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Operators

Sean Frank, Mike Beckham, Matt Bertulli, and Jason Panzer
Operators
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    Inside a New DTC Brand’s Ad Engine, Run in 6 Steps: Operators Build (E10)

    26/10/2026 | 1h 7 mins.
    “Creative supply chain is the essential ingredient of demand.” 
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    ★ 6-step framework
    ★ Brief template
    ★ Hook training guide
    Matt Bertulli (Founder, Pela Case & Lomi) and Cody Plofker (Advisor & fmr. CEO, Jones Road) launched Winks with more ads than lessons. Now they walk through the six steps every ad faces, starting with the message. 
    1. Message 
    2. Source 
    3. Media Formats 
    4. Creative Approach 
    5. Funnel Role 
    6. Production Checks 
    More ads went live, but Cody still didn’t know what was working. The fix is research by hand, down to an Instagram feed trained to think like the buyer. With AI editing and uploading their ads, taste is the job left for people. 
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    How Hulken Hit $50M Without Raising: Founder Alex Schinasi

    22/10/2026 | 1h 23 mins.
    “We didn’t actually choose them. They chose us.”
    Can a bootstrapped brand enter Target and Costco while still growing DTC? 
    Alex Schinasi (Co-Founder & President, Hulken) joins Matt Bertulli (Founder, Pela Case & Lomi) and Mike Beckham (CEO, Simple Modern) to unpack how a two-time SaaS founder built a ~$50M rolling tote brand without raising money. 
    She had raised $3M for a new SaaS when Hulken hit $1M a month. A year later she exited the startup, and now nine people run the business with AI chiefs of staff. She wants a brand that lasts decades, yet she still moves at software speed. 
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    5 Things Every CMO Wishes CEOs Knew But Will Never Say to Your Face

    21/10/2026 | 1h 14 mins.
    “Some businesses aren’t ready for great CMOs.” 
    What do CMOs need from their CEOs but never say out loud? 
    MacCoy Merkley (CMO, Portland Leather Goods), Matt Bertulli (Founder, Pela Case & Lomi), Jason Panzer (President, HexClad), and Mike Beckham (CEO, Simple Modern) unpack 5 truths CMOs won’t say to the boss’s face, and what CEOs lose by ignoring them. 
    MacCoy took a $13K-a-year job off Craigslist and now leads marketing at a nearly $250M brand. HexClad still has no CMO, so Jason and its co-founders carry the role themselves. Hand the keys to the wrong hire, and the blame lands long before the results do. 
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    10 Elements of a Winning Offer & How to Test Them: Operators Build (E9)

    19/10/2026 | 1h 35 mins.
    “A great offer makes the customer feel stupid for saying no.” 
    How do you know your offer is wrong before the market tells you? 
    Jordan Menard (Co-Founder, Instant Hydration) and Lina Fahizul (Chief Ovary Officer, Freelance) join this episode to put Winks’ pricing, promotion, and pitch on trial. The payoff is a 10-element offer playbook any DTC brand can steal. 
    1. Not just price or discounts 
    2. Fits how the product is used 
    3. One customer + one problem 
    4. Adds value before discounts 
    5. Tackles your top objections 
    6. Gives a reason to buy “now” 
    7. Priced right for your market 
    8. Your most-valuable customer 
    9. Built for orders 2, 3, 4, etc. 
    10. Profitable unit economics  
    It starts from a simple claim: Your discount gives away margin once. Jordan catches the founders without an answer for the CAC they can afford. Lina shows why making moms feel bad wins the click and loses the customer. Today's “winning” offer could lose money for months. 
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    How to Position Your Brand & Products: 5 Ways to Win Against “Better”

    14/10/2026 | 1h 6 mins.
    “Better is probably the worst word you could use in marketing.” 
    How can a DTC brand stand out in a category full of identical promises? 
    Matt Orlić (Co-Founder, Qure Skincare) joins Mike Beckham (CEO, Simple Modern) and Matt Bertulli (Founder, Pela Case & Lomi) to break down why brand positioning beats a better product. Each story shows how a brand can win a crowded category without inventing anything new. 
    Qure’s water filters beat Jolie’s on technology and patents, yet Orlić can’t out-position them. Mike explains how Yeti took Thermos’s 1800s vacuum insulation and sold it for cold drinks. Once a position works, competitors move in, and the founders debate how to hold it. 
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    Operators Newsletter 
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About Operators
In the world of ecommerce, a legendary text group is rumored to hold the secrets to unimaginable success. The catch? You must have nine figures in revenue to gain entry. The world’s biggest brands have denied its existence for years, until now. Four titans known as the “Operators” are leaking the secret contents in an effort to share its wealth of knowledge with people like you. Sean Frank (CEO, Ridge), Jason Panzer (President, HexClad), Mike Beckham (CEO, Simple Modern) & Matt Bertulli (Founder, Pela Case x Lomi).
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