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- If you’re struggling to gain traction on social media for your business, this episode will give you the blueprint on how to revitalize your digital marketing strategy and scale your business without burning out.
In this special interview at the iconic Godmothers bookstore, Jamie Kern Lima interviews Natalie Ellis about her step-by-step formula for creating viral content and building a loyal audience on social media. She also breaks down how she uses Wispr Flow, Claude Code, and Replit to automate mundane tasks and provide a more personalized experience for her community, along with her advice on how entrepreneurs can better regulate their nervous systems to increase performance, productivity, and fulfillment, even in their busiest seasons.
In this episode, Natalie and Jamie will discuss:
(00:00) Celebrating BossBabe's Impact on Women Globally
(09:18) The Cost of Never Being Satisfied
(17:33) The Myth of Having One Purpose in Life
(26:07) The Value of Hustle Culture
(30:56) Nervous System Regulation 101 for Entrepreneurs
(36:24) My Tested Formula for Creating Content that Goes Viral
(47:48) Easy Ways You Can Use AI Today to Grow Your Business
(1:03:30) How to Inspire the Next Generation of Female Entrepreneurs
(1:08:04) Maintaining Relationships While Healing Generational Trauma
(01:13:10) When to Seek Investors
Jamie Kern Lima is an entrepreneur, 2x New York Times bestselling author, and host of the #1 self-improvement podcast in the US, The Jamie Kern Lima Show. She co-founded IT Cosmetics, which she sold to L'Oréal for $1.2 billion in 2016, becoming the first female chief executive officer of a L'Oréal brand. Jamie has been included on Forbes’ list of "America's Richest Self-Made Women" since 2017. She's also an active philanthropist who has funded leadership training in more than 100 prisons and shelters across the US and has donated over $40 million in product and funds to help women face the effects of cancer with confidence.
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Resources Mentioned:
Godmothers
Natalie’s Book, The Freedom-Based Business Method
Wispr Flow
Claude Code
Replit
Connect with Jamie Kern Lima:
Instagram
LinkedIn
Website
YouTube
Jamie’s Podcast, The Jamie Kern Lima Show
Connect with Natalie:
Instagram
LinkedIn
Website
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Natalie’s Book, The Freedom-Based Business Method
artificial intelligence, AI tools, AI for business, social media marketing, personal branding, entrepreneurship, content creation, Natalie Ellis, Jamie Kern Lima, BossBabe, Claude Code, Replit, Wispr Flow, AI automation, AI marketing, business automation, social media growth, build a personal brand, audience growth, content strategy, viral content, creator economy, digital marketing, AI for entrepreneurs, business growth, online business, community building - Want to build an audience that AI can’t replace? Natalie Ellis and Lori Harder reveal the personal branding strategy behind real business growth.
In this episode, Lori and Natalie discuss how entrepreneurship can create more freedom when it’s built around focus, systems, and community. They break down personal branding, business growth, social media marketing, how to build an audience you actually own, and why that audience can become a powerful advantage in the age of AI. Natalie shares her one-product, one-client, one-funnel, one-platform approach to growth, while Lori explains how podcasting and strategic guest appearances can expand your reach, relationships, and revenue.
In this episode, Natalie and Lori will discuss:
(03:47) How Entrepreneurship Creates Freedom
(07:27) Path to Growth: Hustle Culture or Soft-Life CEO?
(10:41) Abandoning People’s Expectations of You
(16:50) How Trauma Can Create Freedom
(18:01) Future-Proofing Your Business in the Age of AI
(21:27) Want to Build a Loyal Audience? Do THIS
(25:47) The Ugly Truth About Launching New Ventures
(29:39) Podcasting as a Vehicle for Building Online Communities
(33:49) Replacing Jealousy With Collaboration
(37:33) The Podcast Industry’s Most Gatekept Rules
Lori Harder is a serial entrepreneur, author, and founder of beauty and wellness brand Glōci. She has built and scaled multiple million-dollar businesses and hosts the Earn Your Happy podcast, which has surpassed 65 million downloads. Lori also invests in more than 10 companies and helps entrepreneurs grow their brands, businesses, and networks.
Resources Mentioned:
Natalie’s Book, The Freedom-Based Business Method
Mel Robbins’s Podcast, The Mel Robbins Podcast
Connect with Lori:
Lori’s Podcast, Earn Your Happy
YouTube
Instagram
LinkedIn
Website
Lori’s Book, A Tribe Called Bliss
Connect with Natalie:
Instagram
LinkedIn
Website
YouTube
Natalie’s Book, The Freedom-Based Business Method
Entrepreneurship, personal branding, business growth, social media marketing, how to build an audience, AI for business, Natalie Ellis, Lori Harder, bossbabe, build a personal brand, audience growth, grow on social media, online business, business systems, business strategy, content marketing, community building, podcast marketing, podcast guesting, entrepreneur mindset, brand building, grow your business, social media growth, AI marketing, freedom based business She Built a Million-Dollar Business and Called It a Pretty Prison (the Truth About Revenue, Grief, and Starting Over)
23/06/2026 | 48 mins.This is the conversation about the part most founders don't say out loud: the moment you hit the revenue number and feel nothing.
