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    #363 Danielle DiMartino Booth: Powell's 'Patriotic' Stand Protecting Fed Independence, Fed Should Cut Despite Oil Prices, and Flirting With Liquidity Crisis as Non-Banks Too Big to Fail

    30/04/2026 | 38 mins.
    In this episode, Danielle DiMartino Booth, CEO of QI Research and former Fed insider, explains why she's "less fed up" despite disagreeing with Fed policy - praising Jerome Powell's decision to stay on as governor to protect Fed independence, drawing parallels to Marriner Eccles' 1948 stand against President Truman. Danielle calls Powell's move "patriotic" while warning we're "flirting with a liquidity crisis" as non-banks have become "too big to fail." She discusses the challenges Kevin Warsh will face as incoming chair, argues the Fed has failed its employment mandate, and explains how the economy cannot withstand persistently high oil prices and interest rates simultaneously.

    Links:
    Danielle's Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/dimartinobooth
    Substack: https://dimartinobooth.substack.com/
    YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@DanielleDiMartinoBoothQI
    Fed Up: https://www.amazon.com/Fed-Up-Insiders-Federal-Reserve/dp/0735211655

    Timestamps:
    0:00 Introduction - Fed day with Danielle DiMartino Booth
    0:32 Powell's last time at the podium - Takeaways
    1:48 The Eccles parallel - Fed independence fight in 1948
    2:39 Why Danielle is "less fed up" today
    2:57 The Powell move - Staying on as governor
    4:20 Risk of being perceived as shadow Fed chair?
    5:39 Triple hawkish dissent
    6:16 Unprecedented dissent levels - Early resistance signs?
    7:57 Powell's legacy and how it changed today
    9:22 The Eccles legacy - Established as governor, not chair
    10:27 Powell's move was "patriotic" - Protecting Fed independence
    11:27 What is your read on Kevin Warsh?
    12:48 Liquidity crises take precedence - The Mike Tyson test
    13:40 0% chance of rate cut - Should they have cut?
    14:47 Fed has failed its employment mandate
    16:48 Oil prices and disinflationary demand destruction
    17:17 Bankruptcies accelerating, layoffs increasing
    18:01 Home prices falling - Thinking about inflation wrong
    19:16 The valley of death at $100k income level
    19:32 Higher for longer means more pain
    20:34 How does building consensus at the Fed work?
    22:04 Flirting with a liquidity crisis - How big is the risk?
    22:38 Pummeling the housing market
    23:26 More sellers than buyers - Biggest disconnect ever
    24:09 Investment boom or panic stockpiling ahead of tariffs?
    25:27 Economy can't withstand high oil and high rates
    28:07 Base case for rest of 2026 - Fed cuts
    30:43 If you could advise Kevin Warsh, what would you say?
    32:17 Bloomberg chat - hot takes with institutional investors
    33:34 What's keeping you up at night and making you hopeful?
    35:37 Non-banks now too big to fail
    37:06 Systemic risk from non-banking system
    37:25 Mother's Day tribute - Legacy and three graduating kids
    38:03 Closing thoughts
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    #362 Chris Whalen: DOJ Drops Powell Probe — "Trump Could Be Attacking Warsh By Thanksgiving," Stagflation Is the Base Case, The Real Private Credit Risk, & Why Distressed Real Estate Is The Next Trade

    25/04/2026 | 44 mins.
    In this episode of The Wrap, Chris Whalen breaks down what's really driving the rally, why the inflationary impact of the Iran war will stay with us through the end of 2026, and why the Fed's hands are essentially tied regardless of who sits in the chair. Chris also digs into Q1 bank earnings — what the numbers are really saying about credit risk, why most banks are still refusing to disclose their private credit exposures, and why he believes the debt in these deals will ultimately be converted to equity — with retail and institutional investors left holding the bag. Plus: commercial real estate as a long-term drag on cities, the New York pied-à-terre tax as political theater, gold and silver ETF picks, and why Chris says the U.S. equity market would be "comfortable with the devil by lunchtime."

    Thank you to our partners at Goldco. Get your free 2026 Gold & Silver Kit at https://goldco.com/thewrap or call 855-573-0817

    Links:    The Institutional Risk Analyst: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/  The Wrap: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/post/theira837Inflated book (2nd edition): https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/inflated-r-christopher-whalen/1146303673Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/rcwhalen    "Homework" from Chris :) https://shanakaanslemperera.substack.com/p/the-reserve-barbell

    Use the code TheWrap2026 for 25% off your first year of The Institutional Risk Analyst https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/plans-pricing

    Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro
    0:27 Breaking news — DOJ drops Powell probe, Chris reacts
    2:03 Chris's assessment of Powell — "Mediocre"
    2:18 "The burning tire of home price affordability"
    3:58 "He could be attacking Warsh by Thanksgiving"
    5:49 Does Warsh come in as a hawk?
    9:45 Main episode begins
    10:15 Middle East/Iran update
    12:56 Stagflation is the base case
    15:00 Truflation viewer question
    16:50 Spirit Airlines bailout
    20:32 Kevin Warsh hearing circus
    23:29 VantageScore — "election year press release"
    27:15 D. Ricardo's letter on private credit
    29:00 NVIDIA — "I would not be a buyer"
    30:54 The generational experience gap
    31:49 "You think we may get a crisis this year?"
    32:45 Share repurchases — "funded with debt"
    34:06 Gold homework — Reserve Barbell
    37:07 The passive bid
    38:00 Viewer Q — community banks
    40:11 Viewer Q — Did Chris lock in his mortgage?
    42:11 FOMC next week
    42:30 "Distressed real estate is the next trade"
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    #361 Dr. Mark Thornton: We're on the Highway to Hyperinflation

    21/04/2026 | 59 mins.
    Dr. Mark Thornton, Senior Fellow at the Mises Institute and Austrian economist, returns to the show to deliver a sweeping macro warning rooted in Austrian business cycle theory. After 16 years of Fed-fueled boom, he argues we are somewhere in the middle of a cycle that ends in crisis. He unpacks the Cantillon Effect and its direct link to the K-shaped economy, explains why gold is both a canary in the coal mine and a personal financial fire extinguisher, and makes the case that the petrodollar is unraveling in real time — pushing us further down what he calls "the highway to hyperinflation." Despite the dark outlook, Dr. Thornton closes with genuine optimism: Austrian economics is experiencing a rebirth, and the bottom-up solutions it champions are resonating louder than ever.

    Links
    X: https://x.com/DrMarkThornton
    Free Hayek book: https://store.mises.org/Hayek-for-the-21st-Century-P11367.aspx
    Mises Institute: https://mises.org/profile/mark-thornton

    Timestamps:
    0:00 Intro and welcome Dr. Mark Thornton
    1:24 – 16 years of boom: What the Fed has really been doing
    3:45 – The K-shaped economy and who's actually winning
    6:32 – Where are we in the cycle? Signposts that worry him most
    8:17 – Private equity, private credit & "sequestered capital"
    10:20 – How Dr. Thornton discovered Austrian economics
    7:57 – The Cantillon Effect explained: Who gets new money first
    20:48 – The Skyscraper Index: Record buildings predict crises
    23:25 – Bubbles, billionaires & trillion-dollar fortunes
    25:23 – Federal Reserve outlook: Rate cuts off the table?
    27:15 – Kevin Warsh, the Fed's "real mandate" & what they won't admit
    29:40 – Gold, silver & oil: What precious metals are telling us now
    31:30 – Gold as a "canary in the coal mine" AND a "fire extinguisher"
    37:02 – Are gold and silver going much higher from here?
    38:24 – Why record stock markets are actually dangerous
    40:45 – The highway to hyperinflation: Has anything changed?
    44:46 – The end of the petrodollar and US reserve currency status
    47:16 – BRICS, crypto & the unraveling of dollar dominance
    49:39 – The Middle East war's hidden impact on food, fertilizer & global supply chains
    53:46 – Where to find the Mises Institute & parting thoughts
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    #360 Chris Whalen: Even If We Cut a Deal Today Inflation Is Not Behind Us

    18/04/2026 | 37 mins.
    In this episode of The Wrap, Chris Whalen breaks down what's really driving the rally, why the inflationary impact of the Iran war will stay with us through the end of 2026, and why the Fed's hands are essentially tied regardless of who sits in the chair. Chris also digs into Q1 bank earnings — what the numbers are really saying about credit risk, why most banks are still refusing to disclose their private credit exposures, and why he believes the debt in these deals will ultimately be converted to equity — with retail and institutional investors left holding the bag. Plus: commercial real estate as a long-term drag on cities, the New York pied-à-terre tax as political theater, gold and silver ETF picks, and why Chris says the U.S. equity market would be "comfortable with the devil by lunchtime."

    Thank you to our partners at Goldco. Get your free 2026 Gold & Silver Kit at https://goldco.com/thewrap

    Links:    
    The Institutional Risk Analyst: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/ 
    The Wrap: https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/post/theira826
    Inflated book (2nd edition): https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/inflated-r-christopher-whalen/1146303673
    Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/rcwhalen    

    Use the code TheWrap2026 for 25% off your first year of The Institutional Risk Analyst https://www.theinstitutionalriskanalyst.com/plans-pricing

