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"No hope for AI - yet" - Jordi Piera Jimenez on interoperability and open platform
06/11/2026 | 33 mins.In 2017, the Catalan Health Service launched one of Europe’s most ambitious health digitalisation strategies. After two decades of building links between separate regional systems, Catalonia would move to a single common data layer, structured with openEHR, and place every application on top of it. The aim was data that is consistently structured, and therefore usable beyond the system that first recorded it. Jordi Piera Jiménez, now Director of the Digital Health Strategy Office at the Catalan Health Service, led the strategy. Nine years on, it is still being implemented, and he says he would write it exactly the same way today.
At the end of October, I moderated a fireside chat with Jordi at the Campus Clínic Innova Summit 2026 in Barcelona. We discussed the right approach to healthcare data in 2026, the state of interoperability in Europe and what AI changes. We also asked a more basic question: does the sector know what to do with its data at all, when so much of it is unreliable? According to HIMSS’s 2026 AI and digital transformation landscape report for North America, only 47% of leaders are confident their data is accurate, and only 21% say it is fully leveraged for clinical and operational decision-making.
HAT THE CONVERSATION COVERS
• Who does what: openEHR, SNOMED CT, LOINC and HL7 FHIR
• Why AI models don't transfer between hospitals: semantics, not only populations
• Catalonia's infrastructure-first digital health strategy and the open platform in healthcare
• The platform economy analogy: iOS and Android versus BlackBerry
• Patient identifiers, patient matching and the longitudinal health record
• EHR data quality: copy-paste clinical notes, 400–600 data silos, unused data
• "Right data, right time": why more clinical data is not the goal
• AI scribes, patient-generated data and parallel health records
• The 17-year adoption gap in healthcare and pressure from the consumer market
• Clinicians using LLMs as "Dr Google 2.0", answer consistency and guardrails for CIOs
• Digital health training in medical and nursing education
• Vibe-coded clinician apps, regulation and owning your digital infrastructure
• The WHO/ITU reference architecture for digital public infrastructure for health
• Vendor lock-in versus a common data layer: Norway, Sweden, Finland and Asklepios
CHAPTERS
03:00 Back from Sydney: standards bodies find common ground
04:40 "No hope for AI yet": openEHR, SNOMED, LOINC and FHIR explained
06:45 Infrastructure first: Catalonia's strategy and the COVID algorithm that couldn't travel
08:10 The open platform in healthcare: lessons from iOS, Android and BlackBerry
10:55 Would the strategy change today? Data silos and patient identifiers
12:05 EHR data quality: copy-paste notes, 400–600 silos, unused data
15:30 Do clinicians need all the data? Right data, right time
17:05 AI scribes, patient-generated data and the 17-year adoption gap
20:10 LLMs as "Dr Google 2.0": consistency, risk and guardrails
22:25 Training clinicians for digital health
24:35 Vibe-coded apps, vendor lock-in and owning your infrastructure
27:35 The WHO/ITU reference architecture for digital public infrastructure for health
28:40 The North Star: Nordic regions, Asklepios and the platform economy
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#openEHR #interoperability #HL7FHIR #SNOMEDCT #digitalhealth #healthdata #Catalonia #healthcareAI #vendorlockin #digitalpublicinfrastructure #FacesOfDigitalHealthMalta's primary care after the EPR: data governance, AI and the EHDS (Stefan Buttigieg)
30/10/2026 | 35 mins.Malta's health centres settled the digitisation question years ago. The harder work, Dr Stefan Buttigieg argues, starts now.
Malta's public primary care has run on an electronic patient record since its rollout began in late 2019. With the European Health Data Space now moving from regulation to implementation, the question in Maltese health centres is no longer whether to digitise but what a mature record should do next. Dr Stefan Buttigieg, who first joined Faces of Digital Health in 2019 to discuss Malta as a gateway to the European market, returns after moving from national eHealth work into Primary HealthCare. He sets out why data governance has to come before AI, why AI implementation depends on hardware and care pathways as much as software, and why he would rather build tools clinicians never need to be trained on.
