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Scratch That: Parenting & ReParenting Off Script

Rebekah Taussig & Caitlin Metz
Scratch That: Parenting & ReParenting Off Script
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  • 💌 Signing Off With Love
    Hi, friends! Happy Monday💛As Caitlin prepares to to welcome their new little human into the world, we are sending you a little signing off episode with a found poem that emerged from all of the conversations we've gathered since we kicked this thing off last year.Thank you for being along for the ride!A Scratch That Poem*Note: Every line from this poem is linked to the Scratch That episode from which it originally sprouted. Hello, little butterbean, Sweet silly goose. little anxious heart. Dear listener, the freaks, other weirdos my sister LauraCome sit with me. we can't believe you're here your presence feels like a miraculous little sparkle lighting up the dark sky.What I hear us talking about isbecoming was a pretty disorienting, lonely experience.Like we were gonna be lawyers and doctors and like be wearing suits or something. I have literally gashed the control panel of the passenger side door out with my wheelchair as I transferred in and out of this car for the last 15 years. And if anybody sits in the passenger seat, it does look like I'm trying to kidnap themoh, this is, this is very different than I thought what almost 40 was gonna look like. I doubt myself all the timeI shrunk from the eye of the storm I don't know what the hell I'm doing.oh, dear Lord. I am so quick to feel like, oh, you are ruining this. And if you could just get it right We were at the pool. I didn't bring a towel. I didn't bring a towel to the pool. Can we use your towels? Oh, my God. Like, what. What is that? the moment when you show up and you feel like the child in a room full of adults.this little duck that looks really peaceful on top of the water, but underneath, I'm just paddling, like, furiously. and I couldn't let anyone know itThis is the dirty secret. And nobody can know that, actually, I'm like, I shouldn't be doing this, and I need to keep pretending like I can.the failure of not matching when we immediately think like, oh, I should knowwhat the fuck is that?It was like grief. It was shame.it is feeling like a lot of doing and grasping and, like, white knuckling. I can never stop working relentlessly and fearfully to get it right, get it right, get it right.nose to the grindstoneI don't think I'm capable of feeling easy breezy It feels all tangled and kind of ugly.Tell me if I'm wrong. Did others feel this way? As I'm understanding it right now in the very middle of itYep.I'm raising my hand here, Was everyone just pretending to be okay, or was I broken?oh, no. No. No. No.I just don't buy it. There was also thisThere was a way that you were trying to help yourself survive even in that fumblingI'm holding myself together with harshness and rigidity and why I oughta.oh, the speed and rush and flurry and chaos and check, check, check. Because so many times it felt like my body was not mine. oh, like I'm actually in much more pain than I'm letting myself admit. and and how do we, like, not keep our bodies rigid What if your most important job was to notice, to witness breath, tears, goosebumps, heartbeats? Look! just, like, stop to look at a trail of ants in a sidewalk crack. Listen to the gasp from the back seat at the sight of a sunrise. Mama, take a picture. oh, there's my breath. Oh, there I am in there. You feel it, right?Yes, dear Lord I have goosebumps up to my cheeksMhmm. I mean, you know it in your body probably.One breath at a time. watch me Breathe in and out.a lot of us out here don't match the pictures we've been givenI don't see through your eyes, you don't see through my eyes. We're all seeing things differently. We are learning we are recalibratingin flux reorienting, and it is dizzying. The hints come in little bread crumbs, and I think you can trust it.horses don't have an ability to lie to humansgrab the reins and trust that gut feelingThat is the thing we have control over, trying to show up, trying to show up again. We don't have control over the outcome.It is all going to happen. One day at a time, baby.it will be glorious and unbearableAnd yes, it was funny because we made it so.Yes. Yes. Yes. Okay. we can use goals as playgrounds. The timelines that are presented to us are so narrow. And that is not what life is like. It's just not. Julia Child didn't start cooking until she was 45 or whatever.Yes. Yes. Oh my gosh. Now I'm going yes. like, paying attention to what is alive in you. You can just shift the question.What are the things you're moving towards versus just what you're going against?how can you rearrange what's in the box? what is it that you're resisting in yourself? what are we to do but imagine better futures?this off script, kind of like, scrappy, build it yourself way, I'm like, oh, yeah, Like, we can just start asking different questionsThat's freaking sick, bro.That's freaking metal.I think a new answer is emerging in me and I don't know what it is yet. but I do know that my body responded I'm paying attention to how my body feels right now.my heart has not stopped poundingso many tears coming up I feel like this tingling of excitementmy face is already hurting from all the smilingAnd, also right now, I'm just like a hot jellyfish mess. You know? It's, like, so uncomfortable and hard to let things be messyAnd I think it has been messier than I expected, butBut that messy middle