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An Unfiltered Chat with Wyloo (Luca Giacovazzi + Joel Turco)
We’re sharing a chat today that we immensely enjoyedrecording. Luca Giacovazzi and Joel Turco, who lead Andrew Forrest’s private mining business Wyloo, joined us in the studio to have a conversation on a wide range of experiences, ideas and perspectives.We reflected on the decision to spend ~$1B buying nickel assets, becoming the 60% owner of the Yangibana rare earth project as well as 20% of Neo Performance Materials, taking a big stake in Greatland Gold when people wouldn’t touch it plus the failed “fill-or-kill” raid on Regis Resources, to touch on just a few of the themes we covered.Additionally, we brought back the spicy under-rated vs over-rated debate.……………TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Preview02:24 Luca & Joel on Mom03:02 Reflecting on adventures in nickel12:50 Indo + battery shifts18:36 Making $500m+ in Greatland35:29 Regis Resources: What could’ve been?41:21 Yangibana + Neo: A rare earth supply chain?56:15 How Australia can stay ahead01:02:28 Is infrastructure the right approach?01:09:46 Will Big Super buy mines01:16:30 Getting introspective01:16:30 Getting introspective01:19:20 Green premiums01:24:37 Mines of the future01:28:54 A Wyloo IPO?01:33:02 Under-rated vs Over-rated……………Join 12k+ subscribers to the ⁠Director’s Special⁠:one daily email with all the news that matters in mining ……………PARTNERSThank you to the mining services businesses that make thiscontent possible: · ⁠Grounded⁠ - Infrastructure for remote mining and civil projects Australia wide | Paul Natoli: [email protected] · ⁠Sandvik Ground Support⁠ – The only ground supportyou’ll ever need · CrossBoundary Energy⁠ – Independent powerproducer for the global mining industry | [email protected] +61 466 184 943 ……………FOLLOW & CONNECT• YouTube: ⁠@MoneyofMine⁠• Twitter / X: ⁠@moneyofminepod⁠• ⁠LinkedIn ⁠| ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠Facebook⁠• Travis Ricciardo: ⁠@TRAVmoneyofmine⁠⁠• Jonas Dorling: ⁠@JDmoneyofmine⁠⁠• Email us Word on the Decline: [email protected]……………JOIN THE GROUP CHAT• Step 1: Join the ⁠Money Miners Facebook Group⁠• Step 2: Request access to the ⁠HOOTEROO chat⁠……………DISCLAIMERAll information in this podcast is for education andentertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. Please ensure you read our ⁠full disclaimer⁠.
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Why the World’s Biggest Funds Get Mining Wrong (David Sparks)
We’ve got the pleasure of sharing a conversation with David Sparks — an investor in the natural resources world with experience at some of the world’s biggest hedge funds, including the famed multi-strat firm Millennium, as well as BBT and Exodus Point.In this episode, we unpack why investing in mining from a pod shop is often a flawed strategy, how these firms came to dominate the market, and what it actually means when a pod “blows up.”David also shares his picks for the most impressive management teams in global mining and plenty more along the way.We hope you enjoy this one as much as we did. ……………TIMESTAMPS 00:00 Introduction02:09 David Sparks on MoM07:55 Being Market Neutral09:58 Why the model doesn’t work in mining13:40 The Volatility16:07 Reflecting on multi strategy funds19:02 The worst way to invest in mining23:55 Shorting27:20 The “lack of risk”30:40 Access to management32:00 Deploying capital in an unconstrained world34:40 Are mining stocks more inefficient?36:40 Cheap stocks……………Join 12k+ subscribers to the ⁠Director’s Special⁠: one daily email with all the news that matters in mining ……………PARTNERSThank you to the mining services businesses that make thiscontent possible: · ⁠Grounded⁠ - Infrastructure for remote mining and civil projects Australia wide | Paul Natoli: [email protected] · ⁠Sandvik Ground Support⁠ – The only ground support you’ll ever need· ⁠Cross Boundary Energy⁠ – Independent power producer for the global mining industry | [email protected] +61 466 184 943 ……………FOLLOW & CONNECT• YouTube: ⁠@MoneyofMine⁠• Twitter / X: ⁠@moneyofminepod⁠• ⁠LinkedIn⁠ | ⁠Instagram⁠ | ⁠Facebook⁠• Travis Ricciardo: ⁠@TRAVmoneyofmine⁠⁠• Jonas Dorling: ⁠@JDmoneyofmine⁠⁠• Email us Word on the Decline: [email protected]……………JOIN THE GROUP CHAT• Step 1: Join the ⁠MoneyMiners Facebook Group⁠• Step 2: Request access to the ⁠HOOTEROO chat⁠……………DISCLAIMERAll information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. Please ensure you read our ⁠full disclaimer⁠.
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We Surprise Call 3 Fund Managers....