    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Introduction & kicking off with this week's Wrap
    00:52 Markets surging on Iran/Strait of Hormuz news — Chris's initial take
    02:30 — Why inflation won't go away even if a deal is struck today
    04:41 — FOMC outlook — no cuts expected, Fed on hold
    05:21 — Trump's threat to fire Powell — why it won't happen and why the approach is backfiring
    10:40 — War Powers Act and the 60-day congressional clock — what happens next
    11:49 — Q1 Bank Earnings overview — revenue up, credit costs falling, but private credit disclosure disappoints
    14:29 — Commercial real estate
    16:30 — Housing market
    17:24 — New York pied-à-terre tax — politics or policy?
    20:16 — CRE as a long-term drag on city tax revenues, not an acute crisis
    21:44 — Private credit disclosure — what questions remain after earnings
    22:49 — "Private credit will become equity" — Chris explains the mechanics
    24:49 — Red Lobster as the perfect example of debt-to-equity conversion
    25:08 — Who are the losers? Retail, institutional investors — and some regional banks
    25:29 — John Ray III's warning: regional banks are holding the bag on private credit
    26:25 — Viewer Q: Trapped Fed — rate cuts, QE, or yield curve control in a stagflation scenario?
    28:06 — Viewer Q: Which gold ETFs is Chris buying right now?
    29:15 — Viewer Q: Why does the market keep taking Trump's word on Iran?
    31:05 — Stocks vs. bonds in inflationary periods — why income assets are the play
    32:22 — Is Chris more optimistic than usual? His take on doom and gloom narratives
    33:27 — Closing thoughts, where to find Chris, and GoldCo sponsor message
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    #360 Michael Howell: We've Hit An Inflection Point — We're In The Speculation Phase And Turbulence Is Coming For Markets

    17/04/2026 | 1h 2 mins.
    Michael Howell, CEO of CrossBorder Capital, an investment advisory firm, and author of Capital Wars, returns to The Julia La Roche Show, returns seven months after his last appearance to update his Global Liquidity call. The peak he flagged for Q3 2025 has held, and the cycle now points to a trough in 2027. Despite the Iran conflict and market volatility, Michael argues the world economy is actually holding up better than the media suggests — but that's almost the problem, because money flowing into the real economy is draining it from financial markets. He explains why the current rally is phoney, why bond term premia falling is actually a flight to safety signal not a selloff, and why we're in the Speculation phase — where economies feel strongest right before things get difficult. He walks through his full asset allocation traffic light system, the debt liquidity nexus, why the Fed and Treasury may be secretly targeting the MOVE index to protect the basis trade and collateral system, the COVID-era debt maturity wall now coming due, and why raising interest rates in today's world may actually be stimulative — not contractionary — because the government is the biggest borrower and higher rates just transfer more income to the private sector. He closes on Treasury QE replacing Fed QE and what it means for Bitcoin.

    Links: 
    Website: http://www.crossbordercapital.com/
    Twitter/X https://x.com/crossbordercap
    Substack: https://capitalwars.substack.com/
    Book: https://www.amazon.com/Capital-Wars-Rise-Global-Liquidity/dp/3030392902

    00:00 — Introduction and welcome back Michael
    01:15 — Where we are in the liquidity cycle — asset allocation clock and the five to six year cycle
    05:15 — Julia asks about the phoney rally — Michael digs in
    05:35 — The AI-based World GDP model — Iran far less damaging than tariffs or COVID
    09:37 — All money anywhere must be somewhere — why a stronger real economy drains financial markets
    13:18 — The sine wave estimated 25 years ago — peak Q3 2025, trough 2027
    15:37 — Daily granular liquidity data — the downtrend confirmed
    17:16 — How to stay positioned without getting whipsawed by relief rallies
    18:49 — What bonds are really saying — breaking down term premia vs policy rates
    22:42 — The Speculation phase — economies feel strongest right before it gets hard
    23:45 — The yield curve as liquidity barometer — why steepening consensus was wrong
    27:15 — The winter analogy — don't go outside in a swimsuit during winter
    29:40 — The asset allocation traffic lights — what to own at each phase
    33:51 — Julia asks what gets exposed when the tide goes out
    34:27 — The debt liquidity nexus — 80% of transactions are refinancing, 77% of lending is collateral based
    36:53 — The MOVE index — why bond volatility governs the entire collateral multiplier
    37:49 — Why Michael thinks the Fed and Treasury are quietly targeting the MOVE index
    40:30 — What happens if they stop capping it — basis trade collapses, collateral doom loop
    42:18 — The debt maturity wall — COVID debt turned out to end of decade, now coming back
    48:34 — The Fed is preoccupied with the wrong tool — the world has fundamentally changed
    51:00 — The Alice in Wonderland problem — raising rates today is actually stimulative
    53:00 — Kevin Warsh and the balance sheet — why slashing it is impractical right now
    54:23 — Treasury QE replacing Fed QE — short end issuance, monetization into real economy
    57:17 — Bitcoin and crypto — Treasury QE stabilization vs the bigger falling liquidity force
    01:00:02 — Final thoughts — count liquidity, get corroboration, don't rely on one club

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Julia La Roche brings her listeners in-depth conversations with some of the top CEOs, investors, founders, academics, and rising stars in business. Guests on "The Julia La Roche Show" have included Bill Ackman, Ray Dalio, Marc Benioff, Kyle Bass, Hugh Hendry, Nassim Taleb, Nouriel Roubini, David Friedberg, Anthony Scaramucci, Scott Galloway, Brent Johnson, Jim Rickards, Danielle DiMartino Booth, Carol Roth, Neil Howe, Jim Rogers, Jim Bianco, Josh Brown, and many more. Julia always makes the show about the guest, never the host. She speaks less and listens more. She always does her homework.
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