Guest
Dr Stefan Buttigieg – Specialist in Public Health Medicine, Ministry for Health and Active Ageing, Malta (Primary HealthCare); creator of the EHDS Explorer
Host
Tjaša Zajc – Founder, Faces of Digital Health
What the conversation covers
• EHDS implementation in primary care: from national policy to the clinic
• Malta's electronic patient record for primary care, seven years on
• MyHealth@EU and cross-border patient summaries since 2019
• Setting up a national contact point for eHealth: the small-state advantage
• The EHDS Explorer: an independent, vibe-coded guide to the regulation and member-state implementation tracking
• Digital health authorities and health data access bodies ahead of March 2027
• Health data governance and data quality as the precondition for AI
• AI in breast screening, ophthalmology and diabetes care
• Why AI implementation depends on hardware, integration and the care pathway
• Malta's AI for All programme and Copilot across government
• AI literacy for clinicians, and the case for AI that needs no training
• Clinical documentation for care: Europe and the US compared
• The 2027 goal: restoring clinicians' joy in documentation
Chapters
03:00 Malta as a European test bed, revisited
03:36 From national EHDS policy to EHDS on the ground
05:49 Primary care seven years after the electronic patient record
08:57 MyHealth@EU and cross-border patient summaries
13:28 Building a national contact point: lessons from a small state
16:35 Vibe-coding the EHDS Explorer and tracking implementation
19:41 Primary care priorities: data governance before AI
22:47 AI already in use: Copilot and Malta's AI for All
26:22 Why AI implementation is a hardware and care-pathway problem
30:19 The 2027 goal: joy in clinical documentation
32:19 Documentation for care: Europe and the US compared
33:59 AI literacy for clinicians, or AI that needs no training
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#EHDS #EuropeanHealthDataSpace #PrimaryCare #ClinicalAI #DigitalHealth #Malta #FacesOfDigitalHealth- Her relative said it was nothing. Two weeks of symptom history in ChatGPT said get checked. She was diagnosed at stage one.
In early 2023, Alvina Nadeem was 36, a mother of two young boys, and tired in a way she put down to burnout or perimenopause. She was already a heavy ChatGPT user through her work in change management, so she tried something she had never done: she described her symptoms to it. When the model refused to answer first-person health questions, she reframed herself as a clinical case for a medical resident and asked it to explain its reasoning. Ovarian cancer appeared as one of four possibilities. What followed — a post-it note of symptoms to present together, a GP who ordered imaging, a stage one diagnosis — is the starting point for a wider conversation about how patients actually use AI: to navigate the health system, to filter misinformation, and to carry their own story between specialists who cannot see each other's notes.
This episode describes one patient's experience and is not medical advice. If you have persistent symptoms, speak to a clinician.
GUEST
Alvina Nadeem — Professional engineer (P.Eng.), change management advisor and leadership coach; Board member, Ovarian Cancer Canada; Co-director, Cancer and Work; Coalition Priorité Cancer au Québec
Host: Tjaša Zajc
THE AGENTIC PATIENT
A Faces of Digital Health series on how patients and caregivers actually use AI — which tools, which prompts, which guardrails — and what that does to the relationship with clinicians.
