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The Symbolic World

Jonathan Pageau
The Symbolic World
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    451 - Universal History: What Really Happened in Eden - Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin

    26/05/2026 | 1h 41 mins.
    A telling of the events in Genesis that you might never have heard before.
    In this episode of Universal History, Deacon Seraphim Rohlin and I return to Genesis through the Syriac tradition, especially the Cave of Treasures. This is the groundwork for understanding the universal history of Persia.

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    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/f--wBUEAxjY

    Universal History playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLVX4HUUPrIY_M2uZP3yW6EEiod3fGD6FD

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Coming up
    00:38 - Intro music
    01:03 - Why return to Genesis before Persia
    05:54 - Syriac sources and the Cave of Treasures
    08:21 - Tradition, Scripture, and how ancient stories are received
    12:55 - Melchizedek, Moriah, and hidden biblical patterns
    17:41 - The first day: creation, waters, and the leaven of life
    24:37 - The second day: the firmament and the waters above
    28:45 - The third day: earth, seeds, and creation’s hidden potential
    34:22 - Sterility, power, and modern artificial systems
    38:21 - The fourth day: sun, moon, stars, heat, and life
    43:45 - The sixth day: the formation of Adam
    45:23 - Adam’s glory and the angels’ fear
    52:17 - Satan refuses to venerate Adam
    56:56 - The chariot of fire and ascent into paradise
    59:19 - Eve, Adam’s side, and ancient wedding symbolism
    01:02:09 - Paradise as the Church
    01:06:47 - Jerusalem, the cross, and universal history
    01:10:55 - The fall, the serpent, and the mirror of temptation
    01:17:42 - Garments of skin and the body after the fall
    01:22:13 - Adam and Eve expelled from paradise
    01:27:00 - The Cave of Treasures and the first temple
    01:29:21 - Cain, Abel, and the first sacrifice
    01:31:42 - Cain’s jealousy and the first murder
    01:35:40 - Abel as the first martyr and first relic
    01:37:50 - Genesis as the pattern of the whole world

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    450 - An Exploration of Modern Dysfunction: What Pluribus is Actually About

    21/05/2026 | 26 mins.
    In this video, I look at the symbolism of the recent TV show, Pluribus. There's a lot of speculation about whether it's an allegory for AI, the internet, totalitarianism, or resisting tyranny. But I would argue that it's not allegorical at all, rather it's an exploration of a deeper ontological problem: the relationship of the one and the many, the inside and the outside, sameness and difference.

    Watch on YouTube: https://youtu.be/JIk5jpmf5D0

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    449 - Decapitation Symbolism: The Glory of Losing Your Head

    08/05/2026 | 23 mins.
    In this video, I explore the symbolism of decapitation in the Bible and Christian tradition. Beginning with Joseph’s interpretation of the baker and cupbearer in Genesis, we trace a pattern of “lifting up the head” through Scripture, martyrdom, the Eucharist, and ultimately the crucifixion and ascension of Christ. Along the way, we encounter Saint John the Baptist, the mystery of sacrifice, and the astonishing story of Saint Denis of Paris, who carried his own head while preaching after his martyrdom.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/uwRsUj30URk

    Join us at the Symbolic World Summit | May 14-16 | Ohio | Keynote speakers: Jonathan Pageau, Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, Kale Zelden, Annie Crawford, and Heather Pollington
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    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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    448 - Fr. Josiah Trenham - How to Integrate Faith, Family, and Nation

    29/04/2026 | 31 mins.
    I sat down with Fr. Josiah Trenham to talk about something that’s becoming harder to ignore: how to properly order your loyalties.
    We discussed the tension between faith, nation, family, and personal identity, and what happens when those come into conflict. 

    Join us at the Symbolic World Summit, where Fr. Josiah will be one of the keynote speakers. 
    May 14-16 | Ohio | Keynote speakers: Jonathan Pageau, Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, Kale Zelden, Annie Crawford, and Heather Pollington
    Buy your tickets: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ 

    YouTube version of this episode: https://youtu.be/Ugt7XnbH0tQ

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    🎧 Listen to and review The Symbolic World podcast:
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    -Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-symbolic-world/id1386867488 

    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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    447 - Annie Crawford - The Cosmic Alchemy of That Hideous Strength

    21/04/2026 | 29 mins.
    In this conversation with Annie Crawford, we explore the role of alchemy in C.S. Lewis’ That Hideous Strength. While alchemy is often dismissed as occult or irrelevant, Lewis uses its symbolism in a precise and meaningful way.

    We look at how the novel presents two forms of transformation: one rooted in control, technology, and disembodied power, and the other in sacrifice, order, and participation in the divine. This distinction speaks directly to how we understand modern technology, including AI.
    The discussion also touches on story structure, the nature of symbolic thinking, and how transformation is embedded in narrative itself.

    YouTube version: https://youtu.be/7WqrbWNHJBs

    Join us at the Symbolic World Summit | May 14-16 | Ohio | Keynote speakers: Jonathan Pageau, Fr. Josiah Trenham, Mary Harrington, Dcn. Seraphim Rohlin, Kale Zelden, Annie Crawford, and Heather Pollington
    Buy your tickets: https://symbolicworldsummit.com/ 

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    🔓 Become a patron to support us and unlock exclusive monthly symbolism content: https://thesymbolicworld.com/subscribe
    💻 Website and blog: http://www.thesymbolicworld.com
    🔗 Linktree: https://linktr.ee/jonathanpageau  

    🎧 Please review The Symbolic World podcast:
    -Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0gI8bUwPtT3gkduHqNh6M5
    -Apple podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-symbolic-world/id1386867488 

    Our website designers: https://www.resonancehq.io/ 
    My intro was arranged and recorded by Matthew Wilkinson: https://matthewwilkinson.net/
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About The Symbolic World
Jonathan Pageau looks at symbolism in all its forms, from its source in sacred stories and images to contemporary culture and ultimately how it shapes the world we encounter.
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