171: Kazeem Jamal on the importance of finding the funny side
This week we’ve been out every night, committing crimes (twocking Nokias, cussing at ducklings, stealing the dust caps off your dad’s tyres) all to attract the attention of South-London Batman himself – and this week’s guest – Kazeem Jama.
A comedian so entertaining he almost makes you hate yourself slightly less for being on Instagram all the goddam time, Kazeem has been liberally lubricating the amusement pipes on the BBC, Comedy Central and the Mobo Awards.
Before comedy grabbed him by the earlobe and dragged him over to the funny side, Kazeem spent decades working in the education sector, primarily with children with special needs and in alternative education – making him humorous and kind-hearted enough to make us all feel really bad about our own decisions, especially the terrible stuff we said to those ducklings.
This episode is proudly dedicated to the people who shaped Kazeem: his mum, his dad, his kids, and all the doubters along the way.
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Timestamps
02:50 - Kazim's Uncommon Path: From Rugby to Comedy
07:51 - Ownership: The Key to Kazim's Comedy Journey
11:26 - Drama Class: The Shy Comedian's Dilemma
12:52 - Channelling Frustration: The Sports Outlet
18:30 - Stage vs. Socials: The Comedy Landscape
21:26 - Navigating Tough Topics: Kazim's Approach
27:06 - The Unexpected Funeral Laugh
31:03 - Nine-to-Five vs. Comedy Dreams: The Struggle
34:08 - Attention, Skill, Monetizing: The Comedy Cycle
39:03 - The Art of Not Giving a Damn: Embracing the Process
42:48 - Comedy Contracts: The Safe Space Agreement
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170: Marcus du Sautoy on how to see the stories in numbers
This week we rented the top 3 maths movies of all time – A Beautiful Mind, The Imitation Game and 3 Men and a Baby – all in order to be mathematically competent enough to share a pod with one of the world’s greatest number nibblers, Marcus du Sautoy.
So highly acclaimed and awarded, we could have filled the entire podcast by listing out his many achievements, Marcus is perhaps best known as a Professor in Mathematics, Fellow of the Royal Society and Simonyi Professor for the Public Understanding of Science at Oxford University.
But, as well as being one of the very smartest people on the planet, he’s also one of the most engaging and enlightening speakers on the unexpected stories to be found in numbers, having written for several national newspapers and appeared on a number of mathematically-inclined TV shows including Mind Games, The Story of Maths and The Code (not to be confused with The Cube).
By now you’ve probably run out of fingers to tally up all the brilliant things he’s done, so we shall just wrap up by saying he’s also the author of a series of superb books examining the relationship between maths, creativity, music, games and more – including Blue Prints, The Music of Primes and The Creativity Code.
(Basically, the fact that it took us all this time to mention he’s also an OBE tells you all you need to know. He’s an impressive dude.)
In an episode where Giles wears his disappointing GCSE results like a hi-vis vest of inadequacy, we ponder the search for meaning in numbers and how the stories behind them can help shape ideas and solve problems.
This episode is proudly dedicated to Mr Baleson.
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Timestamps
04:17 - The Influence of a Great Teacher
06:03 - Mathematics as a Language and Creative Outlet
08:44 - The Intersection of Mathematics and the Arts
12:08 - Exploring Creativity in Mathematics
15:17 - The Relationship Between Structure and Artistic Expression
21:10 - The Cicada's Prime Number Life Cycle
30:51 - Patterns and Expectations in Art and Comedy
33:09 - The Role of Mathematics in Problem Solving
43:15 - The Importance of Storytelling in Science
46:25 - The Search for Meaning in Numbers
48:13 - The Dual Nature of Scientific Thinking
Marcus’ Book recommendations are:
A Mathematician’s Apology by G.H. Hardy
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169: Richard Shotton and MichaelAaron Flicker on hacking the human mind.
This week we broke a golden rule and crossed podcast streams with a pair of excellent guests, Richard Shotton and MichaelAaron Flicker, hosts of the Behavioural Science for Brands podcast and co-authors of the soon-to-be released (and definitely-to-be brilliant) Hacking The Human Mind.
Richard is, of course, returning for a record third appearance on Call To Action® although we have respectfully honoured his request to not be left alone with Giles. Responsible for opening industry eyes to the potential of behavioural science, Richard is the author of two books that serious marketing types like you and I could not do without – The Choice Factory and The Illusion of Choice.
Alongside him today, as is so often the case, is MichaelAaron Flicker, founder and president of (Zeeenno-Sigh) XenoPsi Ventures, a brand incubator firm that helps out all kinds of companies with financial, marketing and intellectual capital. As well as co-hosting their pod, and co-authoring their book, they’ve completed a hattrick of Co’s by co-founding the Consumer Behaviour Lab, where they apply their considerable collective knowledge to help make marketing smarter, better and less stinky.