Series hub: https://www.facesofdigitalhealth.com/agentic-patient
WHAT THE CONVERSATION COVERS
• "No-lution": why dismissing patient AI use hides how people already use it
• Shadow AI in healthcare: patients were using ChatGPT long before health systems noticed
• Using ChatGPT for health questions in 2023, when the model refused first-person medical queries
• Role-play prompting: presenting yourself as a clinical case and asking the model to show its reasoning
• Prompting for possibilities rather than confirmation — and why that limits sycophancy
• Ovarian cancer symptoms: bloating, early satiety, fatigue, cramping and abnormal bleeding as a constellation
• Why ovarian cancer is diagnosed late, and why age 36 put her outside anyone's differential
• How to describe symptoms to your doctor so they lead to the right tests
• CA-125 testing and the routine pelvic pain workup
• Sharing health data with ChatGPT: privacy, identifiers and the risk-reward of a crisis
• AI as a health system navigation tool: which specialist, which questions, is this wait normal
• The worried well, wellness misinformation and AI as a filter
• Practical advice: approach the model as a tester, and end every session with questions for your doctor
• Emergency versus chronic illness: where general chatbots lose context
• Patient-built AI tools for specific conditions
• Continuity of care: the patient as the relay between family doctor and oncologist
CHAPTERS
03:00 The Agentic Patient: how patients use AI in their care
04:14 "No-lution" and the shadow AI already inside healthcare
07:38 ChatGPT in early 2023: a cautious, restricted tool
10:10 Learning to prompt: role, context and the role-play workaround
16:54 Challenging the model: sycophancy then and now
19:36 Presenting a symptom constellation to get the right tests
25:09 The post-it note, the pelvic exam and the imaging referral
27:49 CA-125 and the routine pelvic pain workup
29:00 What patients use AI for: health system navigation
33:31 The worried well, misinformation and AI as a filter
37:21 Practical advice: test the tool, end with questions for your doctor
39:45 Emergency versus chronic: where general chatbots fall short
46:28 AI as the keeper of a patient's story between specialists
MENTIONED
Ovarian Cancer Canada • Cancer and Work • Coalition Priorité Cancer au Québec • CA-125 (cancer antigen 125) test • ChatGPT
Discussion with Russ Read Barrow: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-agentic-patient-2-one-tool-one-job-cancer/id1194284040?i=1000764804039
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#TheAgenticPatient #OvarianCancer #PatientAI #ChatGPT #healthAI #patientnavigation #earlydiagnosis #digitalhealth #patientempowerment #cancercare How to get hospital AI from pilot to scale (Eyal ZImlichman, Sheba Medical Centre)
16/10/2026 | 37 mins.Three in ten AI pilots at Sheba Medical Center never scale. Eyal Zimlichman on why, and what Europe's regulation holds back.
Nine years after his first Faces of Digital Health interview, when ARC was still being built inside Sheba Medical Center, Eyal Zimlichman returns with the numbers. He explains how Sheba measures the return on AI (clinical outcomes, cost and clinician burnout), why its chief quality officer rather than its AI officer signs off every deployment, and why about 30% of pilots are discontinued. We discuss what ambient scribes change for patient safety, documentation and malpractice, why hospitals still treat start-ups as a nuisance, why no European hospital belongs to Mayo Clinic Platform's federated data network, and how ARC plans to grow tenfold in 2027.
GUEST
Prof. Eyal Zimlichman — Chief Transformation, Innovation and AI Officer, Sheba Medical Center, Israel; founder and director, ARC Innovation
Host: Tjaša Zajc
WHAT THE CONVERSATION COVERS
- What has changed at Sheba Medical Center and ARC since 2017
- How a hospital measures AI return on investment: outcomes, cost, access and burnout
- Aidoc and AI triage for intracranial haemorrhage: the Sheba mortality study
- AI governance in hospitals: why the chief quality officer approves AI deployments
- Time-limited AI approvals: 3–12 month reviews based on risk
- Ambient scribes: accuracy differences between vendors and medication-name errors
- Ambient documentation, billing and the case for fewer malpractice claims
- Why 30% of hospital AI pilots fail to scale, including an internally built discharge alert
- Open innovation: why healthcare systems distrust start-ups
- Procurement, tenders and the barriers to bringing in new technology
- Europe as a "regulation superpower": unclear rules, cautious lawyers and the Charité ARC centre
- Mayo Clinic Platform and federated health data sharing without European partners
- Hospitals as economic engines: ARC start-ups, jobs and KPIs
- China, AI regulation and the speed of adoption
- ARC Global in 2027: tenfold scale-up and AI-native hospitals by 2030
CHAPTERS
02:43 Nine years on: Sheba, ARC and AI since 2017
06:52 How to measure AI return on investment in a hospital
10:58 Patient safety and ambient scribes: who approves AI
15:51 Ambient documentation, billing and malpractice
18:06 The pilots that didn't scale, and why
21:47 Open innovation: why hospitals distrust start-ups
26:35 Europe as a "regulation superpower"
30:43 A hospital as an economic engine: start-ups and jobs
36:13 China, AI regulation and speed
39:27 ARC in 2027: tenfold growth and AI-native hospitals
MENTIONED
ARC Innovation at Sheba Medical Center • ARC Global • Charité BIH ARC Innovation Center (Berlin)
Aidoc • Mayo Clinic Platform • ARC Summit, Tel Aviv, 22 October 2026
Orion et al., International Journal of Emergency Medicine (2023) — AI triage for intracranial haemorrhage
Earlier FoDH episode: Eyal Zimlichman, 2017 [LINK]
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#healthcareAI #digitalhealth #hospitalinnovation #ambientAI #AIgovernance #patientsafety #ShebaMedicalCenter #healthtech #openinnovation #healthpolicy #AIregulation #FacesOfDigitalHealth- When prevention works, nothing happens. That's why it gets cut. Joanna Lane on financing prevention as long-term investment.
