Behind The Knife: The Surgery Podcast

The majority of non-fatal gunshot wound survivors walk away with a bullet still inside them. Most are discharged without a removal attempt, without a surveillance plan, and without a conversation about what comes next. This episode fills that gap.
Dr. Patrick Georgoff is joined by BIG T co-host Dr. Teddy Puzio (UT Houston), gun violence survivor and trauma surgeon Dr. Madhu Subramanian (Duke), and Dr. Tyler Simpson (Duke ACS Fellow) for a practical, honest conversation about one of trauma's most overlooked topics.
What we cover:

Epidemiology: how common retained fragments really are, and why the downstream burden is underappreciated

When to remove (and when not to): a framework for both index hospitalization and delayed removal

Forensic evidence: how to handle bullets in the OR without destroying their evidentiary value — and who to call when you don't know

Lead toxicity: the rare but real complication that can surface a decade later, which blood lead levels should prompt action, and when to call hematology or toxicology

The psychology: retained bullets are independently associated with depression and reduced return to work — and that belongs in the risk-benefit conversation

DOMINATE THE DAY
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This episode of Big T Trauma was sponsored by Teleflex, a global provider of medical devices. Learn more at teleflex.com and at the Teleflex Trauma and Emergency Medicine LinkedIn page.
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In this episode, hosts Drs. Maya Hunt, Nicole Santucci, Bryanna Stukes and Zoe Zhou explore the parallels between the literacy crisis in America and current challenges in surgical education, drawing insights from the podcast "Sold a Story." They discuss how both systems advance learners without true competency, blame struggling students rather than examining flawed teaching methods, and look to the promise of competency-based education as a path forward. Beyond surgical training, they examine how declining literacy rates will directly impact how we communicate with and care for our future patients.
Episode Hosts:
–Dr. Maya Hunt, Indiana University
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-Dr. Nicole Santucci, Washington University in St. Louis
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-Dr. Bryanna Stukes, UT Southwestern
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-Dr. Nanruoyi (Zoe) Zhou, Weill Cornell Medicine
[email protected]

–CoSEF: @surgedfellows, cosef.org

References:
1.        Sold A Story: How teaching kids to read went so wrong | podcast. Accessed February 22, 2026. https://features.apmreports.org/sold-a-story/.
2.        2024-2025 Literacy Statistics. National Literacy Institute. Accessed February 22, 2026. https://www.thenationalliteracyinstitute.com/2024-2025-literacy-statistics.
3.        Purdy AC, Smith BR, Amersi F, et al. Characteristics Associated With Outstanding General Surgery Residency Graduate Performance, as Rated by Surgical Educators. JAMA Surg. 2022;157(10):918-924. doi:10.1001/jamasurg.2022.3340 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35947371/
4.        Santosa KB, Lussiez A, Bellomo TR, et al. Identifying Strategies for Struggling Surgery Residents. J Surg Res. 2022;273:147-154. doi:10.1016/j.jss.2021.12.026 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/35085942/

5.        Mattar SG, Alseidi AA, Jones DB, et al. General surgery residency inadequately prepares trainees for fellowship: results of a survey of fellowship program directors. Ann Surg. 2013;258(3):440-449. doi:10.1097/SLA.0b013e3182a191ca https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/24022436/

6.        George BC, Bohnen JD, Williams RG, et al. Readiness of US General Surgery Residents for Independent Practice. Ann Surg. 2017;266(4):582-594. doi:10.1097/SLA.0000000000002414 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28742711/

7.        Brasel KJ, Lindeman B, Jones A, et al. Implementation of Entrustable Professional Activities in General Surgery: Results of a National Pilot Study. Ann Surg. 2023;278(4):578-586. doi:10.1097/SLA.0000000000005991 https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37436883/

