The Home Service Expert Podcast

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Are the AI layoffs about to reverse? Workplace futurist Alexandra Levit joins Tommy Mello to break down blunt force automation: why CEOs who replaced their teams with AI are about to want them back, how every AI rollout quietly creates six new jobs, and what the 95% failure rate on AI investments means for business owners. They get into why the skilled trades are the safest bet in America right now, the return to office mistake, learning agility as the number one career skill, and how owners should actually be investing in AI training.
Connect with Alexandra: https://alexandralevit.com
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00:00 - Introduction
02:15 - What A Futurist Actually Does
03:44 - Is Every Desk Job Doomed?
04:32 - Six Jobs Per AI
08:07 - The Case For The Trades
12:51 - Blunt Force Automation
14:54 - The Rise Of Craftsmanship
18:14 - Building Learning Agility
21:10 - The 95% Problem
25:56 - AI's Energy Problem
29:19 - Cautiously Optimistic
32:05 - Psychology To Futurist
35:33 - Training AI To Oppose You
40:04 - Advice For Your 20s
43:10 - The RTO5 Mistake
44:51 - Flexibility That Pays
48:30 - Deep Talent Explained
51:30 - Simulations Beat Resumes
52:54 - The Training Gap
56:40 - Closing Thoughts
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For the first time in 700 episodes, Tommy hands the other mic to his fiancée, Bre. From interviewing to be his EA at A1 Garage to planning their January wedding, they cover how they met, the season of scaling that scared her most, living below your means, faith, family plans, and the honest answer to what building something big takes from the person sitting next to you.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:31 - How We Met At A1
03:28 - The Early A1 Days
09:30 - Bre's Upbringing
10:56 - Grandpa Stories
14:30 - Does He Ever Stop?
16:00 - Living Below Our Means
23:39 - The Work-Life Balance Debate
24:49 - What We Sacrificed
27:02 - The Wedding Plans
28:40 - The Scariest Season
34:04 - Faith And Getting Baptized
37:11 - The Next Five To Ten Years
38:53 - Rapid Fire: Who's More Likely?
48:37 - Advice For Couples Who Work Together
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Pace Morby went from bagging groceries and building 700 homes for hedge funds to controlling hundreds of properties without banks, credit, or his own money. In this one, he and Tommy trade playbooks: how seller financing actually works and why terms beat price, the capital gains conversation that gets retiring sellers to yes, the expired listing niche feeding him a house a day, the four KPIs that fix any company, and why the worst agent market in 35 years is handing buyers the opportunity of a decade.
Connect with Pace ⟶ https://www.instagram.com/pacemorby/
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00:00 - Introduction
01:47 - Number Three Of Twelve Kids
04:55 - The Secret-Sharing Culture That Built Home Service
06:53 - AI Is Coming For Jobs, But Not These
09:11 - The Expired Listing Niche Nobody Wants
10:03 - The $5 Million RV Park Phone Call
11:06 - No Money Down At $20 Million
13:04 - Why You'd Better Be Greedy
15:26 - How A Technician Actually Makes More
17:41 - The Boomer Buyout Wave (And Who Shouldn't Ride It)
19:57 - The $500 An Hour Meeting At Starbucks
20:42 - Hedge Fund Flipper: 700 Homes For The Big Funds
23:32 - Bethany's Genius: The Bird Dog Move
25:16 - The Lead Geeks Full Circle Moment
30:44 - What Keeps Tommy Hungry
35:15 - Four KPIs That Fix Any Company
38:52 - Live Teardown: Pace's Lending Business
53:47 - Who's Gonna Compete With You?
56:20 - PE's Hard Lesson: Keep The Founder
59:59 - Speed Round: Three Tips For Beginners
1:02:28 - Why He Buys One RV Park A Month
1:06:04 - The Kermit, Texas Deal
1:06:39 - The Capital Gains Play That Closes Sellers
1:10:23 - The Slowest Market In 35 Years
1:15:14 - How To Work With Tommy
1:17:16 - The Best Add-On In Home Service
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Michael Werner has lived several business lifetimes: Goldman Sachs M&A, president of Werner Ladder at $500 million plus, the Gerber turnaround from $100 million to $700 million, and founder of HomeX, where he sold Schedule Engine to ServiceTitan for nine figures. Twenty years ago, doctors told him he had about four years left. In this episode, he and Tommy break down private equity done right, why ownership changes how people work, the three things that motivate every employee, and the four trends that will decide which home service companies survive the next decade.
Connect with Michael ⟶ michael@homex.com
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00:00 - Introduction
02:02 - Why He Asks Everyone Their Origin Story
04:19 - Goldman's 15 Minute Rule
06:05 - Growing Werner Ladder Past $500 Million
08:49 - Too Entrepreneurial To Stay
12:07 - The Gerber Turnaround: $100M To $700M
14:30 - Satisfy Customers Or Delight Them?
19:41 - Trust, Time, Transparency: The HomeX Idea
23:30 - Why He Took A Minority Partner
29:09 - The Rental Car Ownership Test
32:29 - The Three Things That Motivate People
36:19 - Did The Trades Give Him Cancer?
38:53 - Hold The Mirror Up Before You Sell
42:39 - Never Say Retirement
47:15 - Four Trends That Decide Who Survives
50:33 - The David And Goliath Strategy
53:00 - Where He'd Put His Money
59:39 - The Death Sentence, In Full
1:02:10 - Long-Term Greedy: Final Advice
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Tommy sits down with Jason Wild, co-author of Genius at Scale (Harvard Business Review's lead title) and the innovation leader behind $6B+ in enterprise deals at IBM, Salesforce, and Microsoft. From child actor rejected 500 times to advising the world's biggest companies, Jason breaks down why you can copy products and poach talent, but culture is the one thing money can't touch, and what home service owners can steal from MasterCard, Pfizer, and Marc Benioff to build teams that run without them.
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00:00 - Introduction
01:35 - Child Actor Roots
05:01 - The Zen Of Selling
07:52 - Writing With Harvard
11:28 - Focus Vs Innovation
13:17 - MasterCard's Reinvention
16:46 - The Elon Musk Take
22:16 - The Talent War
24:40 - What Money Can't Copy
28:38 - Global Innovation Lessons
34:11 - The Billionaire In Line
37:54 - Three Rapid-Fire Questions
45:22 - The Bridger Role
49:13 - AI And Your Jobs
58:37 - The Book's Big Lesson
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