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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

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The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
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  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20VC: Will OpenRouter Sell for $10BN to Stripe? | Why Chinese Open Models Are Beating America—and What Happens Next | Why Enterprises Are More Fearful of Anthropic and OpenAI Than China | Is the Routing Layer Becoming a Commodity with Alex Atallah

    10/08/2026 | 59 mins.
    Alex Atallah is the Founder and CEO @ OpenRouter, the unified interface for LLMs. The company has raised over $153M in funding, with the latest valuation pricing the company at $1.3BN. OpenRouter is reportedly in an acquisition process with Stripe for $10BN. 
    AGENDA:
    00:00 Is OpenRouter Selling to Stripe for $10 Billion? 04:05 What Did Alex Learn From Scaling OpenSea? 06:38 What Did OpenRouter's Founding Thesis Get Wrong? 14:47 Is AI Model Routing Already Being Commoditized? 19:12 Do Falling Token Prices Help or Hurt OpenRouter? 27:16 Should America Be Alarmed by Chinese Open Models? 32:43 Will US Open-Source Models Compete With Chinese Models in the Next 12 Months? 39:26 Will the Router Be Swallowed by the Agent Framework? 48:56 Is Distillation Wrong—and How Should We Look at It? 50:01 Is the Reported $10 Billion Stripe Deal Actually Happening?
  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20VC: The AI Boom Will Create Enormous Roadkill: Who Wins & Loses | Why Founders Should Never Take Multi-Stage Money at Seed | Why Triple, Triple, Double, Double is Good Enough

    08/08/2026 | 1h 25 mins.
    David Frankel is one of the great seed investors of our time. As the Co-Founder of Founder Collective he has backed the likes of Uber, Coupang, Suno, PillPack, Airtable, Whoop, Shield AI and many more. In a world of expanding fund sizes, David and Founder Collective are one of the only successful franchises to truly stick to small, boutique funds. 
    AGENDA:
    00:00 The Bubbles Are Getting Bigger—and There Will Be a Lot of Roadkill
    05:21 The Worst-Performing Funds Will Be the $50M–$100M Seed Funds
    25:06 "We're Greedy for Returns, Not Management Fees"
    30:10 "Pro Rata Is the Original Sin"
    32:59 "A $1BN Valuation Is the New Series A"
    46:39 "I Have Never Seen Secondary Markets This Liquid"
    58:03 Microsoft Has Done a Crappy Job of AI—and Another Dot-Com Crash Is Inevitable
    01:08:25 OpenAI and Anthropic Will Be Disrupted—and China Could Do It
    01:16:12 "Anyone Who Claims They Knew Is Full of Shit"
    01:19:56 Our Children Won't Need to Drive—and Chemotherapy Will Look Prehistoric
  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20VC: Airtable Sold for $1.285BN | Leo Achenbrenner's Situational Awareness Blows Up | Moonshot AI Raises $3.5B at $35B | Anthropic Model Breaches Three Companies' Security | Big Tech Earnings: Why Palantir Beat The Rest

    06/08/2026 | 1h 15 mins.
    Special Guest: Nikesh Arora, CEO @ Palo Alto Networks. 
    AGENDA:
    04:50 Airtable Sold to Bending Spoons for $1.285B  17:00 Leo Aschenbrenner's Situational Awareness Blows Up as Citadel Buys His $16BN Book 22:30 Anthropic's AI Models Breach Three Companies as Cyber Threat Accelerates 33:35 Moonshot AI Raises $3.5B at $35B as Chinese Models Crush AI Prices 38:05 Valar Atomics Triples to $6B as Sequoia Bets on Nuclear Power for AI 42:50 OpenAI and Anthropic Could Trigger a Massive Public-Market Dislocation 52:55 Big Tech and Palantir Earnings Ignite the Next Phase of the AI Gold Rush 1:04:30 Procore Buys DroneDeploy for $900M in a High-Stakes 12x Revenue Bet 1:10:55 Scale AI Hits $1.5B ARR After the Meta Deal Left It for Dead
  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20VC: 70% of Neolabs Will Die | There Will be a $100BN US Open-Source Model | Data is a Trillion $ Market | Governments Cannot Regulate Models: It is Too Late | The Cyber Attacks to Come Will be Insane with Anastasios Angelopoulos @ Arena