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Ileocolic resection is one of the most common operations performed for Crohn's disease, yet the optimal approach to anastomotic construction and mesenteric management remains an active area of debate. From the configuration of the anastomosis to the extent of mesenteric excision, emerging evidence suggests that surgical technique may play a meaningful role in disease outcomes. Join Drs. Jared Hendren, Elissa Dabaghi, Joseph Trunzo, Ajaratu Keshinro, and David Rosen as they discuss methods for ileocolic anastomosis in Crohn's disease while reviewing the latest literature.
Hosts: 
- Jared Hendren, MD
Institution: Department of General Surgery, Digestive Disease Institute, Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland, Ohio
- Elissa Dabaghi, MD
Institution: Department of General Surgery, Digestive Disease Institute, Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland, Ohio
- Joseph Trunzo, MD
Institution: Department of Colon and Rectal Surgery, Digestive Disease Institute, Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland, Ohio
X/Twitter @joseph_trunzo
- Ajaratu Keshinro, MD
Institution: Department of Colon and Rectal Surgery, Digestive Disease Institute, Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland, Ohio
X/Twitter- @AJKesh
- David Rosen, MD
Institution: Department of Colon and Rectal Surgery, Digestive Disease Institute, Cleveland Clinic Foundation, Cleveland, Ohio
X/Twitter- @davidrrosenmd
Learning Objectives: By the end of this episode, listeners will be able to:
1.     Evaluate the evidence for the Kono-S anastomosis in reducing postoperative recurrence after ileocolic resection for Crohn's disease
2.     Describe the role of the mesentery in driving recurrence and discuss how mesenteric-targeting surgical approaches may influence outcomes
3.     Interpret the results of recent randomized controlled trials on extended mesenteric excision and apply them to surgical decision-making in ileocolic resection for Crohn's disease
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As cancer vaccines move into Phase II and III clinical trials, it is
increasingly important for surgeons to understand their role in this
evolving landscape. What exactly are these vaccines, how do they work,
and what should the surgical community know about their
implementation? Join BTK surgical education fellows Kara Button and
Michelle LaBella as they sit down with Professor Robert Jones to break
down the science of mRNA vaccines, the logistics of tissue
procurement, and the future of cancer care.
Hosts:
- Professor Robert Jones: Consultant Liver Surgeon, Liverpool University
Hospitals; UK National Institute for Healthcare Research, Co-Lead for
the Cancer Vaccine Innovation Pathway, Bowel Cancer UK and Royal
College of Surgeons UK Lead for Research into Advanced Bowel Cancer,
and UK Chief Investigator for the BNT122-01 trial.
https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-jones-6103722a/
- Kara Button, DO: General Surgery Resident, Maine Medical Center;
Behind the Knife Surgical Education Fellow.
- Michelle LaBella, MD: General Surgery Resident; University of North
Carolina; Behind the Knife Surgical Education Fellow.
References:
https://clinicaltrials.biontech.com/trials/BNT122-01
Jones RP, Lee LYW, Corrie PG, et al. Individualized cancer vaccines
versus surveillance after adjuvant chemotherapy for surgically
resected high-risk stage 2 and stage 3 colorectal cancer: protocol for
a randomized trial. BJS. 2023;110(12):1883-1884.
doi:10.1093/bjs/znad332
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37856683/
Tie J, Wang Y, Loree JM, et al. Circulating tumor DNA-guided adjuvant
therapy in locally advanced colon cancer: the randomized phase 2/3
DYNAMIC-III trial. Nat Med. 2025;31(12):4291-4300.
doi:10.1038/s41591-025-04030-w
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/41115959/
Rojas LA, Sethna Z, Soares KC, et al. Personalized RNA neoantigen
vaccines stimulate T cells in pancreatic cancer. Nature.
2023;618(7963):144-150. doi:10.1038/s41586-023-06063-y
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37165196/
https://www.cancer.ox.ac.uk/research/lynchvax#:~:text=The%20LynchVax%20program%2C%20funded%20by,individuals%20with%20this%20genetic%20condition
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Can an algorithm actually give you your life back? A recent Stanford paper revealed that using large language models at home yields massive efficiency gains—up to 176%. For busy surgeons drowning in clinical duties and administrative bloat, every reclaimed second is priceless.
In this episode of Behind the Knife, Ayman and Patrick sit down with Christian Péan—an orthopedic trauma surgeon, Duke’s Executive Director of AI and IT Innovation, and the Founder/CEO of RevelAi Health. He’s also a Core faculty member at the Duke-Margolis Institute for Health Policy. Dr. Péan breaks down how naturally skeptical surgeons can adopt AI to save time, shares his granular daily workflow, and discusses his mission to cure physician burnout through tech. Whether you are a tech enthusiast or a total skeptic, this episode gives you the practical playbook for integrating AI into your surgical career today.
Hosts:
- Ayman Ali, MD
Ayman Ali is a PGY-4 at Duke Hospital and current Behind the Knife fellow.
- Patrick Georgoff, MD @georgoff
Patrick Georgoff is faculty in the Department of Surgery at the Duke University School of Medicine where he serves as an Associate Professor of Trauma, Acute, and Critical Care Surgery and Trauma Medical Director. He is a leading educator and creator for Behind the Knife, a premier digital education platform and podcast advancing surgical training through innovative, high-yield multimedia content.
- Christian Péan, MD @DrChristianPean
Christian Péan is faculty in the Department of Orthopaedic Surgery at the Duke University School of Medicine where he serves as Executive Director of AI and IT Innovation. He is the Founder and CEO of RevelAi Health, a health technology company advancing the transition to value-based care in musculoskeletal health with conversational AI. He is also author of the popular substack Techy Surgeon.  
https://www.revelaihealth.com/
https://techysurgeon.substack.com/
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