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Patrick Lencioni
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  • 99. The ID Pairing with Claire Laughlin
    How does being an Inventor-Discerner shape your leadership style when guiding a team?In episode 99 of the Working Genius Podcast, In this episode, Pat Lencioni and Cody Thompson welcome master facilitator Claire Laughlin to unpack the unique strengths and quirks of the Inventor-Discerner (ID) pairing. Together, they explore how people with this Working Genius pairing constantly generate, refine, and iterate ideas in real time. Claire Laughlin is a dynamic trainer and coach who helps teams communicate better and lead with purpose. As one of The Table Group’s master facilitators, she teaches the Working Genius model to leaders and organizations worldwide.Topics explored in this episode: (00:30) The Joy of Being an Inventor-Discerner* Claire shares how her brain instantly starts creating when pressure subsides.(05:00) The ID Loop in Action* How invention and discernment happen almost simultaneously.(09:00) How IDs Annoy and Delight Others* How an ID’s confidence and quick thinking can overwhelm teammates.(14:00) Feeding Creativity * How IDs can stay connected to wonder instead of jumping straight to ideas.* How curiosity and real-world problems can ignite your genius.(21:00) Living the Working Genius Every Day* How Claire uses Working Genius to solve team problems.Thanks to Claire Laughlin for being on the show! Learn more about Claire: https://www.clairelaughlin.com Connect with Claire on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/clairelaughlin/ This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (
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  • 98. Honoring Working Frustrations
    How can you genuinely honor someone's working frustrations, beyond just being aware of them?In episode 98 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody explore the idea of honoring working frustrations—the tasks that drain energy, even when you’re good at them. Using team member Tracy Noble as a case study, they discuss how competence without joy leads to burnout and how leaders can reorganize work to restore energy and dignity. Topics explored in this episode: (01:00) The Cost of Competence* The danger of confusing skill with joy and how it drains energy over time.(03:20) Understanding What Drains Us* How some people excel at things they dislike, leading to burnout.* Recognizing frustration is an act of respect, not weakness.(06:00) Team Reorganization * How team roles at The Table Group were restructured to align with genius types.(09:00) Redefining Productivity and Human Dignity* How long-term effectiveness outweighs short-term efficiency.* Honoring frustrations is essential to dignity and joy in work.(13:20) Applying Working Genius to Real Roles* Cody shares practical ways to match people’s genius with job requirements.* Pat reflects on his own burnout and how awareness of frustration fosters empathy.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/6NWAZzkzl4ljxX7S2xkHvu), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via [email protected]. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
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  • 97. The Impact of Your Environment
    How does your work or home environment shape the way you see your Working Genius?Episode 97 of the Working Genius Podcast explores how environment and culture can dramatically influence how people view their own talents. Patrick Lencioni, Cody Thompson, and Matt Lencioni share personal stories and client examples where individuals misunderstood their results because of the strong pull of their surroundings. They also discuss how, when you take the Working Genius assessment, it's essential to put aside what you think you should be doing and instead focus on what brings you joy and energy.Topics explored in this episode: (0:30) Environment and Perception* How our environment can distort our Working Genius assessment results.* Cody describes how people often answer based on workplace expectations instead of core joy.(5:42) Stories of Misalignment* Examples of people whose results were skewed by strong cultural or organizational environments.* A Marine veteran and a priest are highlighted as cases where structure shaped inaccurate results.(15:30) Wonder as the Overlooked Genius* How Matt misidentified his geniuses because of college leadership roles.* Why “wonder” can be undervalued in structured settings.(20:43) Liberation Through Clarity* The relief and freedom that come from discovering true geniuses.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via
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  • 96. The Key to Confidence
    How can understanding your strengths and weaknesses through the Working Genius model lead to true confidence?Confidence isn’t about pretending to be great at everything—it’s about knowing and accepting the truth about yourself. In episode 96 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody explain how the Working Genius framework provides a foundation for authentic confidence rooted in both strengths and weaknesses. They share practical insights on how humility, honesty, and self-awareness create confidence that impacts work, relationships, and life.Topics explored in this episode: 0:30 – Defining Confidence * Confidence is not arrogance, but alignment with truth about yourself.* Humility and confidence complement each other by grounding people in reality.3:40 – The Power of Admitting Weaknesses* Acknowledging what you’re not good at frees you to celebrate your real strengths.6:20 – Building Confidence Through Working Genius* The Working Genius framework provides language for identifying gifts and frustrations.10:55 – Humility, Gifting, and Evidence* Confidence is strengthened when you recognize gifts as given, not earned.15:30 – Confidence for the Next Generation* Helping young people discover their genius accelerates confidence and direction.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://open.spotify.com/show/3raC053GF5mtkq6Y1klpRU), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via
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  • What creative analogies can you use to help understand your joy and frustration at work?In episode 95 of the Working Genius Podcast, Patrick and Cody revisit one of their earliest metaphors for the Six Types of Working Genius model: the coffee cup analogy. They explore how it explains joy, competency, and frustration in work—and why new analogies like batteries, bikes, and even shoes can add nuance to the conversation. Along the way, they highlight how interest, energy, and preference intersect with genius.Topics explored in this episode: (3:42) Battery Analogies* How genius can feel like charging a phone.* Whether constant genius work is healthy or limiting.(7:30) Bike Riding Analogies* Cody introduces the uphill, flat, and downhill bike comparison.* Pat adds how electric bikes recharge, mirroring the energy of genius.(9:44) Analogies About Shoes and Household Chores * The difference between genius and personal likes/dislikes.(15:06) The Lunch Analogy * How interest or disinterest in particular subjects or meals shape our energy.This episode of The Working Genius Podcast with Patrick Lencioni is brought to you by The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com. We teach leaders how to make work more effective and less dysfunctional. We also help their employees be more fulfilled and less miserable. The Six Types of Working Genius model helps you discover your natural gifts and thrive in your work and life. When you’re able to better understand the types of work that bring you more energy and fulfillment and avoid work that leads to frustration and failure, you can be more self-aware, more productive, and more successful. The Six Types of Working Genius assessment is the fastest and simplest way to discover your natural gifts and thrive at work: https://workinggenius.me/about Subscribe to The Working Genius Podcast on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4iNz6Yn), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4iGGm8u), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/Working-Genius-YouTube). Follow Pat Lencioni on https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrick-lencioni-orghealth, http://www.youtube.com/@PatrickLencioniOfficial, and https://x.com/patricklencioni. Be sure to check out our other podcast, At The Table with Patrick Lencioni, on Apple Podcasts (https://apple.co/4hJKKSL), Spotify (https://spoti.fi/4l1aop0), and YouTube (https://bit.ly/At-The-Table-YouTube). Let us know your feedback via [email protected]. This episode was produced by Story On Media: https://www.storyon.co.
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What is your Working Genius? The Working Genius podcast is designed to help people identify their natural gifts and find joy and fulfillment in their work and life. Leadership and teamwork expert Patrick Lencioni and his team explore the Working Genius model and provide practical advice for applying this framework individually, at our jobs and in our homes. What type of work makes you thrive? Are you burning out because your job requires you to work in your areas of frustration? How can teams and families better tap into one another’s gifts? This podcast answers all these questions and more.
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