The Laravel Podcast

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In this episode, Matt Stauffer sits down with Aaron Francis — just days before his first day — to explore his journey from programmer and entrepreneur to VP of Marketing and Community at Laravel.

They trace his winding path from big-four CPA to developer, PlanetScale, and two and a half years of independence, then unpack the hard decision to "go to the mothership." Aaron lays out his strategic vision: protect the artisan core while expanding to the larger circle of pragmatic builders, and make Laravel's engineering credibility legible to the outside world.

It's a candid look at how his diverse experiences shape his approach to community and growth — and why lifting Laravel's reputation raises the tide for the whole community.
 
Matt Stauffer on X - https://x.com/mattstauffer
Aaron Francis on X - https://x.com/aarondfrancis
Mostly Technical Podcast - https://mostlytechnical.com/
Laravel Twitter - https://twitter.com/laravel
Laravel Website - https://laravel.com/
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Suggestion Box - https://suggest.gg/laravelpodcast

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The Laravel Podcast is brought to you by Tighten, your friendly neighborhood Laravel experts. Check us out at tighten.com and also by other sponsors you will hear about later in the episode. 

In this episode, Matt Stauffer sits down with Taylor Otwell, creator and CEO of Laravel, just days before Laracon in Boston, and gets into why Laravel has become such a natural fit for building with AI coding agents.

They talk through Laravel Boost, the value of an opinionated, “batteries included” framework when agents are writing the code, and how “vibe-coding” platforms tend to hit a wall that Laravel doesn’t. Along the way, Taylor makes a striking claim: the big shift in programming has already happened. Most of us aren’t writing code by hand anymore, and the open question is just how much we review versus trust.

It’s also a candid conversation about craft, deleting experiments without guilt, and Taylor leaning back into being unapologetically himself.
Matt Stauffer on X - https://x.com/mattstauffer
Taylor on X - https://x.com/taylorotwell
Voxacon - https://voxacon.laravel.cloud/
Kayla Helmick on the Laravel Blog - https://laravel.com/cloud/customer-stories/how-a-non-technical-built-an-app-with-laravel-cloud-claude
Laravel Twitter - https://twitter.com/laravel
Laravel Website - https://laravel.com/
Laracon US 2026 - https://laracon.us/
Tighten Website - https://tighten.com/
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Laravel - Laracon US and Laravel Cloud

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The Laravel Podcast is brought to you by Tighten, your friendly neighborhood Laravel experts. Check us out at tighten.com and also by other sponsors you will hear about later in the episode. 

In this episode, Matt Stauffer sits down with Jeremy Butler, product design lead at Laravel, to trace his path from building an app to sell advertisements to shaping the look and feel of Cloud, Nightwatch, and Forge.

Jeremy shares how a copy of Laravel: Up & Running rescued a struggling NHS project, why he leans on systems thinking and design thinking over raw pixels, and how design finally became its own pillar at Laravel alongside engineering.

They also dig into his side projects — useClassy and DSLinter — plus design system governance, tokens, and why solid design fundamentals still matter in the age of AI.

Matt Stauffer on X - https://x.com/mattstauffer
Jeremy on X - https://x.com/jrmymbtlr
Jeremy on Bluesky - https://bsky.app/profile/jrmybtlr.com
Laravel Up and Running - https://laravelupandrunning.com/
Classy - https://useclassy.com/
UseMods - https://usemods.com/
DSLinter - https://dslinter.com./
Laws of UX  - http://lawsofux.com
Untools - https://untools.co/
Laravel Twitter - https://twitter.com/laravelphp
Laravel Website - https://laravel.com/
Laracon US 2026 - https://laracon.us/
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Laravel - Laracon US and Laravel Cloud

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The Laravel Podcast is brought to you by Tighten, your friendly neighborhood Laravel experts. Check us out at tighten.com and also by other sponsors you will hear about later in the episode. 

In this episode, Matt Stauffer sits down with Wendell Adriel, senior software engineer on the Laravel team, to trace his path from a small town in Brazil to working on open source full time.

They dig into Maestro, the new orchestration system that makes Laravel's React, Vue, and Livewire starter kits buildable from a single layered source of truth, plus the new Vite font plugin that pulls Google and Bunny fonts local automatically.

Wendell also shares a candid story about persistence — six-plus applications, a direct email to Taylor, and finally landing the job nine years in the making.
 
Matt Stauffer on X - https://x.com/mattstauffer
Wendell Adriel on X - https://x.com/wendell_adriel
Wendell on GitHub - https://github.com/WendellAdriel
Wendell’s Website - https://wendelladriel.com
Prince of Persia Rotoscoping Video - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AbbX_Mq-gdg
Laravel Twitter - https://twitter.com/laravelphp
Laravel Website - https://laravel.com/
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Suggestion Box - https://suggest.gg/laravelpodcast

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Honeybadger - https://www.honeybadger.io/for/laravel/
Laravel - Laracon US and Laravel Cloud
Laracon AU - https://laracon.au

The Laravel Podcast is brought to you by Tighten, your friendly neighborhood Laravel experts. Check us out at tighten.com and also by other sponsors you will hear about later in the episode. 

In this episode, Matt Stauffer talks with Abby Gilson — Laravel's recently promoted field marketing manager, better known in the community as "Gen Z Abby" — about the winding path that took her from studying for the LSAT to running events for one of the web's most passionate developer communities.

They get into what it's like to learn marketing and event management on the fly, why Laravel events deliberately don't feel like typical tech marketing, and how being a non-developer pushed her to actually start shipping apps on Laravel Cloud.

Abby also previews Laracon US in Boston — including dodgeball, LaraProm, and the SoWa Power Station venue — before sharing how she went full-time digital nomad and landed in Milan.
 
Matt Stauffer on X 
Abby’s Email - abby@laravel.com
Abby on X 
Laravel on X
Laravel Website 
Laracon US 2026 
Community Events 
Tighten Website 
Suggestion Box 

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