The Edge Podcast

Michael Nadeau is the Founder of The DeFi Report.
Is the market bottom in? Michael isn't sure, but he's deploying anyway.
In this episode, Michael walks us through his H2 2026 outlook using onchain data and market structure analysis. We cover why classic BTC top indicators never triggered this cycle, and why he's been buying below $65K while still unsure the lows are fully in. We discuss why application layer tokens could be the big winners next bull run, why fast DeFi protocols hold a place in his portfolio, and how to think about getting long the tokenization of all assets.
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⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
1:50 - From accounting to building The DeFi Report
5:20 - The elevator pitch for crypto in 2026
8:46 - What to expect for crypto in the second half of 2026?
13:52 - Is the market bottom in? Why Michael’s buying below $65k BTC
19:13 - What’s different this bear market?
23:43 - Why classic BTC top indicators never triggered?
28:10 - App layer tokens could be big winners next bull run
35:50 - What is fast DeFi and why Michael likes PUMP
45:00 - Why Michael bought ENA
49:30 - How Michael ended up with LIT vs HYPE
59:00 - Key themes in Michael’s portfolio
1:04:20 - How to get long the tokenization of all assets
1:09:09 - What are the best ways to lose money in crypto?
1:15:06 - $1M price target for BTC and why it’s a portfolio anchor
1:18:40 - Closing
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🔗 GUEST LINKS
► The DeFi Report (one month free): https://thedefireport.io/friends
► The DeFi Report on X: https://x.com/the_defi_report
► Michael Nadeau on X: https://x.com/JustDeauIt
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DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast.

Paul Frambot is the CoFounder and CEO of Morpho.
In this episode, we discuss how Morpho has built through one of crypto's hardest bear markets, thriving off major integrations with CEXs and fintechs like Coinbase and Robinhood, plus partnerships with TradFi players like Apollo.
We get a first look at Morpho Midnight, screensharing their biggest product launch yet, introducing a new primitive for DeFi fixed rate lending and borrowing. We cover what Midnight means for leveraged positions and loopers, and why fixed rates are a non-negotiable condition for serious institutional capital entering DeFi.
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💎 THIS EPISODE'S SPONSORS
🔒 KPK | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults

🏦 AXIS | The Origin Vault launches on Ethereum on July 29th

🌐 RE | Earn real yield backed by regulated reinsurance programs

🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term

🟠 APYX | The first dividend-backed stablecoin (DBS)

🌏 MANTLE | The world’s premier RWA distribution layer

🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale

⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield

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⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
1:58 - How Morpho managed to beat the bear market trend
5:18 - Crypto’s greater success as finance infra
9:57 - Onchain integrations for fintechs like Coinbase & Robinhood
14:00 - Why TradFi partners like Apollo trust Morpho infra
16:53 - The importance of Morpho being credibly neutral
19:46 - The evolution of curators to underwrite billions of people
26:03 - Introducing Morpho Midnight and the problem it solves
29:48 - Screenshare demo of Morpho fixed rate markets
35:08 - Understanding how multi-market offers work
39:22 - Expectations for maturity dates
40:48 - What Midnight unlocks for leverage and loopers
42:40 - Closing
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🔗 GUEST LINKS
► Morpho website: https://morpho.org/
► New Morpho Markets app: https://markets.morpho.org/
► Morpho on X: https://x.com/morpho
► Paul Frambot on X: https://x.com/PaulFrambot
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► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/
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DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast.

Pablo Sabbatella is the Founder of Opsek and Louis is the Head of Operations & Audits.
North Korea has an estimated 2,500 organized hackers targeting crypto right now, which is why stolen funds often don't come from smart contract bugs, they start with hacking people.
In this episode, Pablo and Louis walk through the real threat landscape facing DeFi users and protocols today, including the most common attack vectors targeting crypto holders right now. We discuss what DeFi protocols must do to raise the security bar and what we as individual users can do today to meaningfully reduce the risk and protect ourselves.
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💎 THIS EPISODE'S SPONSORS
🔒 KPK | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults

🏦 AXIS | The Origin Vault launches on Ethereum on July 29th

🌐 RE | Earn real yield backed by regulated reinsurance programs

🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term

🟠 APYX | The first dividend-backed stablecoin (DBS)

🌏 MANTLE | The world’s premier RWA distribution layer

🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale

⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield

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⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
2:04 - How Pablo pulled Nomatic’s data from just an email
4:29 - From hacking for fun to white hat security
11:42 - How real is the threat of AI in DeFi?
17:12 - When will AI tools protect DeFi users?
22:58 - Common attack vectors in DeFi and how to stay safe
29:56 - How to safely buy a hardware wallet
32:49 - Assessing Nomatic’s wallet management
35:55 - Passkeys vs 2FA, mistakes to avoid
43:28 - Why everyone should be using physical keys (Yubikey)
46:17 - How DeFi builders can avoid compromising devices
53:01 - What is Security Alliance (SEAL)?
57:14 - How Opsek protects crypto for CEXs, HNWI, and DeFi
1:02:31 - DPRK's 2,500 hackers working to steal your crypto
1:10:22 - Close calls with real hackers
1:18:47 - Closing
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🔗 GUEST LINKS
► Opsek website: https://opsek.io/
► Opsek on X: https://x.com/opsek_io
► Pablo Sabbatella on X: https://x.com/PabloSabbatella
► Louis on X: https://x.com/theSouilos
► Security Alliance on X: https://x.com/_SEAL_Org
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► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap
► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/
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DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast.

