RiskReversal Pod

Dan Nathan interviews Phill Rosen, CEO/CTO and co-founder of Astraeus, an AI infrastructure company for wealth management. Rosen recounts his path from college dropout to fintech builder, including Orchard Platform and Even Financial (later MoneyLion Engine), explaining how API-embedded distribution and machine-learning signals improved lending decisioning while navigating regulatory explainability. He argues many “AI companies” mainly deploy or fine-tune others’ models and that value often lies in data pipelines, governance, and deterministic software around AI. Rosen describes Astreus targeting independent RIAs and private-equity roll-ups (from ~$2B to ~$200B AUM) by unifying siloed legacy data, codifying compliance rules, and deploying “digital workers” with 90-day pilots to show operational ROI and enable scalable, auditable agentic workflows. They prefer model portability (often Gemini; testing Kimi 3) to manage cost and data sovereignty, and Rosen weighs whether LLMs commoditize into cloud-like infrastructure as tooling matures.

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Guy Adami and Dan Nathan open by recounting a fan’s Guy-themed T-shirt sighting on CNBC’s Fast Money, then discuss Fed Chair Kevin Warsh’s Jackson Hole remarks as largely status quo, with the S&P 500 near all-time highs and the VIX around 14 despite potential catalysts like the August jobs report. They argue markets appear complacent ahead of midterms and cite historical midterm drawdowns, while noting election-related tensions, Canada trade friction, and Russia/NATO risks as possible volatility drivers. The hosts highlight a widening disconnect between strong equities and weakening consumer signals seen in recent retail earnings, alongside rising delinquency rates and persistent inflation pressures. They review key earnings and themes: Nvidia’s extraordinary growth but complex circular AI financing relationships and competitive chip efforts, Salesforce’s sharp rally and software rebound, and previews of Dell and Broadcom amid hardware and TPU demand dynamics, before plugging an interview with Imran Khan.

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Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

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Dan Nathan sits down with Imran Khan, CIO and founder of Proem Asset Management, to break down one of the wildest weeks in tech earnings. They dig into Nvidia's latest quarter and why the stock keeps trading well below the market multiple despite the growth — and make the bull case for why that's about to change. From there: the increasingly circular web of financing between Nvidia, OpenAI, Microsoft, and CoreWeave, why OpenAI is building a chip to compete with its own biggest investor, and what Imran learned on a recent trip to South Korea about the memory market (Micron, SK Hynix, and the trade that's already up huge). They also unpack Salesforce's surprise post-earnings pop after Marc Benioff and Anthropic's Dario Amodei sat down with Jim Cramer, and close out with the question everyone's asking: are we in an AI bubble, and if so, who's left holding the bag?

Articles Referenced

Would There Be an AI Revolution If There Were No Nvidia? (WSJ)

Nvidia’s $279 Billion Supply-Chain Gamble (WSJ)

Nvidia Has Become a Banker to the AI Boom, Putting It on Dangerous Ground (WSJ)

OpenAI Claims Its New Chips Can Outperform Nvidia Processors in Tests (Bloomberg)

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

Dan Nathan sits down with Matt Turck, Managing Director at First Mark Capital and creator of the annual MAD (Machine Learning, AI & Data) Landscape, for a wide-ranging look at where AI investing stands right now. They cover the power-law dynamics driving venture dollars to a handful of companies, why Nvidia is starting to look like "the bank" of the AI industry, Anthropic's surge past $65 billion in revenue and its first profitable quarter, and how OpenAI, Microsoft, Google, and Meta are each positioning for what comes next. The conversation turns philosophical with a discussion of AGI, superintelligence, and the idea that Altman, Musk, and Amodei are all, in their own ways, trying to build God — before closing with a deep dive into China's AI progress, open source, and the robotics race. Matt also talks about his own podcast, The MAD Podcast, and his Data Driven NYC event series.

Links Referenced

The MAD Podcast (Apple Podcasts)

The MAD Landscape (Matt's Website)

Nvidia Has Become a Banker to the AI Boom, Putting It on Dangerous Ground (WSJ)

Read "AI 2027" and "AI 2040"

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.

Danny Nathan and Danny Moses discuss recent Treasury Secretary Bessent comments and plans to increase long-dated Treasury buybacks, arguing the amounts are largely signaling, yields quickly reverted, and the move effectively constrains Fed Chair Warsh ahead of Jackson Hole and a potential September hike. They connect rising yields, debt/deficits, inflation pressures, dollar/yen dynamics, and Bank of Japan policy to higher market volatility, tighter funding conditions, and renewed interest in gold, while noting capital may favor high-grade corporates over Treasuries. They review Walmart’s earnings beat but same-store-sales miss and valuation-driven selloff as a consumer and defensives litmus test. Looking ahead, they frame Nvidia, Salesforce, and CrowdStrike earnings as key narrative tests for AI demand, software AI strategy, and cybersecurity, and they flag scrutiny around Carvana’s loan sales and potential related-party buyers.

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The financial opinions expressed in Risk Reversal content are for information purposes only. The opinions expressed by the hosts and participants are not an attempt to influence specific trading behavior, investments, or strategies. Past performance does not necessarily predict future outcomes. No specific results or profits are assured when relying on Risk Reversal.

Before making any investment or trade, evaluate its suitability for your circumstances and consider consulting your own financial or investment advisor. The financial products discussed in Risk Reversal carry a high level of risk and may not be appropriate for many investors. If you have uncertainties, it's advisable to seek professional advice. Remember that trading involves a risk to your capital, so only invest money that you can afford to lose.

Derivatives are not suitable for all investors and involve the risk of losing more than the amount originally deposited and any profit you might have made. This communication is not a recommendation or offer to buy, sell or retain any specific investment or service.