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What if the fitness metrics you’re obsessing over aren’t telling you what you think they are? HRV. VO2 max. Resting heart rate. Zone 2. Wearables have given us more data than ever… but do you know how to use it to inform your training?
In this episode of the Ready State Podcast, Kelly and Juliet Starrett sit down with renowned strength and conditioning coach Joel Jamieson to cut through the noise around cardiovascular fitness, recovery, and resilience. Drawing on more than 25 years of experience coaching UFC champions, Olympic athletes, special operators, and professional sports teams, Joel explains why a higher HRV isn’t always “better,” what Zone 2 training is really trying to accomplish, and why your aerobic engine matters even if endurance sports aren’t your thing.
They also explore how to balance low, moderate, and high-intensity training, practical ways to measure whether your conditioning is actually improving, and why stress outside the gym has to factor into how you train. The takeaway? Better fitness isn’t about chasing a perfect score – but about understanding what your body can handle, how well it recovers, and how to train accordingly.
What You'll Learn in This EpisodeWhy a higher HRV doesn’t always mean you’re better recovered
What Zone 2 training is actually trying to accomplish
Why cardiovascular fitness is important for improving resilience
How to balance low, moderate, & high-intensity conditioning
Why stress outside the gym should influence how you train
Key Highlights: (00:00) Intro: Joel Jamieson on HRV & Conditioning
(03:33) The HRV Problem for Midlife Athletes
(05:13) What Is HRV?
(09:41) The Evolution of HRV Tracking
(13:32) What's a Good HRV?
(16:18) Morning vs Overnight HRV
(20:49) Why Higher HRV Isn't Always Better
(24:00) HRV, Resting Heart Rate, & Heart Rate Recovery
(26:50) Chest Strap vs Wrist-Based HRV
(29:33) How to Improve Your HRV
(34:10) How Fast Cardiovascular Fitness Declines
(37:53) Training Intensity Zones Explained
(43:30) Low, Moderate, & High Intensity Training
(45:59) Why Low-Intensity Training Builds VO2 Max
(48:33) Is VO2 Max Testing Worth It?
(51:04) The Cooper's Test
(55:09) How Fast Can Conditioning Improve?
(59:55) Team Athletes & Recovery
(1:01:46) Life Stress, HRV, & Training
(1:04:00) Lifestyle Sets Your Gym Limits
(1:05:21) Infinite Shelf
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This one's a first: Juliet and I are recording from different states. I'm up in Evergreen, Colorado, fresh off the Farren Summit in Boulder, where Juliet and I ended up in the same room as Robb Wolf, John Welbourn, and Andy Stumpf. Felt like CrossFit 2.0.
The American Society of Hematology just raised the diagnostic floor for ferritin from 15 to 30 ng/mL, and if you've ever been told your iron levels are fine while running on empty, this is a massive deal. Juliet shares her 30-year story here, including what finally worked.
Two landmark CTE studies dropped the same week: one out of Australia showing 61% of examined rugby league brains had CTE, and one from the US putting it at 1 in 4 NFL players. We get into what that means for families and youth athletes thinking about contact sports.
Plus a real update on Outplay, our book on youth sports performance for parents, which we are nearly ready to turn in.
