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We sat down with Brandon Munro from Bannerman Energy to discuss their transformative deal with CNNC and the broader uranium market landscape.

Brandon has been at the helm of Bannerman for a decade, guiding the company through one of the most challenging financing environments in mining. With deep expertise in the uranium sector and years of experience operating in Namibia, he shares unique insight into the uranium supply crunch, the contracting cycle, and how to get a deal done.

In this episode, we cover:

How the deal came together
Negotiating with a Chinese SOE
Why now was the right time
Choosing strategic equity over project finance
Whether partnering with the Chinese was the only choice
China's voracious long-term uranium demand
Why the uranium market will overshoot
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This was recorded on 26.2.2026.   
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(34:40) Why Build Now
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We continue our exploration of the energy space with today’s guest, Saul Kavonic. 
Saul covers the Australian energy sector as an analyst with MST Financial and has been a prolific commentator for a number of years with many high conviction calls. 
In this episode, he runs us through: 
• The macro landscape 
• The Woodside vs Santos debate 
• Which basins are the most exciting in Australia 
• Companies that have exciting exploration happening 
• How small-scale energy differs from mining juniors 
Stocks mentioned: WDS, STO, BPT, EXR, OMA, STX, CVN, EQU, BTL, AEL, TDO 

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Today we're sharing our conversation with YJ Lee, founder of the Arcane Green Metal Fund, fresh off an incredible 165% return in 2025.
YJ breaks down the explosive dynamics driving lithium and silver markets, and why we're only at the beginning of a multi-year commodity supercycle. With lithium demand set to grow 33% annually and China dominating the EV supply chain, the West faces tough choices ahead.

In this chat, YJ articulates:

• Why the lithium bottom in July 2024 was the buying opportunity
• His 4.6 million ton lithium demand forecast for 2030 (and why it's conservative)
• How Discovery Silver became a 10-bagger in 18 months
• Why battery energy storage systems (BESS) will explode to 1.5 TWh by 2030
• China's EV penetration hitting 80%+ and what it means globally
• The Pilbara Minerals restart strategy and supply dynamics

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Today we’re sharing our conversation with Craig Tindale, author of the widely read “Return to Matter” paper. 
Craig’s writing captures the fragility of the situation that the West finds itself in, as China’s dominance in the physical world comes home to roost. 
Be it mineral processing all the way to defence equipment manufacturing, China now accounts for the vast majority, and in some cases the entirety of the world’s capacity. There is no easy fix for this. 
In this chat, Craig articulates: 
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• Why we’re at the end of the road for “Stateless Capitalism” 
• The tough medicine Western nations must take 
• China’s strategy for lower commodity prices 
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(10:20) Chinese control of critical metals
(11:40) Unrestricted economic warfare
(23:00) The simultaneity trap
(26:30) Mining valuations and Chinese partnerships
(30:20) Stateless vs state capitalism
(45:00) ESG costs and refining challenges
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We’re branching out for this episode. Today, it’s all about energy. 

As metals markets have moved violently higher across the board, we called on Josh Young to hear his take on where we are in the energy cycle. We’re hunting for potential value. 

Josh unpacks with us: 

• The “oil glut” narrative 
• Why funds are max bearish 
• What’s next for shale 
• Why people get China wrong 
• Which stocks are showing the most value 
• The companies that are over valued 
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(17:50) Demand Growth and China
(25:40) US Shale Production Outlook
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