was so important. grappling with the real limitations of my body. Wouldn't it be lovely, if you could grow wings and fly? Of course there's grief. There's loss. but two things can be true at the same time. The pain and the beauty, they're usually, like, intertwined and pushed right up next to each other.Notice the strength and the toll. There is so much pain and fear and loss bleeding across this planet. Notice the question, how are we still breathing? Notice the blooms of survival.It is what happens in between you and the person across from you and in that space, the divine comes in. However you think of the divineLike, this is beautiful and complicated. This is the juicy part. This is the rough part.you are a speck of spectacular dust here for one quick gasp of holy shit, I'm here.oh, yeah. It's probably supposed to be strange because it's inherently a weird thingto change and evolve and growyou will always be you, you will never stop changing. It is so strange to put a part of yourself into the world This little pocket of conversation that we're havingthis time capsule.this one peak into one moment of time. Holy shit we just circled so many different things.And did we land at exactly the place that we started? Maybe.So thank you for being here.and thank you. Thank you for this.thank you for giving me this spacethank you for staying in the explorationThank you for digging in and winding through this path with us. I have so many more questionsMentioned In This Episode:Our collaborative Scratch That Spotify playlist "Songs That Have Held Us"As Always:Check out Caitlin and Rebekah's Book Shop! Here you can find every book mentioned in our episodes, as well as a few additional faves.Use this link to get a 25% discount on a PokPok subcription! And if you haven't listened yet, check out our interview with PokPok creators, Esther and Melissa.We would love to hear from you! Are there moments from the last year of episodes that you would add to a Scratch That poem?🍎 Apple🟢 SpotifyFind Rebekah on Substack & Caitlin on Instagram ✨
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  • 🎙️ Blessed Be the Body with Tatum Tricarico
    Tatum Tricarico embodies a set of identities we don't always see together – she is a proud Disabled person, a Queer woman of faith, and a recent graduate from divinity school on her way to becoming a pastor. Tatum knows, first-hand, a lot of the wounds disabled and queer people have felt inside religious communities, and she's here to offer all of us – the ones on the outside and inside – new scripts for understanding the divine.Check out Tatum's forthcoming book, Blessed Is the Body, a reflection on disability justice, the holiness of inclusion and acceptance, disabled leadership, the finitude of our bodies, and allowing space for lament and acceptance. Whether you grew up hearing your body is sinful or haven't read a page of the Bible, this episode offers us a tender reframe on how we could think about our bodies and what needs (or doesn't need) fixing.Tune In to Hear Us Talk About:⛪️ Tatum's early experiences with disability, queerness, and religion.🧳 What it feels like to Tatum to embody a (disabled, queer, religious) role full of tension and contradiction.🐧 Finding God in the "in between" spaces, like penguins.🍃 Why Tatum had to let go of who she thought God was.🏳️‍🌈 What Tatum thinks religious communities are missing out on when they exclude people.👩‍🦯‍➡️ The yuck history of churches fighting to be excluded from the Americans with Disabilities Act.💌 Tatum's decision to stay in the church, even as she continues to think creatively about God.Mentioned In Today's Episode:Find Tatum on Instagram @blind_person_in_areaPre-Order her book from Herald Press or AmazonTatum's addition to the Scratch That Spotify playlist of songs that have held us – "Sight" by Sleeping At LastNancy Eiesland's book The Disabled God: Toward a Liberatory Theology of DisabilityAmy Kenny 's book My Body is Not a Prayer Request: Disability Justice in the ChurchAs Always:Check out Caitlin and Rebekah's Book Shop! Here you can find every book mentioned in our episodes, as well as a few additional faves.Use this link to get a 25% discount on a PokPok subcription! And if you haven't listened yet, check out our interview with PokPok creators, Esther and Melissa.We would love to hear from you! Do you relate to any of the experience Rebekah and Tatum shared in this episode? Have you revised any scripts around what is holy or divine?🍎 Apple🟢 SpotifyFind Rebekah on Substack & Caitlin on Instagram ✨
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  • 🎙️ Not Being Afraid to Look at It All with Tyler Feder
    If you've listened to this podcast for three minutes, you know that we are big-time, long-time fans of author/illustrator Tyler Feder (Bodies Are Cool, Are You Mad At Me?, and Dancing At the Pity Party: A Dead Mom Graphic Memoir). Tyler has a unique ability of finding the simplest, sturdiest revision to break open the one-dimensional world in which we often live. Today, we talk with her about how she came to rewrite scripts around bodies and grief. (And! We get a sneak peek at a future script she might like to dismantle and rewrite.) We are still basking in the glow of this conversation✨Tune In to Hear Us Talk About:🫀 How Tyler ended up writing the picture book that all of us needed.💀 The weird similarities in the ways people respond to disability and death.🎭 How Tyler became the kind of person who can hold onto grief and laughter at the same time.