencil, offline tasks, and analog work, to make tasks harder so AI can’t complete them easily. This is a mistake. Harder is not better. Clearer is better. Going offline may limit access to AI, but it doesn’t automatically increase thinking. Harder tasks and analog tools only matter if they are intentionally designed to develop skills. Otherwise, they simply slow the work down without deepening it. Paper-and-pencil work is valuable when the goal is the skill of handwriting, annotation, or sustained attention. But if the goal is judgment, analysis, transfer, or reflection, the medium is secondary to the thinking required. AI doesn’t expose a digital problem. It exposes a design problem.”

    “Leaders don’t need to oversell this. They need to name it clearly. Try language like: ‘We’re going to use AI to reduce administrative load, not raise expectations.’ ‘If the tool saves time, we’re reinvesting that time into instruction and support.’ ‘AI can draft and summarize. People still decide.’ ‘If something matters, a human reads it before it goes out.’ ‘We’re not chasing tools. We’re protecting human attention.’ That’s the tone schools need: calm, direct, and grounded.”

    “You cannot welcome the future while pretending the past didn’t matter.”

    “You cannot standardize personalization.”

    “Tradition matters. It carries wisdom, memory, and identity. But tradition without reflection hardens into habit—and habits don’t justify themselves. Many school practices continue not because they work, but because they’re familiar.”

    If you are a school leader, educator, or anyone thinking about the future of learning, this episode offers a grounded perspective on how to lead through change without losing what matters most.

    📘 Check out the book here: https://a.co/d/00rfVyw2

     

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    👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset

     

    🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com

     

    🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros

     

    Follow George Couros:

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcouros

     

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros

     

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/

     

    LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519

     

    📚 Books by George Couros:

    Forward, Together:

    https://a.co/d/99RGvl3

     

    The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

     

    What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20

     

    Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

     

    Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20

     

    Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

     

    Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
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    Culture, Nuance, and Leadership - A Conversation with Todd Nesloney

    07/06/2026 | 25 mins.
    In this conversation, I sit down with Todd Nesloney to talk about what truly creates meaningful leadership and culture in schools.

    Todd shares powerful insights from his work with the Texas Elementary Principals and Supervisors Association (TEPSA), focusing on why people in education need to feel seen, valued, and appreciated, not just managed. We discuss how authentic leadership is often found in small, intentional moments, and why the best leaders never stop learning from the people around them.

    We also explore a timely conversation around nuance in leadership and social media. In a world where online conversations often push people toward extremes, how do we create dialogue that brings people together instead of driving them further apart? Todd shares why great leadership is rarely simple, and why the most meaningful work is often messy, human, and complex.

    This episode is full of practical leadership wisdom, thoughtful reflection, and reminders about the importance of connection in education today.

    Todd Nesloney Website:
    https://www.toddnesloney.com/about/

    Todd’s Books:
    https://www.toddnesloney.com/books/

    George Couros Blog Post on Todd:
    https://georgecouros.com/curiosity-and-connection/

     

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    👉 Share your thoughts in the comments or connect with me on social media using #InnovatorsMindset

     

    🌐 More at: https://georgecouros.com

     

    🎙 Full audio podcast: https://linktr.ee/gcouros

     

    Follow George Couros:

    Twitter: https://twitter.com/gcouros

     

    Instagram: https://instagram.com/gcouros

     

    Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/georgecourosauthor/

     

    LinkedIn: https://ca.linkedin.com/in/george-couros-a5146519

     

    📚 Books by George Couros:

    Forward, Together:

    https://a.co/d/99RGvl3

     

    The Innovator's Mindset: https://www.amazon.com/dp/0986155497?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

     

    What Makes a Great Principal: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334739?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20

     

    Because of a Teacher: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833433X?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

     

    Because of a Teacher 2: https://www.amazon.com/dp/194833450X?tag=onamzgeorge0f-20

     

    Innovate Inside the Box: https://www.amazon.com/dp/1948334127?ref=exp_gcouros_dp_vv_d

     

    Music from Bensound - http://bensound.com/
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I am a learner, author, speaker, and sometimes I make podcasts talking about any and all of these things. One day, I will rap in my podcasts officially making me a SoundCloud rapper.
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