We went a bit rogue today with a completely different dailyepisode style.Financial markets, mining and commodities are at a fascinating inflection point, and we wanted to hear what some of the smartest people in markets are thinking. So we called them.This episode is packed with thoughts and ruminationsfrom Russell “Rusty” Delroy, Dan Porter and Tom Woolrych, who opened up on global macro, hunting for value, coal markets, and a bunch of explorers looking for the next big find..……………TIMESTAMPS(00:00) Improvising a show(01:42) Phonecall #1 - Rusty(20:17) Phonecall #2 - Dan Porter(24:52) Phonecall #3- Hedley Widdup(25:09) Phonecall #4- Tom Woolrych……………Join 12k+ subscribers to the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Director’s Special⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: one daily email with all the news that matters in mining ……………PARTNERSThank you to the mining services businesses that make this content possible: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Mineral Mining Services⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Your preferred mining contractor - 1300 546 117 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grounded⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Infrastructure for remote mining and civil projects Australia wide | Paul Natoli: [email protected] ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sandvik Ground Support⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – The only ground support you’ll ever need relevant ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cross Boundary Energy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Independent power producer for the global mining industry | [email protected] +61 466 184 943 ……………FOLLOW & CONNECT• YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@MoneyofMine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Twitter / X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@moneyofminepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Travis Ricciardo: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TRAVmoneyofmine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Jonas Dorling: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@JDmoneyofmine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Email us Word on the Decline: [email protected]……………JOIN THE GROUP CHAT• Step 1: Join the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Money Miners Facebook Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Step 2: Request access to the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HOOTEROO chat⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠……………DISCLAIMERAll information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. Please ensure you read our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠full disclaimer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
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Undervalued Copper, Twitter Activism and IperionX with Hank Ruehl
We mix things up today with a daily show and interview allin one as we’re joined by Hank Ruehl, who is a natural resource investor through the fund he founded, Sierra Morena Capital.We dive into the latest escalations in the Rack Attack, withKinterra and CAML falling over for New World, before heading up to Sudbury to take a look at Magna Mining, which has consolidated some forgotten mines.Next, we unpack the highly dramatic fight for an outcome atTNR Gold, which sits on 2 great royalties. To wrap things up, we peel back the curtain on IperionX, the titanium producer play which is gathering steam in America.You can connect with Hank Ruehl on Twitter: @HankRuehl.……………TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Introduction(03:03) The Rack Attack - Update(07:17) Competitive tension for US assets(09:35) Value in Magna Mining(16:56) The draw of restart plays(19:20) Twitter activism to unlock TNR Gold’s value(33:38) IperionX – the West’s new titanium champion?……………Join 12k+ subscribers to the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Director’s Special⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: one daily email with all the news that matters in mining ……………PARTNERSThank you to the mining services businesses that make this content possible: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Mineral Mining Services⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Your preferred mining contractor - 1300 546 117 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grounded⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Infrastructure for remote mining and civil projects Australia wide | Paul Natoli: [email protected] ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sandvik Ground Support⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – The only ground support you’ll ever need relevant ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠K-Drill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Safe, reliable, and productive surface RC drilling | Ryan O'Sullivan: [email protected] +61 427 783 190 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cross Boundary Energy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Independent power producer for the global mining industry | [email protected] +61 466 184 943 ……………FOLLOW & CONNECT• YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@MoneyofMine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Twitter / X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@moneyofminepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Travis Ricciardo: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TRAVmoneyofmine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Jonas Dorling: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@JDmoneyofmine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Email us Word on the Decline: [email protected]……………JOIN THE GROUP CHAT• Step 1: Join the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Money Miners Facebook Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Step 2: Request access to the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HOOTEROO chat⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠……………DISCLAIMERAll information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. Please ensure you read our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠full disclaimer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
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Paladin’s CEO Exit: Cause for Concern?
To kick things off today we pick apart Paladin’s announcement that CEO Ian Purdy will step down and look at what the future could hold for the uranium miner.We then venture to West Africa where Predictive shared their DFS numbers on the Bankan project, leading us to speculate who will make an approach for the developer.Rounding off, we discuss the news that Astron & EnergyFuels received regulatory approvals in Victoria of all places as well as the announcement that Wildcat will embark on a share buyback..……………TIMESTAMPS (00:00) Introduction(03:23) Is PDN’s leadership change cause for concern(13:36) What does the future hold for takeover target PDI(25:13) Should gold miners be doing M&A now?(29:37) Astron get the all clear… in Victoria!(31:09) A lithium developer does a share buyback……………Join 12k+ subscribers to the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Director’s Special⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠: one daily email with all the news that matters in mining ……………PARTNERSThank you to the mining services businesses that make this content possible: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Mineral Mining Services⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Your preferred mining contractor - 1300 546 117 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Grounded⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ - Infrastructure for remote mining and civil projects Australia wide | Paul Natoli: [email protected] ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Sandvik Ground Support⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – The only ground support you’ll ever need relevant ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠K-Drill⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Safe, reliable, and productive surface RC drilling | Ryan O'Sullivan: [email protected] +61 427 783 190 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Cross Boundary Energy⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ – Independent power producer for the global mining industry | [email protected] +61 466 184 943 ……………FOLLOW & CONNECT• YouTube: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@MoneyofMine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Twitter / X: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@moneyofminepod⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠LinkedIn⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Instagram⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ | ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Facebook⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Travis Ricciardo: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@TRAVmoneyofmine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Jonas Dorling: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠@JDmoneyofmine⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Email us Word on the Decline: [email protected]……………JOIN THE GROUP CHAT• Step 1: Join the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Money Miners Facebook Group⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• Step 2: Request access to the ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠HOOTEROO chat⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠……………DISCLAIMERAll information in this podcast is for education and entertainment purposes only and is of general nature only. Please ensure you read our ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠full disclaimer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠.
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