Health systems in Europe spend a small fraction of their budgets on prevention, and that fraction is renewed annually and cut first when treatment costs rise. Joanna Lane has spent decades working on health and regional development across Europe, and argues that prevention should be reclassified from expenditure to capital investment, financed the way we finance energy grids, transport and pensions. In this conversation she explains what the Horizon Europe project Invest4Health learned from eight regional testbeds, why Public Health Wales disinvested around £10m to reinvest it, how health systems' own procurement and hiring can improve the determinants of health, and what finance ministers need to hear before they will treat prevention as an investment. We also discuss wearables and the longevity trend, where personal responsibility ends and public policy begins, and a three-layer model for funding prevention at scale.
GUEST
Joanna Lane — Managing Director, Stichting Health ClusterNET; Chair, FH Europe Foundation; Invest4Health (Horizon Europe)
Host: Tjaša Zajc
WHAT THE CONVERSATION COVERS
- Why the benefits of prevention stay invisible in health budgets
- Why local prevention and health promotion budgets are the first to be cut
- Invest4Health: eight regional testbeds for financing health promotion and disease prevention
- Smart capacitating investment and the EU high-level task force on social infrastructure
- Why a single financing template didn't work across regions
- Financing toolkits and competence building for regional health authorities
- Reclassifying prevention as capital investment and soft infrastructure
- Public Health Wales: disinvesting from health promotion to reinvest around £10m
- Prevention spending during and after COVID, and the pull back to acute care
- Defence, energy and climate competing for health budgets
- The ripple effect of health spending: local procurement, inclusive employment and NEETs
- How to make the investment case for prevention to a finance minister
- Local Multiplier 3 (LM3) and the return on local procurement
- 20-minute neighbourhoods and multi-use community hubs for older people
- Remote monitoring for independent living: the SMILE project
- Wearables, longevity and the retention problem in consumer digital health
- Personal responsibility vs public policy: school food, screening and familial hypercholesterolaemia
- Three layers of prevention finance: protected budgets, social outcome funds and patient capital
- Metrics for treating prevention as investment in national statistics
CHAPTERS
2:00 The Finance Minister Anecdote
3:18 Welcome & 40 Years in Prevention
3:54 The Invisible Challenge of Prevention
6:12 The Invest for Health Project
10:47 Financing Toolkit & Training for Regions
12:02 Prevention as Capital Investment
13:03 Bold Examples: Disinvest to Reinvest
16:44 COVID's Regression in Prevention
18:04 Healthcare's Ripple Effect on Local Economies
20:50 Engaging Finance Ministries
23:25 Evidence for Return on Investment
25:07 Community Design for Prevention
27:34 Longevity & Digital Health Solutions
33:11 Personal Responsibility vs. Systemic Prevention
36:11 A Three-Layer Financing Model for Prevention
MENTIONED
Invest4Health — Horizon Europe project on financing health promotion and disease prevention
High-Level Task Force on Investing in Social Infrastructure in Europe (report, January 2018)
Syreon Research Institute, Budapest • Public Health Wales • Local Multiplier 3 (LM3)
SMILE project (Innlandet Hospital Trust, Norway) • FH Europe Foundation • EU Safe Hearts Plan
Earlier FoDH episodes: Herko Coomans on interoperability as an infrastructure funding problem [LINK] • Henrique Martins on twenty years of EU health data projects [LINK]
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#prevention #publichealth #healthfinancing #healthpromotion #diseaseprevention #Invest4Health #healthpolicy #healtheconomics #socialinfrastructure #healthinvestment #digitalhealth #FacesOfDigitalHealth
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