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- Should I get a divorce? It’s a simple question that can carry months—or even years—of uncertainty, fear, grief, guilt, frustration, and competing priorities. In this episode of the Divorce Coaches Academy® Podcast, host Tracy Callahan explores the internal conflict that often begins long before a divorce petition is filed, a parenting plan is created, or a couple enters mediation.
For conflict-informed divorce coaches, the goal is not to tell clients whether they should stay married or get divorced. The goal is to help them understand the decision they are facing. Tracy explains how coaches can explore the interests beneath fixed positions, recognize ambivalence as valuable information, and help clients distinguish facts from fears, assumptions, interpretations, and predictions.
This episode examines the powerful narratives people may attach to divorce, including beliefs about failure, finances, parenting, identity, and the effect of separation on children. Tracy also discusses the importance of listening for absolute language such as “always,” “never,” “can’t,” and “I have no choice,” while asking thoughtful questions that expand a client’s perspective without minimizing legitimate concerns.
Listeners will learn how emotional urgency can narrow thinking, why preparation supports better decision-making, and how missing information can make an already difficult choice feel impossible. Tracy also addresses professional boundaries, appropriate referrals, client self-determination, and the divorce coach’s responsibility to remain curious, supportive, and non-directive.
Whether you are a divorce coach, mediator, attorney, mental health professional, financial professional, or someone contemplating separation or divorce, this conversation offers a thoughtful framework for understanding the conflict beneath the question. The objective is not to make decisions for clients—it is to create the conditions in which informed, intentional, and self-directed decisions become possible.
Divorce Coaches Academy® provides professional divorce coach training, advanced skill development, practical tools, and conflict-informed frameworks designed to help coaches support clients responsibly and effectively before, during, and after divorce.
Learn more about Divorce Coaches Academy®, explore professional training programs, and discover resources for advancing your divorce coaching practice at https://divorcecoachesacademy.com. - In divorce, “fair” can feel like the finish line but an agreement that looks balanced on paper can still create financial strain, parenting stress, and ongoing conflict in real life.
On this week's podcast, Debra Doak explores why fairness alone isn’t enough and introduces the FAIR model, a practical coaching framework for evaluating whether a divorce agreement is truly sustainable:
F — Feasible: Can you realistically live with it?
A — Adaptable: Can it accommodate life’s inevitable changes?
I — Intentional: Does it reflect your values and future goals?
R — Repeatable: Can you maintain it over time without resentment or extraordinary effort?
Through relatable examples involving the marital home, parenting schedules, financial support, and settlement decisions, Debra shares powerful questions divorce coaches can use to help clients move beyond emotional reactions and make clear, informed choices.
Because the best divorce agreement isn’t simply one that feels fair today—it’s one that still works tomorrow.
Learn more about divorce coaching and professional certification at divorcecoachesacademy.com. - In this thought provoking episode of the Divorce Coaches Academy® Podcast, Tracy Callahan is joined by Nikki Bould, Director of Education and Development for Divorce Coaches Academy New Zealand, to explore a simple but powerful question:
What if we designed the family dispute resolution system today instead of inheriting the one we have?
Together, they challenge traditional assumptions about divorce and examine what could change if families were prepared for decision making before being asked to choose a legal process.
Drawing on conflict resolution, neuroscience, child development, and interdisciplinary practice, they discuss why capacity, education, and readiness may be the missing pieces in creating healthier outcomes for families.
This conversation explores redefining success in divorce, the role of divorce coaching as an early dispute resolution resource, and why building better decision makers may be just as important as reaching an agreement.
If you work with families or are interested in the future of divorce coaching, mediation, family law, or conflict resolution, this episode offers a fresh perspective on what meaningful innovation could look like.
To learn more about Nikki Bould and her dispute resolution work in New Zealand, please see https://www.adsi.org.nz/coach-nikki-bould and to learn more about Divorce Coach Certification training in New Zealand, you can contact Nikki directly at DCA.NZ@divorcecoachesacademy.com When Conflict Keeps Repeating: Interrupting Patterns Exhale–Explore–Engage- Masha Rusanov
01/08/2026 | 33 mins.Why do clients keep reacting in ways they regret, even when they know better?
In this episode of the Divorce Coaches Academy® Podcast, Tracy Callahan speaks with conflict expert, mediator, DCA® Certified ADR Divorce Coach, and author Masha Rusanov about the unconscious patterns that keep people trapped in recurring divorce and co-parenting conflict.
Masha introduces the Exhale, Explore, Engage® framework from her book, Repatterned: How to Transform Your Conflict Defaults and Reclaim Your Life. Together, they explore why familiar reactions become automatic under stress, how nervous system activation limits access to communication skills, and why waiting for the other person to change gives away personal agency.
They also discuss how divorce coaches can help clients recognize their contribution to a conflict dynamic without assigning blame or stepping outside the scope of coaching. High conflict does not mean a resolution-focused approach will not work. It means clients may first need the awareness and capacity to interrupt old patterns and choose a different response.
Lasting change does not begin when conflict disappears. It begins when we recognize the pattern and realize we have another choice.
Learn more about Masha:
Masha Rusanov is a conflict expert, DCA® Certified ADR Divorce Coach, ICF Certified Coach, and a mediator with a Master's in Negotiation, Conflict Resolution, and Peacebuilding. She works with individuals and organizations navigating conflict and high-stakes relationship dynamics. Before building her divorce coaching and conflict resolution practice, she spent over two decades in tech at companies like Google and Intuit. "Repatterned" is her latest book. She lives in the San Francisco Bay Area, California, with her blended family.
https://www.masharusanov.com/
Purchase Repatterned:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/1957917911- What if reducing co-parenting conflict does not require both parents to cooperate?
In this episode of the Divorce Coaches Academy® Podcast, Tracy Callahan welcomes Crystal Fisher, founder and executive director of Parenting with Grace, author of Protected and Connected, parenting educator, and DCA® Certified ADR Divorce Coach.
Together, they challenge the belief that successful co-parenting requires constant communication, mutual cooperation, or a friendly relationship between former spouses. Crystal explains how one parent can begin changing entrenched conflict patterns by communicating with greater intention, creating emotional stability, and focusing on what they can control.
The conversation also explores why less communication may be healthier in some situations, how parallel parenting can protect families from ongoing conflict, and why children should never be expected to carry the emotional burden of their parents’ divorce. Crystal shares practical ways parents can pause, examine their responses, and measure progress by the peace and stability they create for themselves and their children.
Learn more about Crystal’s work at Parenting with Grace:
https://parentingwithgrace.org
Purchase Protected and Connected on Amazon:
https://a.co/d/0bJyMCw0
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Divorce Coaches Academy podcast hosts Tracy Callahan and Debra Doak are on a mission to revolutionize the way families navigate divorce. We discuss topics to help professional divorce coaches succeed with clients and meet their business goals and we advocate (loudly sometimes) for the critical role certified divorce coaches play in the alternative dispute resolution process. Our goal is to create a community of divorce coaching professionals committed to reducing the financial and emotional impact of divorce on families.
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