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Operators

Sean Frank, Mike Beckham, Matt Bertulli, and Jason Panzer
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    6 CPG Funnels: How We Study Ads, Landers & Offers

    02/11/2026 | 1h 7 mins.
    “It’s very easy to scrape an ad library, pull out concepts and then literally just duplicate the ad. That’s just a race to the bottom.” 
    How do you learn from other brands without copying them? 
    Matt Bertulli (Founder, Pela Case & Lomi) and Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road Beauty) share their screens to walk through six consumables brands they’re learning from while building Winks. Each picked three, plus one bonus from outside DTC. 
    1. Nutrition Geeks: UK single-ingredient 
    2. Norse Organics: Natural acne care 
    3. Elavate: UK collagen for women 
    4. MarsMen: Testosterone support 
    5. Spoiled Child: Oddity’s brand 
    6. Boostcous: Gluten-free couscous 
    (Bonus) Wispr Flow: AI voice app 
    Matt and Cody trace each brand’s ads, landers and offers, including why long pages still convert. Some brands force subscriptions, others offer a choice, and a few lead with one-time bundles. Meanwhile, Winks is testing a no-subscription bundle of its own. 
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    Amazon Playbook: 5 Things DTC Brands Must Get Right to Scale Profitably

    28/10/2026 | 1h 13 mins.
    “If you don’t sell on Amazon, somebody else is gonna sell it.” 
    When should a DTC brand stop treating Amazon as an afterthought? 
    Mike Beckham (CEO, Simple Modern), Jason Panzer (President, HexClad), Matt Bertulli (Founder, Pela Case & Lomi), and Katy Mimari (CEO, Caden Lane) break down the five things DTC brands must get right to scale on Amazon. 
    1. Always stay in stock
    2. Executive ownership
    3. Tailor your catalog
    4. Protect your reviews
    5. Pricing and promotion
    Amazon drives over half of Simple Modern’s contribution profit, yet Matt and Katy admit neglecting it. Mike’s fix covers five fronts: inventory, ownership, catalog, reviews, and pricing. Even HexClad is still learning, after underinvesting cost it millions this year. 
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    Inside a New DTC Brand’s Ad Engine, Run in 6 Steps: Operators Build (E10)

    26/10/2026 | 1h 7 mins.
    “Creative supply chain is the essential ingredient of demand.” 
    Get all the resources from this episode: https://9ops.co/abchwj
    ★ 6-step framework
    ★ Brief template
    ★ Hook training guide
    Matt Bertulli (Founder, Pela Case & Lomi) and Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road) launched Winks with more ads than lessons. Now they walk through the six steps every ad faces, starting with the message. 
    1. Message 
    2. Source 
    3. Media Formats 
    4. Creative Approach 
    5. Funnel Role 
    6. Production Checks 
    More ads went live, but Cody still didn’t know what was working. The fix is research by hand, down to an Instagram feed trained to think like the buyer. With AI editing and uploading their ads, taste is the job left for people. 
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    Operators Newsletter 
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    How Hulken Hit $50M Without Raising: Founder Alex Schinasi

    22/10/2026 | 1h 23 mins.
    “We didn’t actually choose them. They chose us.”
    Can a bootstrapped brand enter Target and Costco while still growing DTC? 
    Alex Schinasi (Co-Founder & President, Hulken) joins Matt Bertulli (Founder, Pela Case & Lomi) and Mike Beckham (CEO, Simple Modern) to unpack how a two-time SaaS founder built a ~$50M rolling tote brand without raising money. 
    She had raised $3M for a new SaaS when Hulken hit $1M a month. A year later she exited the startup, and now nine people run the business with AI chiefs of staff. She wants a brand that lasts decades, yet she still moves at software speed. 
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    5 Things Every CMO Wishes CEOs Knew But Will Never Say to Your Face

    21/10/2026 | 1h 14 mins.
    “Some businesses aren’t ready for great CMOs.” 
    What do CMOs need from their CEOs but never say out loud? 
    MacCoy Merkley (CMO, Portland Leather Goods), Matt Bertulli (Founder, Pela Case & Lomi), Jason Panzer (President, HexClad), and Mike Beckham (CEO, Simple Modern) unpack 5 truths CMOs won’t say to the boss’s face, and what CEOs lose by ignoring them. 
    MacCoy took a $13K-a-year job off Craigslist and now leads marketing at a nearly $250M brand. HexClad still has no CMO, so Jason and its co-founders carry the role themselves. Hand the keys to the wrong hire, and the blame lands long before the results do. 
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    Postscript 
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    Aftersell 
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    Operators Portal 
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    Operators Newsletter 
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About Operators
In the world of ecommerce, a legendary text group is rumored to hold the secrets to unimaginable success. The catch? You must have nine figures in revenue to gain entry. The world’s biggest brands have denied its existence for years, until now. Four titans known as the “Operators” are leaking the secret contents in an effort to share its wealth of knowledge with people like you. Sean Frank (CEO, Ridge), Jason Panzer (President, HexClad), Mike Beckham (CEO, Simple Modern) & Matt Bertulli (Founder, Pela Case x Lomi).
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