Johann Eid is the Chief Business Officer at Chainlink Labs.
In this episode, Johann walks us through how crypto has evolved from a dreaming phase of romanticized white papers into its "big boy era," where hundreds of billions are now onchain, institutions from around the world are tokenizing RWAs like stocks, and stablecoins have changed the lives of everyday people from Lebanon to South America. He emphasizes why security is the foundation of everything built, what Chainlink's CCIP offers for an interoperable DeFi economy, and why AI agents transacting onchain represent the next wave of users nobody is pricing in yet.
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💎 THIS EPISODE'S SPONSORS
🔒 KPK | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults

🏦 AXIS | The Origin Vault launches on Ethereum on July 29th

🌐 RE | Earn real yield backed by regulated reinsurance programs

🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term

🟠 APYX | The first dividend-backed stablecoin (DBS)

🌏 MANTLE | The world’s premier RWA distribution layer

🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale

⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield

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⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
2:18 - How DeFi transformed from lofty ideas to real use cases
7:37 - Every institution wants to migrate its business logic onchain
12:14 - What finally pushed TradFi to move onchain
18:06 - Security means everything for adoption of DeFi
24:58 - CCIP and lessons from LayerZero-rsETH exploit
30:18 - Prediction markets and Chainlink's role
34:31 - Are AI agents the next wave of new users?
40:21 - What DeFi and TradFi misunderstand about each other
43:05 - The most bullish factor for Chainlink
45:30 - What needs to happen for DeFi to replace TradFi legacy markets?
50:48 - Closing
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🔗 GUEST LINKS
► Chainlink website: https://chain.link/
► Chainlink on X: https://x.com/chainlink
► Johann Eid on X: https://x.com/EidJohann
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► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/
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DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast.

John Gillen is an ex-BlackRock VP, General Partner at TRU Capital, and host of The Milk Road Show.
In this episode, John breaks down his Wartime Ethereum thesis on why this is a defining moment for Ethereum that demands engagement, conviction, and patience rather than capitulation. He walks through how ETH functions as a triple point asset, why stablecoins, tokenization, and the agentic economy are all in their first innings with Ethereum best positioned to capture each tailwind, and why decentralized AI makes the case for Ethereum's censorship resistance more urgent than ever.
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💎 THIS EPISODE'S SPONSORS
🔒 KPK | Best risk-adjusted yield through automated vaults

🕛 NOON | The highest and safest stablecoin yield, built for the long term

🟠 APYX | The first dividend-backed stablecoin (DBS)

🌏 MANTLE | The world’s premier RWA distribution layer

🐡 PUFFER INSTITUTIONAL | ETH staking solutions for scale

⚔️ KATANA | Deep liquidity & real yield

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⏱️ TIMESTAMPS
0:00 - Intro
3:01 - Why John got invested in Ethereum and ETH
8:39 - Why Ethereum + ETH are the most important chain + asset
14:29 - Why are we in Wartime Ethereum mode?
17:44 - Ethereum doubles down on “can’t be evil”
20:23 - Ethereum is trustware for building economic systems
24:48 - Is Wall Street understanding and buying ETH value accrual?
32:04 - The largest institutional bull run vs bearish retail sentiment
36:03 - When strong fundamentals translate to number-go-up for ETH
45:57 - CLARITY Act will be a tailwind for Ethereum’s growth
52:11 - There is no EF funding crisis, the ecosystem is reshaping
59:05 - Why decentralized AI makes the case for Ethereum
1:08:39 - DeFi attracts those who question the rules of society
1:10:33 - How to value ETH: Triple point asset framework explained
1:14:29 - John's outlook for ETH price
1:18:23 - Closing
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🔗 GUEST LINKS
► Milk Road website: https://milkroad.com/pro/
► Milk Road on X: https://x.com/MilkRoadDaily
► John Gillen on X: https://x.com/BitcoinJesusETH
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► Follow DeFi Dad: https://x.com/DeFi_Dad
► Follow Nomatic: https://x.com/Nomaticcap
► Learn DeFi: http://defidad.com/
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DISCLAIMER: Nothing said on The Edge Podcast is a recommendation to buy or sell tokens or securities. This content is for educational and entertainment purposes only. Nothing shared here is financial advice. Any views expressed by hosts or guests on the show are solely their opinions. Always do your own research. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and guests may have positions in the assets or other matters discussed in this podcast. DeFi Dad, Nomatic, and John all hold ETH.