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  • Legacy, Liberty & Laughter: Dan James & Dan Steers on Partnership, Performance & Paying It Forward
    Episode Summary: In this exciting episode, Dr. Elizabeth James is joined by both Dans of Double Dan Horsemanship—Dan James and Dan Steers—for a rare, wide-ranging conversation about their legacy, the evolution of Liberty horsemanship, and the deep bond that has fueled their partnership for nearly two decades. From the invention of the Liberty beanbag to the story behind their first horse that could sit on cue, this episode is filled with never-before-heard stories, unfiltered humor, and powerful reflections on what it means to share knowledge instead of hoard it. You’ll also get a sneak peek at what they’re bringing to the 2025 Liberty Festival, including their new "Foundations in Freedom" concept and a long-awaited return to the U.S. performance arena—together. Whether you're a longtime fan or new to Liberty horsemanship, this episode will leave you inspired, entertained, and more than a little tempted to join us in Lexington this October. Highlights: The true story behind the first-ever Liberty beanbag sit When everything went wrong in the arena—and how humor saved the day The evolution of Double Dan from performers to educators Why generosity is the new competitive edge in horsemanship What to expect from their exclusive new session at the 2025 Liberty Festival: Foundations in Freedom Key Moments 00:02:27 The Origins of Double Dan Horsemanship 00:07:34. Early Liberty Training Experiences 00:10:44. Developing Liberty Acts at El Caballo Blanco 00:15:26. Transition from Performing to Teaching Liberty 00:35:33. Foundations in Freedom at the Liberty Festival 00:47:31. Upcoming Performances and Special Guests 00:53:13. Liberty Principles in Performance Horsemanship 00:56:57. Closing Thoughts on the Double Dan Partnership Chapter Summaries The Origins of Double Dan HorsemanshipDan Steers shares how he got introduced to horses at age 14 and his early experiences with liberty training. He discusses his mentor Pete Weber and his first horse Susie, who became the foundation for his liberty work. 00:07:34 Early Liberty Training Experiences - Dan Steers recounts stories of riding his mare Susie bareback and bridleless as a young trainer, including riding to the grocery store. He shares how these experiences shaped his early confidence and skills with liberty work. 00:10:44 Developing Liberty Acts at El Caballo Blanco - The Dans discuss how they started working together at El Caballo Blanco, developing their liberty acts and stunts. They recount creating signature moves like having two horses sit on a beanbag while another jumps through. 00:15:26 Transition from Performing to Teaching Liberty - The hosts explore how Dan Steers and Dan James transitioned from performing to teaching liberty clinics. They credit Heath Harris for pushing them towards teaching and helping develop a systematic approach to liberty training. 00:35:33 Foundations in Freedom at the Liberty Festival - The hosts discuss a new session at the upcoming Liberty Festival called "Foundations in Freedom," where multiple trainers will start horses at liberty over three days, demonstrating different methods for beginners. 00:47:31 Upcoming Performances and Special Guests - The Dans discuss their upcoming performance at Quarter Horse Congress and the Liberty Festival. They express excitement about special guest Frédéric Pignon attending the festival, calling him one of the greatest liberty trainers of all time. 00:53:13 Liberty Principles in Performance Horsemanship - Dan Steers shares how he applies liberty training principles to competitive performance disciplines like reining and cow horse. He discusses finding a balance between natural horsemanship philosophy and competitive success. 00:56:57 Closing Thoughts on Double Dan Partnership - The hosts reflect on the unique and enduring partnership between Dan Steers and Dan James, praising their ability to maintain a successful business and friendship across countries and life changes over many years.
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  • Who is Steve Rother: The Liberty Trainer You Need To Know
    In this episode of Life at Liberty - The Official Podcast of the International Liberty Horse Association, proudly sponsored by Brave Horse CBD, host Dan James from Double Dan Horsemanship sits down with renowned Liberty trainer, Steve Rother. Steve shares his unique journey, which began with wild BLM Mustangs and grew into a deep expertise in Liberty horsemanship. Through guidance from legends like John Lyons, Pat Parelli, and Bill Lawrence, Steve transformed from a mustang handler to one of the world's top Liberty trainers. Listen in as Dan and Steve discuss his evolution as a trainer, the impact of wild horses on his method, and his signature performances, including his famous Guaracha act. Catch Steve Rother live at the 2024 Liberty Festival, October 10th -13th at the Kentucky Horse Park!
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  • Real Talk Roundtable (Recorded at the 2023 Liberty Festival)
    Looking for more than the standard interview? Ever wondered what happens when some of the world’s top horse trainers sit down for an unfiltered, candid chat? In this special episode of *Life at Liberty*, we bring you the Real Talk Roundtable from the 2023 Liberty Festival, featuring Ty Murray, Warwick Schiller, Ben Atkinson, and Georgie Atkinson. Join us as these renowned trainers dive deep into their personal journeys, training philosophies, and what fuels their passion for horses. This isn’t your average conversation—it’s raw, real, and filled with the kind of honesty that makes you feel like you’re right there with them.
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  • From Newcomer to Champion: Jennifer Hudock's Liberty Journey with Sassy
    In this inspiring episode of Life At Liberty - The Official Podcast of the International Liberty Horse Association, Dr. Elizabeth James sits down with the incredible Jennifer Hudock to explore her unique journey into the world of Liberty horsemanship. Despite not having a background with horses and facing the challenges of working alone with her horse, Sassy, Jennifer’s story is one of perseverance, passion, and pure grit. From starting with no trainer or local support, Jennifer’s unwavering determination has led her to become a multi-Champion ILHA competitor and a carded judge. Her story is a testament to following your dreams, no matter the obstacles. If you've ever thought it's too late to pursue your passion, think again! Jennifer's journey is living proof that anything is possible with dedication and love for what you do. Tune in to hear how she overcame every hurdle and transformed her life with her four-legged partner by her side.
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  • From Horses to Beloved TV Icon: Amber Marshall's Journey to "Heartland"
    In this highly anticipated episode, join host Dan James of Double Dan Horsemanship and Amber Marshall as they discuss her unexpected journey to landing the role of Amy Fleming, her passion for horses, and the challenges of portraying realistic storylines in the show! Get to know Amber beyond her iconic role and listen as she shares personal stories about her horses and how she spends her free time off-screen.
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About Life at LIBERTY

This podcast is dedicated to all things Liberty. It explores the relationship that's possible between horses and humans when each has the freedom to choose. It celebrates Liberty horses – both famous and unknown – and the lives of the people who love them. And it was created for those that ask ‘What is Liberty’ and those who dare to ask 'What’s possible through Liberty?’. Life at Liberty will leave you inspired, intrigued and eager to connect with horses on a deeper level.
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