Lifting the Lid on Technology

1.3 billion AI agents are forecast within a couple of years. The population of India. But who is watching what they do?
In this Episode of Lifting the Lid, Barry White and Philip Meyer dig into Agent 365 and Microsoft Cowork, the governancekeeping the agent world under control, and the harder questions about jobs and choice.
Covered in this episodeAgent 365 and agent observability, giving agents Entra IDs and Purview controls, the AWS data centre outage, Microsoft Cowork versus Claude, choice of language models across Copilot and Azure AI Foundry, and why a human still needs to check the work.
Governance, compliance and the importance of our roles with AI. Bought to you in partnership with Microsoft.
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This episode is a practical one, and it could save you money.
There's a change to licensing that could raise your monthly bill, and many businesses need to act quickly.
In episode five, Barry White and Philip Meyer break down Extended Service Terms in plain language, with the context you only get from 35 years inside Microsoft.
Covered in this episodeWhat Extended Service Terms are, why the grace period is gone, auto renew and payment mechanics, how an annual deal can flip to monthly with an uplift, and how to get your renewal in order before the end date.
Essential listening on Microsoft CSP, Extended Service Terms and licensing for New Zealand business. Bought to you in partnership with Microsoft.
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A student used their school AI LLM to show the salaries of every teacher. Is this an AI problem or a security problem?
In episode four, Barry White and Philip Meyer take on confidentiality in the age of AI, and why the biggest risk is usually a helpful person, not a bad one.
Covered in this episode
The end of security by obscurity, accidental oversharing, Microsoft Purview and data security posture management for small business, classifying data as confidential by default, insider risk, and the scale of intellectual property loss.
Real talk on AI confidentiality, data governance and Purview for New Zealand business. Bought to you in partnership with Microsoft.
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People didn't pilot electricity. They adopted electricity. They didn't trial it for six months to see how it felt. They said, right, we're shutting down the steam engine and we're electrifying the business.
In episode three, Barry White and Philip Meyer take a critical look at Copilot adoption and mindset, with the experienced talk of someone who spent 35 years inside Microsoft.
Covered in this episode
Free versus paid Copilot, security and governance, why AI is a business transformation and not an IT project, AI as electricity, why you should not bet on a single language model, and why older users often adopt with more intent.
Honest talk on AI adoption and business transformation. Bought to you in partnership with Microsoft.
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Right now, tens of millions of AI agents are talking to each other. Not to us. To each other.
In episode two, hear the insights from someone who spent 35 years inside Microsoft. Philip Meyer and Barry White get past the hype and into the machinery of real business AI in New Zealand.
Covered in this episode
The agentic shift, hiring digital agents, machine to machine knowledge transfer, why AI still needs data plumbing and security, the five pillars of an AI shift, Microsoft Fabric andCopilot Studio, and why Copilot is the UI for AI.
Practical talk on all things Microsoft: Copilot, agents, Fabricand generative AI for business.
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