In this episode of The Care Ministry Podcast, Laura Howe is joined by psychologists, spiritual directors, and Soul Shepherding founders Bill Gaultiere and Kristi Gaultiere for a deeply honest conversation about empathy, burnout, and spiritual formation. Drawing from decades of counseling, ministry leadership, and personal experience, the Gaultieres unpack why empathy is “oxygen for the soul” and how self-judgment, emotional disconnection, and over-functioning can quietly lead caregivers toward compassion fatigue. They explore what empathy truly is (and what it is not), how Jesus models empathy throughout the Gospels, and why receiving God’s empathy is essential for sustainable care, healthy boundaries, and long-term ministry fruitfulness.
Quotes
“Empathy is oxygen for the soul. Without it, we may survive—but we won’t thrive.” –Kristi Gaultiere
“The instrument we bring to others isn’t our skills or our training—it’s who we are with God.” –Bill Gaultiere
“We often don’t care what someone knows until we know that they care.” –Kristi Gaultiere
“True growth happens when empathy is joined with truth and responsibility.” –Bill Gaultiere
“If we try to empathize with everyone, everywhere, all the time, we will drain our soul. Empathy must be stewarded.” –Kristi Gaultiere
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