What You'll Learn in This EpisodeWhy the American Society of Hematology raised the ferritin diagnostic floor from 15 to 30 ng/mL, and what the thresholds are for different populations
How to tell if iron deficiency may be affecting you, low ferritin symptoms, and which tests to ask your doctor about (ferritin, TIBC, CBC)
Why standard iron treatments so often fail, and what finally worked for Juliet after three decades of trying
How CTE differs from a concussion, and what two new studies on rugby league and NFL brains actually found
How families and coaches should think about youth contact sports in light of the new CTE research
What the Outplay book covers and where it stands in the writing process
Key Highlights:(00:00) Intro: first time recording apart, Kelly in Colorado
(00:40) Farren Summit recap and the Boulder trip
(01:13) Kelly's CU Boulder days and the shared senior thesis story
(04:48) CrossFit reunion: Robb Wolf, John Welbourn, and Andy Stumpf
(06:59) Fall travel: YPO Vancouver and the Brett Bartholomew conference
(07:57) Eudemonia with Momentous and the Antarctica trip
(10:24) New ASH ferritin thresholds explained: from 15 to 30 ng/mL
(11:38) Low ferritin symptoms and why standard treatments kept failing: Juliet's 30-year story
(14:35) What finally worked: iron infusions and menopause
(17:26) Which tests to ask your doctor for
(18:24) Kelly's concussion history and CTE intro
(19:24) New CTE research: 61% of rugby brains and 1 in 4 NFL players
(20:02) CTE vs. concussion: what's the difference
(21:37) Youth contact sports and how families should think about risk
(24:27) Guardian caps and other interventions; Eric Freitag episode on concussions, (https://thereadystate.com/trs_podcast/eric-freitag-concussions/)
(26:27) Outplay book update and the Outplay Way card deck
(30:50) Skateboarding as free play, shoutout to Lisa's son Fox:(https://www.instagram.com/p/DdiCvqzp1HL/) From Combat Zones to the White House: The Physical Therapist Behind Two U.S. Presidents | Drew Contreras
17/09/2026 | 1h 14 mins.View This Week's Show Notes
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What does it take to keep someone performing when their job leaves almost no room for downtime? In this episode of the Ready State Podcast, Kelly and Juliet Starrett sit down with longtime friend Dr. Drew Contreras, a retired Army physical therapist who went from supporting soldiers in combat to becoming the first full-time physical therapist embedded in the White House Medical Unit.
Drew shares what he learned caring for everyone from White House staff to Presidents Barack Obama and Joe Biden – and why the fundamentals of human performance matter even more when time is your most valuable resource. From encouraging naps during relentless work schedules to introducing walking meetings at the White House, Drew explains how small changes can help people stay functional under extraordinary pressure.
The conversation also explores the changing role of physical therapy, why PTs should be doing more than treating injuries one patient at a time, and how technology such as digital health and AI could reshape the profession.
What You'll Learn in This EpisodeWhat working with two sitting U.S. presidents taught Drew about keeping people functional under extreme pressure
Why naps, walking meetings, and other simple interventions can make a major difference during sustained periods of high-stress work
How physical therapists became a “force multiplier” for keeping soldiers healthy and operational during deployment
Why Drew believes physical therapists should play a bigger role in performance and musculoskeletal primary care
Why embracing new technology such as digital health and AI will be essential for the future of physical therapy
Key Highlights: (00:00) Intro to Dr. Drew Contreras
(02:55) How a Combat PT Got Handpicked for the White House
(07:00) The Birthday Basketball Game That Started It All
(12:05) Building a Wellness Culture in the White House
(19:15) What Actually Moved the Needle on Health
(22:05) Naps, Walking Meetings, & Reframing Work
(26:30) Deploying as One of the First Combat PTs
(31:00) PT as Human Performance, Not Just Rehab
(33:20) Treating Obama vs. Biden – Different Ages, Different Needs
(38:50) Leading the APTA & Scaling Physical Therapy
(43:45) The Money Problem in Physical Therapy
(53:30) PT as Musculoskeletal Primary Care
(1:00:30) AI, Digital Health, & the Future of PT
(1:04:21) What the Presidency Really Does to a Person
(1:11:30) Infinite Shelf: Legacy by James Kerr
Huge thanks to our sponsors, LMNT, BEDGEAR, and Momentous.RECESS: Ted Lasso, Women's Sports, Private Equity in Youth Sports & Aesthetic Wellness
10/09/2026 | 31 mins.View This Week's Show Notes
Juliet and I have been saying yes to everything this fall. We're calling it the Fall Travel Junket, and it's stacked with events from Phoenix to Vail to Antarctica. Follow our Instagram or subscribe to The Ambush for details. And spoiler: you can join us in ANTARCTICA! For real!
