Creating content has never been easier – but breaking through the noise has gotten harder. The only reliable way to grow as a creator is through observation, ex...
#237: Rachel Botsman – Trust expert on how you can earn trust with your audience
Rachel Botsman is a leading expert on trust in the modern world. She is the author of 3 critically acclaimed books, What's Mine is Yours, Who Can You Trust, and How to Trust and Be Trusted, that have been translated into 14 languages.
That last one, How to Trust and Be Trusted, is brand new and actually just released today in audio only, which is a fascinating decision that we'll also discuss later in the conversation.
Rachel is consistently recognized as a top keynote speaker, and her TED Talks have been viewed more than 5,000,000 times. If there's anyone who understands trust more than Rachel, I haven't found them yet.
→ How to Trust and Be Trusted - Audible & Spotify
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#236: Mike Michalowicz – How the author of Profit First stays lean by licensing his ideas
Mike Michalowicz is the author of Profit First, which is used by hundreds of thousands of companies across the globe to drive profit – Creator Science is one of those companies. Profit First has helped me develop sound financials for my business.
He’s also the author of Clockwork, a powerful method to make any business run on automatic, and seven other books as well.
With more than 500,000 book sales, all of Mike’s books have the same goal – to help small business owners and eliminate what he calls “entrepreneurial poverty.” Simon Sinek has called Mike “…the top contender for the patron saint of entrepreneurs.”
This conversation is divided into halves:
The first half explores Mike’s unique model as an author. For each book Mike writes, he partners with a third party to license the frameworks from his books and serve as the done-for-you service provider. This is super uncommon and part of why he’s been so prolific while running a very lean team. So we dig into how that works (and what he’d do differently if he were starting over today).
The second half of the conversation is all about writing books. Mike has published nine books since 2008 – including 7 in the last 8 years. So we dig into how he determines what ideas to turn into books and how to write them so quickly.
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#234: Garrett Kennell – How thinking big helped Michelle Khare attract 4.8 million subscribers
Garrett Kennell is the Chief Creative Officer for - and husband to - Michelle Khare. Garrett has been working on the channel since Michelle’s very first video all the way back in 2016.
Since that first video, their channel has grown to nearly 5 million subscribers and has over 740 million views, making it one of the most intense and complicated productions YouTube has ever seen. Their secret? They have a process for everything.
In this episode, Garrett breaks some of those processes down, including brainstorming, decision-making, and how YOU can start to make bigger, better videos at any scale.
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TIMESTAMPS
(00:00) The Most Insane Production on YouTube
(01:33) How Michelle Khare’s Channel Evolved
(07:14) How Much a Michelle Khare Video Costs
(10:19) Grow Your Podcast With Spotify
(11:36) Bono’s Six Thinking Hats
(17:43) Getting Rejected
(21:20) Thinking Big
(23:51) How Challenge Accepted Gets Made
(29:23) Making Content for Impact
(32:34) When is Something Done?
(34:07) Where Do Things Go Wrong?
(39:44) Systems and Processes
(43:48) Getting Sponsors
(48:55) Advice to Grow Quickly
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Creating content has never been easier – but breaking through the noise has gotten harder. The only reliable way to grow as a creator is through observation, experimentation, and iteration.
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