    03/08/2026 | 1h 4 mins.
    Anastasios Angelopoulos is the co-founder and CEO of Arena, the real-world evaluation platform that has become a leading referee of the global AI model race. Arena has raised $250 million, with the latest round valuing the company at $1.7BN. Arena recently surpassed $100M ARR just eight months after launching its enterprise offering, powered by more than 30 million monthly users.
    AGENDA:
    00:00 – Intro: "Kimi beat every American model": What Nobody Wants to Admit…
    05:20 – Is this the true commoditization of models? Are they just a utility layer now?
    07:30 – Do Chinese open source models cannibalize the closed frontier labs?
    10:30 – Why has America's open source community lagged so badly behind China?
    17:20 – Will Chinese models be banned in the US — and does hosting locally really kill the backdoor risk?
    23:20 – Are enterprises really terrified of working with the frontier labs?
    27:20 – Why hasn't inference got cheaper — and what happens when Anthropic's "disgustingly high" margins go public?
    30:20 – Who should decide if a model is safe to release: the government, a neutral body, or nobody?
    33:10 – Are we about to see cyberattacks like we've never seen before? (The fake candidate who passed every interview)
    37:00 – 75 Neo labs: what separates the winners from the two-thirds worth nothing?
    40:45 – Is data actually a commodity — and can data providers be $100BN companies?
    48:00 – Can you be the referee when the players are paying you? (And Arena's real revenue)
    50:45 – Will the model providers eat the application layer? Are Harvey, Lagora and Figma in trouble?
    54:10 – Quickfire: Why hasn't NVIDIA bounced on the rise of open source, who hits $10 trillion first, and does the compute debt cycle end in insolvency?
  • The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch

    20VC: The Best AI Companies Have Unique Data Acquisition Strategies | Will Simile Kill Kalshi, Polymarkets and NASDAQ | How to Sign Fortune 500 Companies As Customers in Weeks with Joon Sung Park, Simile

    01/08/2026 | 1h 3 mins.
    Joon Sung Park is the Founder and CEO of Simile, the AI simulation company building foundation models of human behaviour; allowing companies to test how real people may think, decide and act before making a decision in the real world. Simile has now raised $300 million in total, including a $200 million Series B announced last week at a $2 billion valuation, led by Greenoaks and Index Ventures.
    AGENDA:
    00:00 We Will Pay $100M for a Single Query on Some Models
    10:00 Why Stock Markets May Not Exist in 5 Years Time
    15:00 The Best Companies All Have Unique Data Acquisition Strategies
    19:00 The Best AI Companies Have Clear and Fast Reward Functions
    24:00 How We Sign Fortune 500 Companies for $10M Contracts in Weeks
    32:00 Does Similie Kill Kalshi and Polymarket? Prediction vs Changing the Future
    42:00 Inside Similie's $300M Raise; What Every Founder Needs to Know
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About The Twenty Minute VC (20VC): Venture Capital | Startup Funding | The Pitch
The Twenty Minute VC (20VC) interviews the world's greatest venture capitalists with prior guests including Sequoia's Doug Leone and Benchmark's Bill Gurley. Once per week, 20VC Host, Harry Stebbings is also joined by one of the great founders of our time with prior founder episodes from Spotify's Daniel Ek, Linkedin's Reid Hoffman, and Snowflake's Frank Slootman. If you would like to see more of The Twenty Minute VC (20VC), head to www.20vc.com for more information on the podcast, show notes, resources and more.
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