😬 The weird things people said around Tyler after her mom died and a peek at alternate scripts.⏳ A cultural script Tyler would like to revise.🎀 The 3 questions Rebekah's kid really wanted to ask Tyler, and her answers.🕺 A dash of Myers Briggs/Enneagram chitter-chatter.Mentioned In Today's Episode:Tyler's books Bodies Are Cool, Are You Mad At Me?, and Dancing At the Pity Party: A Dead Mom Graphic MemoirTyler's addition to the Scratch That Spotify playlist of songs that have held us – "Kind of Girl" by MUNAAs Always:Check out Caitlin and Rebekah's Book Shop! Here you can find every book mentioned in our episodes, as well as a few additional faves.Use this link to get a 25% discount on a PokPok subcription! And if you haven't listened yet, check out our interview with PokPok creators, Esther and Melissa.We would love to hear from you! 🍎 Apple🟢 SpotifyFind Rebekah on Substack & Caitlin on Instagram ✨
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  • 🎙️ Returning to Our Bodies with Barry Lee
    Barry Lee's art is beautiful without being precious, whimsical but sturdy, absurd and deeply relatable, disrupts traditional beauty standards and is absolutely stunning. As a disabled and non-binary artist, they offer us a bright and playful world with a warmest, gentlest gut-punch. There was SO MUCH we wanted to talk with them about. Like when did Barry learn to separate from their body? How are they finding their way back? And what does art have to do with any of it? The conversation that unspooled spanned from early medical trauma to the curious things our grad school professors said that shaped our life arcs to an exploration of what we're moving toward today. They gave us so much to think about💛Tune In to Hear Us Talk About:🩺 How Barry learned early that their disabled body didn't belong to them.📓 The artifact from the past Barry's mom gave them that prompted a turn toward embodiment.😷 The near-death experience that taught Barry to trust their body.🗓️ Why Barry likes the word practice to describe learning to be in their body.💌 The entirely unique and expansive way that Barry defines accessibility.✨ Invitations from disability and gender to dismantle.🌱 Exploring what we are FOR (as opposed to simply against).📦 Thinking outside of the box versus rearranging what's inside the box.⚡️ Getting comfortable with being unpalatable.🧳 Removing the shame that so often rests on top of suffering.Mentioned In Today's Episode:Gentle Reminders Journal: A Deep, Loving Guide to Help You Show Up for Yourself & OthersBarry's Instagram, Substack Portal Hopping, and website!As Always:Check out Caitlin and Rebekah's Book Shop! Here you can find every book mentioned in our episodes, as well as a few additional faves.Use this link to get a 25% discount on a PokPok subcription! And if you haven't listened yet, check out our interview with PokPok creators, Esther and Melissa.We would love to hear from you! Do you share this history of disembodiment? How did/are you finding your way back?🍎 Apple🟢 SpotifyFind Rebekah on Substack & Caitlin on Instagram ✨
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  • ⚡️Pivoting, Adapting, and Ragingly Seeking Out Joy During Big Life Shifts.
    Have you gone through a big life change that has left you feeling disconnected from yourself? Maybe it's becoming a parent? Or a new illness/diagnosis? Maybe it's a new job or moving to a new city? It's so easy for us to lose ourselves when we confront these kinds of personal shifts, let alone all the great wide forces in the world. It's easy to get lost with new restrictions on time, easy to be flattened by survival mode, easy to go limp when we feel powerless. In this episode we ask – How can we get underneath what was serving us before to reimagine a new shape for now? What was fulfilling us before, and what accommodations do we need meet those needs in a new landscape?Tune In to Hear Up Talk About:🌶️ Caitlin's spicy hot-take soap box.🕯️ How Caitlin layered & modified their pre-parenting practices after Charlie arrived.🚚 How to decipher what to salvage and what to let go of.🌱 When it's not just your circumstances, but YOU are the one changing.⏰ How the restrictions of time and money complicate things.🌎 All the big-picture, cultural forces that keep us from creating.📝 Letting go of what any of this is supposed to look like, and writing scripts for ourselves that make us feel alive.Mentioned In Today's Episode:The New One by Mike Birbiglia and J. Hope SteinOur Scratch That episode "Getting Of the Conveyer Belt of Production with Maria Bowler"As Always:Check out Caitlin and Rebekah's Book Shop! Here you can find every book mentioned in our episodes, as well as a few additional faves.Use this link to get a 25% discount on a PokPok subcription! And if you haven't listened yet, check out our interview with PokPok creators, Esther and Melissa.We would love to hear from you! Have you gone through a big life change that has left you feeling disconnected from yourself? Like your lost or something is missing?🍎 Apple🟢 SpotifyFind Rebekah on Substack & Caitlin on Instagram ✨
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Scratch That is a weekly podcast with queer illustrator Caitlin Metz and disabled storyteller Rebekah Taussig, two friends trying to figure out how to be parents and people at the same time. Caitlin and Rebekah delve into heartfelt, honest conversations with caregivers who are going off script, starting from scratch, and building alternate paths. Join our community on Patreon!
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