Natalie sits down with Jenna Wright — a Pilates studio owner who built a 7-figure business from $1,000 and an air mattress. From the outside, she'd made it. From the inside, she was running at 9% profit, paying herself $80K a year, and calling it — in her own words — a pretty prison. So she did what most founders won't: she dismantled it on purpose. They go inside the math (she was running $1.2M at 9% profit, paying herself $80K/year), the team mutiny that finally broke the model, and the deliberate revenue cut from $1.2M to $650K that tripled her margin to 30%.
If you've ever hit the revenue numbers and felt nothing, this episode is the operating system for what comes next.
Time Stamps:
07:40 "Tired at a soul level" — the burnout most founders hide
10:00 $1,000 and an air mattress: the rebuild from zero
14:05 $250K to $875K in one year (and the cost it hid)
19:10 The misery beneath success
25:15 The team mutiny that broke the business model
28:33 The math: cutting 4 studios to 2, profit triples
31:50 "Your business will expose every wound you have"
33:00 The 7-day retreat that reorganized everything
40:05 The lessons Jenna is rewriting today
Resources + Links:
Pre-Order The Freedom-Based Business Method.
Follow Jenna: @iam_jennawright
Learn more about Jenna's Teacher Training
Follow Jenna Wright + Read Her Substack "The Shift" Where She Documents The Scale-Down Publicly
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Drop Us A Review On The Podcast + Send Us A Screenshot & We’ll Send You Natalie’s 7-Figure Operating System Completely FREE (value $1,997).Are you addicted to work and achievement? Exploring the concept of “never enough” and how to finally unlock alignment.
16/06/2026 | 56 mins.In this episode, Natalie sits down with Keren Eldad — coach to some of the world's highest achievers and author of Gilded and the new Gilt Free — to unpack why external success never delivers the safety it promises. Keren shares the three core wounds beneath achievement addiction, the "gilded cage" so many high-achieving women are trapped in, and the surprising income threshold where what you want out of life finally starts to change.
You'll learn how to recognize the wound driving your hustle, why "assume everyone likes you" became her most viral piece of advice, and the riptide rule for holding onto success without letting it consume you.
If you've ever achieved everything you set out to and quietly wondered why it's still not enough, this episode is the reframe and the way out.
Time Stamps:
03:50 The gilded cage: when the shiny life is the trap
07:50 "Yes, we're addicts" — achievement as addiction
15:30 The 3 core wounds behind every overachiever
18:18 The success coach who still spirals when business slows
21:34 The $500K line that changes what you actually want
27:50 "Assume everyone likes you" — the rule that went viral
38:11 The riptide rule for holding onto success
48:28 Why scaling might be the wrong goal entirely
53:46 What real credibility in coaching actually looks like
Links & Resources:
Pre-Order The Freedom-Based Business Method.
Follow Keren: @coachkeren
Grab a copy of Keren’s book - Gilded: Breaking Free from the Cage of Ambition, Perfectionism, and the Relentless Pursuit of More
Listen to Natalie on COACHED by Keren Eldad
Sign Up For Our Free Weekly Newsletter & Get Insights From Natalie Every Single Week On All Things Strategy, Motherhood, Business Growth + More.
Drop Us A Review On The Podcast + Send Us A Screenshot & We’ll Send You Natalie’s 7-Figure Operating System Completely FREE (value $1,997).She Makes 7 Figures Working 2 Days a Week—Here’s How (and Why She Almost Lost It All)
09/06/2026 | 47 mins.Most course creators add more channels to scale. Anna Konchar did the opposite and now runs a 7-figure business on 2 days a week.
Natalie sits down with Anna Konchar — the funnel strategist behind a 7-figure evergreen course business that runs on 2 days a week while she's home with her three kids. Anna shares the exact mechanics of the evergreen funnel + paid ads engine she's used for eight years, why she cut her podcast and YouTube last year to focus on ONE offer, and how she rebuilt after her payment processor shut down her account overnight. Expect specific numbers, uncomfortable honesty about AI in funnels, and a framework you can test against your own course business this quarter.
If you've ever wondered how a course creator can scale to seven figures without launching live, this episode is the operating system.
Time Stamps:
03:11 From laid-off to full-time entrepreneur in 30 minutes
07:33 The funnel that sells while she sleeps
16:55 When the offer stops converting, fix THIS first
21:30 The pricing test most course creators never run
24:00 The webinar mistake 99% of course creators make
32:13 The day her recurring revenue disappeared overnight
39:10 How a 7-figure founder preps for maternity leave
Resources + Links
Annakonchar.com/bossbabe
Find Anna on IG: https://www.instagram.com/annakonchar/
Pre-Order The Freedom-Based Business Method.
Sign Up For Our Free Weekly Newsletter & Get Insights From Natalie Every Single Week On All Things Strategy, Motherhood, Business Growth + More. Drop Us A Review On The Podcast + Send Us A Screenshot & We’ll Send You Natalie’s 7-Figure Operating System Completely FREE (value $1,997).
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