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Rita Gunther-McGrath
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  • Thought Sparks

    Leading with Humanity with Rita McGrath and Kevin Nolan

    11/08/2026 | 58 mins.
    In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, hosts Kevin Nolan, CEO of GE Appliances, who talks through Haier’s acquisition of GE Appliances, and his advice for leaders facing massive transformations.  
     
    0:00 - Intro: Can you choose between growth and profitability? 
    0:27 - Meet Kevin Nolan, CEO of GE Appliances 
    1:40 - GE's long history of wanting to divest the appliances division 
    2:47 - The Haier acquisition — and the surprise of who bought them 
    5:55 - First meetings with Haier: "salad management" and philosophy over business 
    8:37 - "We don't plan to learn. We plan to win." — The GE mindset 
    10:14 - Culture shock: Haier kept asking, "What do YOU want to do?" 
    16:55 - The concept of "leading goals" — goals you don't know how to achieve 
    19:25 - Kevin becomes CEO: setting the bold goal of #1 in 5 years (from #5) 
    25:12 - Introducing FirstBuild: GE's open, consumer-driven innovation engine 
    34:06 - The nugget ice story — and why engineers don't understand customer needs 
    39:37 - FirstBuild's secret sauce: it must be self-funding (zero-cost innovation) 
    44:40 - From #5 to #1 in 5 years — with no acquisitions and no new people 
    48:51 - CEO humility: going to the factory floor unannounced 
    59:15 - Final advice: rely on the people closest to the work 
     
     
    Listen to more Thought Sparks Podcast episodes on Apple Podcasts  and Spotify.  
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thought-sparks/id1546758719 
    https://open.spotify.com/show/0xmTsYXMgTeielwZ0dGTSU 
     
    Watch Thought Sparks episodes on YouTube.  
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcyXT8iJkTSciUMe0me3L7Q 
     
    Follow Rita on LinkedIn, Instagram, X and Blue Sky.  
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    https://bsky.app/profile/rgmcgrath.bsky.social 
     
    Connect with Rita on TikTok and Instagram. 
    https://www.tiktok.com/@rgmcgrath 
    https://www.instagram.com/ritamcgrath.hub/ 
     
    Sign up for her Thought Sparks Newsletter on Substack.   
    https://thoughtsparks.substack.com/ 
     
    Learn more about Rita, her books, and ideas at RitaMcGrath.com.
  • Thought Sparks

    Lessons from Three Decades at Columbia Business School

    04/08/2026 | 38 mins.
    In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, sits down with Bill Klepper, Academic Director in Executive Education at Columbia Business School, to celebrate Bill’s retirement and reflect on his expertise in executive learning, strategic leadership and corporate governance. Their conversation took place at Columbia Business School, following a session of Rita McGrath's Executive Education course Leading Strategic Growth and Change.  
     
    00:00 Introduction 
    01:03 Meet Bill Klepper 
    02:03 The Origin of The CEO's Boss 
    06:25 Why Board Governance Matters 
    06:58 The Lifeline Exercise 
    08:06 Bill's Lifeline: Early Values 
    12:29 Path to Public Office 
    15:06 The 9/11 Story 
    18:31 Learning Styles Framework 
    24:08 The Integrative Leadership Model 
    30:39 Legacy and Wisdom 
    32:38 Strategic Centering 
    33:15 Audience Q&A 
    38:18 Closing 
     
     
    Listen to more Thought Sparks Podcast episodes on Apple Podcasts  and Spotify.  
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thought-sparks/id1546758719 
    https://open.spotify.com/show/0xmTsYXMgTeielwZ0dGTSU 
     
    Watch Thought Sparks episodes on YouTube.  
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcyXT8iJkTSciUMe0me3L7Q 
     
    Follow Rita on LinkedIn, Instagram, X and Blue Sky.  
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritamcgrath/ 
    https://x.com/rgmcgrath 
    https://bsky.app/profile/rgmcgrath.bsky.social 
     
    Connect with Rita on TikTok and Instagram. 
    https://www.tiktok.com/@rgmcgrath 
    https://www.instagram.com/ritamcgrath.hub/ 
     
    Sign up for her Thought Sparks Newsletter on Substack.   
    https://thoughtsparks.substack.com/ 
     
    Learn more about Rita, her books, and ideas at RitaMcGrath.com.
  • Thought Sparks

    How Organizations Can Win with AI with Rita McGrath and Charlene Li

    28/07/2026 | 55 mins.
    In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, sits down with Charlene Li, author of author of Groundswell, Open Leadership, and The Disruption Mindset, and a new book, written with Katia Walsh: Winning with AI: The 90-Day Blueprint for Success. 
     
    0:00 - Introduction & Meet Charlene Li  
    1:35 - Charlene's Upbringing in Detroit  
    4:14 - Introducing Winning with AI  
    7:34 - Strategy First, Not "What Do We Do About AI"  
    8:56 - Three Ways AI Creates Value  
    12:43 - The AI Hesitancy Gap: FOMO vs. FOGI  
    13:40 - Why a 90-Day Blueprint  
    18:53 - The Grief and Rage Behind AI Disruption  
    24:52 - Why AI Pilots Fail  
    28:43 - Building an AI Investment Portfolio  
    31:46 - Trust, Honesty, and Fairness in Leadership  
    39:04 - How AI Gave Charlene Her Voice  
    41:24 - Speed as the New Competitive Moat  
    44:22 - Goldilocks Governance  
    49:01 - Lessons from Burning Man's Mudpocalypse  
    53:04 - Becoming Superhuman with AI 
     
