27 episodes
- Dot Social’s Mike McCue talks to PJ Vogt, host of the Search Engine podcast. PJ is also a co-founder of the Forkiverse, a Mastodon instance launched with the Hard Fork team as an experiment in community and a concrete way to show how a decentralized social network can work.
The conversation is a timely reminder that the internet is still something we can — and should — build together.
Highlights include:
01:50 The Forkiverse origin story
06:37 “The best way to talk about this is to try it”
14:30 Reactions to The Forkiverse
19:52 Social media as IRL social gathering
22:13 RSS podcasting: strengths and how fediverse helps with hard parts
25:08 Thinking about further integrations
27:52 Great promises of the fediverse
30:04 Slowing down and trying new things
33:04 Next steps for The Forkiverse
36:20 PJ’s answer to the “media apocalypse”
39:22 How PJ got discovered
42:10 Search Engine’s amazing sound design
45:00 The quality of media now
46:46 Reasons for creators to join the fediverse
Mentioned in this episode:
The Forkiverse social network
“How do we survive the media apocalypse” podcast episodes
“The Chairs Are Where the People Go” book
🔎 You can find PJ @pj@theforkiverse.com
✚ Connect with host Mike McCue at @mike@flipboard.social and @mmccue.bsky.social.
🌊 Catch the wave! Surf the open social web and create your own custom feeds at surf.social, a new product from the people at Flipboard. https://about.surf.social/ - As Mastodon celebrates its 10-year anniversary in 2026, the open source platform’s new Executive Director, Felix Hlatky, is focused on what it’ll take to make the next 10 years even more impactful.
That vision includes an overhaul in version 5.0, a new feature called Collections, and continuing its critical role at the heart of the fediverse.
Highlights of the conversation include:
00:56 What Felix is most excited about right now
02:11 Felix’s Mastodon history
04:16 Mastodon’s growth and organizational change
08:10 Getting set up for success
10:27 Collections — a major new feature
15:18 Lesson to learn from Bluesky
17:05 Weaponization, privacy, nuances around collections
19:35 Making social media more manageable
21:00 Groups
23:44 Power of building at the protocol level
25:40 Collaborations across platforms and protocols
27:27 Bridging technologies and standards work
31:15 Mastodon’s backend infrastructure
33:56 Funding and the EU
37:27 Governments use of Mastodon
40:05 The Forkiverse
45:05 Podcasts in the fediverse
47:14 Custom feeds on Surf, ex dotsocial.surf.social
49:58 Vibrant creator communities on the social web
51:20 Mastodon 5.0, FASPS
53:59 Entering a new era
Mentioned in this episode:
dotsocial.surf.social
The Forkiverse
🔎 You can find Felix at @felix@mastodon.social
✚ Connect with host Mike McCue at @mike@flipboard.social and @mmccue.bsky.social.
🌊 Catch the wave! Surf the open social web and create your own custom feeds at surf.social, a new product from the people at Flipboard. https://about.surf.social/ - What do TikTok, Mark Cuban and Bluesky have in common? Skylight.
When the future of TikTok was thrown into question in January 19, 2025, Skylight CEO Tori White and her co-founder/CTO Reed Harmeyer saw a moment and seized on it.
But they took a new approach, one that puts creators in charge of their content, their audience relationships, and their reach. Giving creators all of the control and fun, and none of the uncertainty, fuels Tori’s mission.
Today, Skylight is a great example of the open social at work, bringing videos from across the AT protocol community into a single experience people can enjoy.
The conversation includes:
• Skylight’s origin story
• Making the case to creators to join the social web
• Benefits of ecosystem collaboration, like live-streaming and feeds
• Social web tipping point
• Monetization models
• What’s next for Skylight
• Financial sustainability, decentralizing resources
Mentioned in this episode:
Skylight Social
Repurpose.io
Creator Bill of Rights
🔎 You can find Tori at @buildwithtori https://www.buildwithtori.com/
✚ Connect with host Mike McCue at @mike@flipboard.social and @mmccue.bsky.social.
🌊 Catch the wave! Surf the open social web and create your own custom feeds at surf.social, a new product from the people at Flipboard. https://about.surf.social/ - AltStore co-founders Riley Testut and Shane Gill are the perfect example of necessity being the mother of invention. When Apple denied the launch of their retro video game app, Delta, in 2016, they realized that indie app developers needed another solution — one that could bring apps to communities without Apple dictating the rules and taking a cut.
Founded in 2019, AltStore is that solution. The creators of the first decentralized app store share their journey, including what an open app store means for developers and how they’re investing in the fediverse.
The conversation includes:
1:11 Genesis of AltStore
3:00 Getting Delta in Apple’s App Store
5:34 The Fortnite factor
8:10 The value of an alternative app store
12:04 The difference between putting an app in AltStore v App Store
14:41 Indie market for apps
18:03 Ecosystem safety
21:30 Is AI increasing the total number of apps out there?
22:45 Vibe coding and paths for app distribution
24:42 Fediverse and eureka moment
32:26 People-powered discovery — a broader movement
34:29 Building communities around apps
36:44 Patreon integration, supporting developers directly
38:38 Curating apps and source collections
40:07 Solutions for in-app payments
43:27 Pieces of the next generation ecosystem
45:56 Decentralizing app innovation
46:32 Relationship with Apple now
51:23 What’s on the horizon for AltStore
54:21 How to experience AltStore
Referenced:
Explore AltStore: https://explore.alt.store/
Riley + Shane’s Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/cw/rileyshane
🔎 You can find Riley and Shane at https://altstore.io/.
✚ Connect with host Mike McCue at @mike@flipboard.social and @mmccue.bsky.social.
🌊 Catch the wave! Surf the open social web and create your own custom feeds at surf.social, a new product from the people at Flipboard. https://about.surf.social/
Disclosure: Dot Social host Mike McCue serves on the board of AltStore. Rediscovering the Magic of the Blogosphere, with John O’Nolan and Matthias Pfefferle
27/06/2025 | 55 mins.Social networks were built on short posts designed for speed and scale. But what if the next era of the web was built for something deeper?
Two of the social web’s “longformers” are working on this. John O’Nolan, the founder and CEO of Ghost, and Matthias Pfefferle, the developer behind the ActivityPub plugin for WordPress, are at the forefront of integrating social features with blogs, newsletters, essays — anything that doesn’t fit in a box of 500 characters or less.
In this episode of Dot Social, the trio talks about rediscovering the magic of the blogosphere; why formatting, identity, and interoperability are tricky problems to solve; and where writing belongs in the next chapter of the internet.
Highlights include:
Importance to writers and bloggers
Models for discovery
Core principles around bringing long-form to the social web
Lessons from Web 2.0, email
Rough edges and need for collaboration
Mentioned or related to this episode:
Julian Lam of Node BB
“Digital Sovereignty Is the New Influencer Status, with Citation Needed's Molly White”
“Steps Forward in Long-form Text”
🔎 You can find John at https://john.onolan.org/ and Matthias at https://pfefferle.dev/
✚ You can connect with Mike McCue at @mmccue.bsky.social.
🌊 Catch the wave! Surf the social web and create your own custom feeds at surf.social, a new beta from the people at Flipboard. https://about.surf.social/
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