Real Business Owners

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In this episode, Trevor Cowley sits down with Sean Martin to break down what it actually takes to rebuild your life, your mindset, and your business from the ground up. Sean opens up about hitting rock bottom, going to prison, and using that experience to reprogram his identity, build discipline, and create real freedom. This is a raw conversation about responsibility, personal growth, cutting toxic environments, and why pain is often the catalyst for purpose.

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Most people use credit cards wrong.
They swipe, pay the bill, and move on — leaving thousands of dollars on the table every year.
In Episode 349 of The Real Business Owners Podcast, Trevor Cowley sits down with Travis Cormier, a credit card rewards strategist who’s helped people turn everyday spending into first-class flights, luxury travel, and serious cash-back leverage.
This conversation breaks down how reward points actually work, why bonuses matter more than spending categories, and how business owners can stack points without wrecking their credit or wasting time.
This isn’t travel hacking for bloggers — it’s financial leverage for real operators.

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Episode 348 is a tactical gut-check for business owners who are working hard but not getting paid enough for the pressure they’re carrying.Trevor breaks down one of the most overlooked metrics in business — revenue per employee — and shows how it exposes inefficiencies, bad hires, weak systems, wasted overhead, and low standards. This episode connects hard numbers with leadership, discipline, and personal responsibility, making it clear why most owners feel overwhelmed while still under-earning.This isn’t motivation. It’s a playbook for tightening the business, raising standards, and making sure the juice is actually worth the squeeze.

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What do gun safes, mental health, and leadership have in common? In this episode, Trevor sits down with Scott Carlson, owner of Utah Safe Company, to unpack an unexpected but powerful connection between personal responsibility, mental health, and modern business innovation.Scott shares how years of failure, industry resistance, and uncomfortable conversations led him to build a company that doesn’t just protect property—but helps protect lives. This episode dives into the tension between extremes, why progress happens in the middle ground, and what it looks like to modernize a legacy industry without selling out your values.This is a real conversation about failure, purpose, and doing the hard thing when it would be easier not to.

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In this episode of The Real Business Owners Podcast, Trevor Cowley sits down with Brody Fausett for a conversation about real estate, lifestyle design, and the realities most people never see behind “successful” deals.They break down Brody’s most profitable real estate deal, the unexpected chain of events that led him to move to Hawaii, and why chasing lifestyle alignment matters more than chasing headlines. The conversation also pulls back the curtain on long-term development projects, government red tape, delayed timelines, and why patience, trust, and resilience separate real operators from spectators.This episode isn’t about hype. It’s about what actually happens when you’re in the arena.