In an episode where we open the sunroof on the human mind and reveal there’s much more to it than day dreams, crippling doubt and song lyrics from 1996, we hear from two of the field’s most compelling experts on what it really takes for a brand to be chosen.
This episode is proudly dedicated to Rory Sutherland.
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Timestamps
08:27 - Reflections on Career Path and Pivots
10:09 - Richard's Tribute to Ozzy Osbourne
12:39 - How Richard and Michael Met
14:22 - The Concept Behind Their New Book
16:01 - Writing Process and Collaboration Insights
20:21 - Discussion on Haagen-Dazs and Country of Origin Effect
25:04 - The Power of Naming: Patagonian Toothfish vs. Chilean Sea Bass
30:07 - Marketing Confusion Between Marketing and Sales
Their Book Recommendations are:
Alchemy by Rory Sutherland
Tiny Habits by BJ Fogg
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168: Professor Byron Sharp on a lifetime of learning in the marketing world
This week we tucked in our shirt, straightened our tie and resisted the temptation to nip off for a quick vape behind the pickle-ball court, all in order to suitably impress our guest, one of the world’s greatest marketing academics, Professor Byron Sharp.
A man who would need no introduction (if we weren’t contractually obliged to provide all our pod guests with one) Prof Byron is one of the world’s most respected thinkers in the field of brands and consumer behaviour.
Unless you’re deliberately trying to get yourself fired from your marketing role, you’ll no doubt have read his seminal book ‘How Brands Grow’ and, if you’re especially lucky, you may well have learned directly from the man himself in one of his globally prestigious academic roles.
A speaker, a teacher, a thinker and a pioneering researcher, Byron still has the time to be a thoroughly entertaining podcast guest, and is famously happy to share the kind of knee-buckling market truth that the industry fears but also really, really needs.
In an episode where Byron jabs a scholarly finger into the flabby thinking that holds brands back, we ponder the many different disciplines a proper marketer should be able to wrap their heads around if they want a consumer to care.
This episode is proudly dedicated to John Scriven.
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Timestamps
03:27 - Early Jobs and Academia
04:38 - The Importance of Real-World Experience
06:09 - Working with Andrew Ehrenberg
08:28 - The Intent Behind "How Brands Grow"
09:41 - Marketing Blind Spots and Unexplored Areas
10:30 - Cognitive Biases and Behavioral Science
11:48 - The Role of Heuristics in Consumer Behavior
12:43 - Understanding Double Jeopardy Law
14:08 - Consumer Efficiency vs. Laziness
15:26 - Predictive Power of Marketing Science
16:06 - The Weirdness of the Real World
17:37 - Misconceptions About Marketing Science
19:40 - The Role of Synthetic Research
32:58 - B2B Marketing and Growth Strategies
35:22 - The Value of Awards in Marketing
Byron's Book recommendations are:
The Halo Effect by Phil Rosenzweig
Everything is Obvious by Duncan Watts
The Signal and the Noise by Nate Silver
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167: Lisa Parfitt on doing the business for women’s sport.
This week we’re pushing our withered hamstrings way beyond their wretched limits, all in order to win the attention of our guest, sport and brand marketing super-baller Lisa Parfitt.
In a career that has been, figuratively, one top bin after the other, Lisa has done more than most to give women’s sport a serious platform, particularly when it comes to those all-important commercial relationships.
A star player in the efforts to land the Women’s FA Cup their first brand sponsorship, Lisa can be found on the prestigious pages of PR Week’s Power 100 for her work in pushing for greater representation for women in the sports business.
Having gone toe-to-toe with the inequalities in the game in her time as both a Level 1 coach and director, she now devotes her considerable skills and stamina to creating better, fairer and more sustainable partnerships, sponsorships and culture in the game.
In an episode with absolutely no time wasting, even for the occasional glug of branded energy pop, we ponder everything from the unique brand value of fans of women sport, to how the game is changing, in both sporting and commercial ways.
This episode is proudly dedicated to Karen Earl.
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Timestamps
04:34 - Transitioning to the Sports Industry
10:31 - First Job in Women's Sport
12:18 - The Shift to Sponsorship and Commercial Focus
15:32 - The Role of Brands in Women's Sport
20:10 - Securing the First Women's FA Cup Partnership
26:32 - The Impact of COVID on Women's Sport
30:35 - Research on Women's Sports Fans Engagement
36:59 - The Future of Women's Sport and Upcoming Events
42:06 - Changing Perceptions in Women's Sport
Lisa's Book Recommendations are:
Eat Sweat Play - Anna Kessel
Why She Buys - Bridget Brennan
Game On - Sue Anstiss
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