What's Wrath Got to Do With It? (Chris Pompu) -- EXPERT-TEAS
Season 2 Episode 8 of the Trauma-Informed Church Kid podcast
In this episode, I sit down for "tea" with Chris Pompu, a rural church pastor and host of The Sanctuary YouTube channel ( @PastorChris87 ). We take a close look at the "wrath of God" in the biblical text, trying to see how it functions and where it is present... as well as when it is not. We explore the impact of teachings such as penal substitutionary atonement, and examine how they affect our view of God. In the end, we try to reconstruct a more beautiful and faithful picture of the wrath of God. I hope you will join us on this journey to find resurrection on the other side of deconstruction!
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SHOW NOTES/RESOURCES
The Sanctuary: https://www.youtube.com/@pastorchris87
Leviticus is Fun: https://www.youtube.com/@Leviticus_is_fun
The Day the Revolution Began (NT Wright): https://a.co/d/dPIrFqC
Learning Laborers podcast -- Spencer's two-part episode on Isa 53: Part One (https://open.spotify.com/episode/5JEBfKKi6vCxupOYIDkBii?si=HbUwc5FkTXi910p22Hb8Kw), Part Two (https://open.spotify.com/episode/39Uk9oGyeUktmK6ivNUjyN?si=mZIj9V9oSF6qIbyt5ox4Ag)
A list of quotes from prominent theologians about PSA: https://catholicnick.blogspot.com/2009/04/was-jesus-damned-in-your-place.html
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Marked by the Blood
Season 2 Episode 7 of the Trauma-Informed Church Kid podcast.
Nine plagues have struck the gods of Egypt, providing both Pharaoh and the people chance after chance to repent. Now, the final plague is about to fall: the death of the firstborn. Not desiring the death of anyone, God makes a way for any who pledge allegiance to Him to be spared from the Destroyer: the angel of the bottomless pit. The blood of the Passover lamb will be the means by which the Destroyer will be kept at bay, the life of the blood marking and protecting all who live in that house. In order to make a separation between those who belong to God and those who belong to the gods, this is the cost it takes: the ransom for the lives of the firstborn.
Join us as we look at Exodus 11-13, examining the narrative of the plague of the firstborn and the Passover. We will look at what "firstborn" means, and why (or if) they are the target of the plague. We will explore the shadowy figure of the Destroyer, and consider who is responsible for the deaths of the firstborn. We will ponder what it means for God to "pass over" and "pass through", and what relationship this has to being "redeemed". Finally, we will sharply challenge if the Passover lamb dies as a substitute. In the end, we take a serious and careful look at what it means to be "marked by the blood of the lamb", and how we can be marked by the blood of the Lamb today.
I hope you will join me on this journey to find resurrection on the other side of deconstruction! Please like, subscribe, and/or leave a comment! Leave a question on Speakpipe as well: https://www.speakpipe.com/churchkidpod
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SHOW NOTES/REFERENCES
Bible Project series on redemption
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Let My People Go
Season 2 Episode 6 of the Trauma-Informed Church Kid podcast
Abraham's family continues to find themselves under the thumb -- and strengthened heart -- of Pharaoh, who thinks he is a god and the source of all order and life. First, Adonai shows him a wizard duel that should dispel this belief, but he persists. What follows is a decreation and deconstruction of all Egypt, from top to bottom. The gods of the nations are shown that order and life does not come from them, and it is made crystal clear to Pharaoh as well. What will it take for Pharaoh to listen? Will he ever acknowledge Adonai as the Most High God, or will he drag the people down with him (and the elohim) in his rebellion?
Join us as we look at Exodus 7-10, examining the narrative of the plagues as a judgment against the gods of Egypt. We will look at what "decreation" means, and why this is the best frame for the plages. We will explore who is the real target of the judgments which fall on Egypt, and the extent to which there are "innocent bystanders" to the plagues. We will ponder what it means to be "the people of God" -- is this about ethnicity, or faithfulness? And we will listen to the desperate pleading of Adonai to all of Egypt, whom He also loves deeply: repent, and you will be saved. In the end, we take a serious and careful look at the "Pharaoh"s in our lives, and how to face up to them and speak with the voice of God: "Let my people go!!"
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SHOW NOTES/REFERENCES
Exodus 7:14-8:32 | Ancient Faith Ministries
Battle Wizards: Mauling at the Euphrates | Ancient Faith Ministries
The plagues of Egypt – Walking With Giants
Jannes and Jambres - Wikipedia
Yamm - World History Encyclopedia
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What is Trauma? -- HOW OF HURT
Season 2 Episode 5 of the Trauma-Informed Church Kid podcast
This is our first How of Hurt episode of the season! In this episode, we seek to understand trauma better. We will define trauma, find out what separates it from unpleasant or difficult events, learn about the signs and symptoms of trauma, examine the feedback loops and neuroplasticity that either reinforce or repair trauma, and discover the multiple types of trauma -- including all kinds of church hurt.
I hope you will join me on this journey to find resurrection on the other side of deconstruction!
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SHOW NOTES/LINKS
988 Lifeline -- https://988lifeline.org/
Find a Therapist near you -- https://www.psychologytoday.com/us
Trauma and PTSD in the WHO World Mental Health Surveys - PMC
The Relationship Between PTSD and Suicide - PTSD: National Center for PTSD
About Adverse Childhood Experiences | Adverse Childhood Experiences (ACEs) | CDC
Trauma is Trauma: How a limited definition of trauma may be stifling your therapeutic growth — Psychotherapy Practice - Intuitive Healing | NYC
2025_Trauma_and_Addiction.pdf
Self-Harm and Trauma - PTSD: National Center for PTSD
The amygdala and trauma: understanding what your brain is doing leading to roots for your recovery.
Violence Leaves Its Mark on Our Genes For Generations, Study Finds : ScienceAlert
Intergenerational transmission of trauma effects: putative role of epigenetic mechanisms - PMC
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Strengthening through Suffering
Season 2 Episode 4 of the Trauma-Informed Church Kid podcast
The deliverer of Abraham's family returns to his people, but the job is not yet done. Pharaoh likes his power, he likes having his slaves, and he isn't about to let them leave. In fact, he makes it much worse for them: forcing them to work with fewer materials and then blaming them when they can't do what they used to. The appearance of Adonai in his throne room has strengthened his resolve: like clay in the sun, he hardens and cracks. Will Abraham's family do the same? Can they endure the suffering and come out on the other side?
Join us as we look at Exodus 4-6, examining the response of Pharaoh and the Hebrews to the appearance of God in their midst. We will look at what "hardening" means, and see if this is something God is to blame for. We will explore how abusive systems never welcome deliverance, and how that deliverance can often be slow and painful. We will ponder the features of abusive systems, and identify them in the narrative: collusion/complicity, victim-blaming, pointing fingers, and the like. We will listen to the complaints of the people to Moses, and Moses to God, that He simply isn't doing enough to make things right. In the end, we take a long and hard look at the role of suffering in the process of healing, and attempt to understand how to be both strengthened (in a good way) and softened by suffering.
I hope you will join me on this journey to find resurrection on the other side of deconstruction! Please like, subscribe, and/or leave a comment!
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SHOW NOTES/REFERENCES
https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/classical-quarterly/article/abs/divinity-of-the-pharaoh-in-greek-sources/10B843BD8305A47AFB789F70AF0E7D11
https://www.historyandmyths.com/2025/02/egyptian-creation-myths-legends-gods.html
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/get-out-of-your-mind/200901/a-human-life-is-not-a-problem-to-be-solved
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