     
    Listen to more Thought Sparks Podcast episodes on Apple Podcasts  and Spotify.  
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thought-sparks/id1546758719 
    https://open.spotify.com/show/0xmTsYXMgTeielwZ0dGTSU 
     
    Watch Thought Sparks episodes on YouTube.  
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcyXT8iJkTSciUMe0me3L7Q 
     
    Follow Rita on LinkedIn, Instagram, X and Blue Sky.  
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritamcgrath/ 
    https://x.com/rgmcgrath 
    https://bsky.app/profile/rgmcgrath.bsky.social 
     
    Connect with Rita on TikTok and Instagram. 
    https://www.tiktok.com/@rgmcgrath 
    https://www.instagram.com/ritamcgrath.hub/ 
     
    Sign up for her Thought Sparks Newsletter on Substack.   
    https://thoughtsparks.substack.com/ 
     
    Learn more about Rita, her books, and ideas at RitaMcGrath.com.
  • Thought Sparks

    Achieving Real Business Growth with Rita McGrath and Victor Grizzle

    21/07/2026 | 54 mins.
    In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, sits down with Victor Grizzle, CEO and Executive Chairman of Armstrong Industries, to speak candidly about the massive transformation he led at Armstrong, inspired by McGrath’s work on growth outliers.   
     
     
    0:00 Introduction 
    0:46 Victor Grizzle's Career Journey to Armstrong 
    5:31 The Growth Outliers Research 
    7:23 Separating the Flooring and Ceilings Businesses 
    10:42 Finding a Burning Platform for Growth 
    14:37 Divesting the International Business 
    17:03 Driving a Growth Mindset Shift 
    25:46 Building an Innovation Engine 
    30:46 Embracing Intelligent Failure 
    35:07 Balancing Stability with Entrepreneurial Acquisitions 
    42:41 Advice for the Next Generation 
    48:39 Culture, Teamwork, and Consistency 
    50:42 Looking Ahead: AI and the Future of Armstrong 
     
     
    Listen to more Thought Sparks Podcast episodes on Apple Podcasts  and Spotify.  
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thought-sparks/id1546758719 
    https://open.spotify.com/show/0xmTsYXMgTeielwZ0dGTSU 
     
    Watch Thought Sparks episodes on YouTube.  
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcyXT8iJkTSciUMe0me3L7Q 
     
    Follow Rita on LinkedIn, Instagram, X and Blue Sky.  
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritamcgrath/ 
    https://x.com/rgmcgrath 
    https://bsky.app/profile/rgmcgrath.bsky.social 
     
    Connect with Rita on TikTok and Instagram. 
    https://www.tiktok.com/@rgmcgrath 
    https://www.instagram.com/ritamcgrath.hub/ 
     
    Sign up for her Thought Sparks Newsletter on Substack.   
    https://thoughtsparks.substack.com/ 
     
    Learn more about Rita, her books, and ideas at RitaMcGrath.com.
  • Thought Sparks

    Understanding the New Longevity with Rita McGrath and Michael Clinton

    14/07/2026 | 1h 1 mins.
    In this week’s Thought Sparks Podcast episode, Rita McGrath, a Columbia University Business School Professor, C-Suite strategist, business founder and best-selling author, sits down with Michael Clinton, former president and publishing director and current special advisor to the CEO of Hearst Magazines, author of “Longevity Nation”, “ROAR Into The Second Half of Your Life.”, and expert on the business and personal effects of the New Longevity. 
    0:00 — Intro  
    0:19 — Meet Michael Clinton & Longevity Nation  
    1:29 — Michael's backstory in publishing at Hearst  
    2:43 — How Roar into the Second Half was born  
    3:49 — Retirement is a false construct  
    5:40 — Reimagineers: rewriting the second half of our lives 
    11:20 — Do companies take longevity seriously?  
    13:20 — Innovative work models (Flex 58, Singapore)  
    15:12 — Reconciling ageism vs. the 50+ economy  
    20:07 — Medicine, tech, and AI convergence  
    24:55 — The 60-year career  
    32:38 — Self-efficacy and the confidence edge  
    48:21 — Entrepreneurship in midlife  
    50:05 — Women leading the longevity movement  
    57:04 — The five core longevity hacks 
    1:00:07 – Conclusion and where to learn more 
     
     
     
    Listen to more Thought Sparks Podcast episodes on Apple Podcasts  and Spotify.  
    https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/thought-sparks/id1546758719 
    https://open.spotify.com/show/0xmTsYXMgTeielwZ0dGTSU 
     
    Watch Thought Sparks episodes on YouTube.  
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcyXT8iJkTSciUMe0me3L7Q 
     
    Follow Rita on LinkedIn, Instagram, X and Blue Sky.  
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritamcgrath/ 
    https://x.com/rgmcgrath 
    https://bsky.app/profile/rgmcgrath.bsky.social 
     
    Connect with Rita on TikTok and Instagram. 
    https://www.tiktok.com/@rgmcgrath 
    https://www.instagram.com/ritamcgrath.hub/ 
     
    Sign up for her Thought Sparks Newsletter on Substack.   
    https://thoughtsparks.substack.com/ 
     
    Learn more about Rita, her books and ideas at RitaMcGrath.com.
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About Thought Sparks
Thought Sparks are the brainchild of Rita McGrath. They are insightful actions, strategic ideas, actionable suggestions and innovative approaches that help organizations and leaders master the future with less fear and more confidence. New episodes of the Thought Sparks Podcast are released every other Tuesday at 11am Eastern.
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