We've been watching the new season of Ted Lasso, which is putting women's sports on mainstream television in a way that's hard to ignore. We get into what that means culturally, including who we'd want to see make a cameo.
Private equity is moving into youth sports with the "stay-to-play" model and it's terrible for players and parents. We dig into that, the "pay-to-play" model, what's happening at the policy level, and what parents can actually do.
We close with two Instagram trends that gave us pause: men in the longevity space calling facelifts "aesthetic wellness," and a dating site for people who didn't get the COVID vaccine.
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What You'll Learn in This EpisodeWhy Ted Lasso's new season is putting women's sports inequities on mainstream display
What the WNBA surge and Copa 71 reveal about the growing appetite for women's sports
How private equity operates in youth sports through the stay-to-play model
What New York Magazine and the Denver Post found when they investigated the pay-to-play childhood
What parents can actually do right now, from supporting Senator Murphy's bill to keeping rec leagues alive
Why calling facelifts "aesthetic wellness" is a branding problem worth naming
What "Unjected" is, and what it says about the stranger corners of wellness culture
Key Highlights:
(0:00) Welcome back + Goings on in Starrett Land: our empty nest and the Fall Travel Junket
(02:10) PT Biz Mastermind and Brett Bartholomew's Non-Superficial Conference
(02:46) The Assembly in Vail, Eudaimonia, and the Antarctica expedition
(04:46) Ted Lasso's new season and the women's sports moment
(06:15) WNBA, Copa 71, and cultural momentum toward the 2027 Women's World Cup
(09:54) Ted Lasso cameo wishlist: Emma Hayes and Megan Rapinoe
(12:45) Private equity in youth sports: NYMag and Denver Post investigations
(13:56) The stay-to-play model and Senator Murphy's bill
(17:24) Free play, skate culture, and why it matters
(20:15) What parents can do: rec leagues, Positive Coaching Alliance, taking action
(22:30) "Aesthetic wellness": men calling cosmetic procedures a health practice
(27:48) Unjected: the dating site for the unvaccinated
(29:52) OutroThe Science of Women’s Health: Strength, Creatine, Body Composition, & Aging | Dr. Abbie Smith-Ryan
03/09/2026 | 1h 21 mins.View This Week's Show Notes
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What if the biggest breakthrough in women’s health isn’t a brand-new protocol… but learning how to better apply the fundamentals to the person in front of you?
Kelly and Juliet Starrett sit down with Dr. Abbie Smith-Ryan, professor of exercise physiology and nutrition at UNC Chapel Hill, to explore what the latest research can teach us about training, body composition, creatine, and women’s health across the lifespan. Drawing from more than 15 years in the lab – and her experience as a collegiate runner who suffered 9 stress fractures – Abbie explains how our understanding of female physiology has evolved.
They unpack how women can use body composition data without becoming ruled by the numbers, why creatine may become even more valuable as we age, whether women really need female-specific strength programs, and how to approach HIIT and recovery during perimenopause and menopause.
The takeaway? Human bodies aren’t black and white. And now that we have more tools than ever, the focus should be on finding the ones that work best for you.
What You'll Learn in This EpisodeHow Abbie’s experience with 9 stress fractures shaped her approach to training, fueling, and women’s health
Why body composition data can be a valuable tool for tracking muscle, bone, fat, and long-term health
What the research says about creatine for women, from muscle and hydration to potential cognitive benefits
Why women don’t necessarily need “women-specific” strength training – and when female physiology should influence how you train
How to use high-intensity interval training, recovery, and scaling to get results without turning every workout into an all-out effort
Key Highlights: (00:00) Intro
(01:43) Meet Dr. Abbie Smith-Ryan
(04:00) Advocating for Women's Health Research
(06:37) Women's Health Research: What's Changed & What's Missing
(11:40) 9 Stress Fractures, Underfueling, & Low Energy Availability
(17:54) Body Composition & Injury Risk
(23:21) DEXA, Bod Pod, & Measuring Body Composition
(30:43) Body Composition for Midlife Women
(35:47) Juliet's Bone Density Loss During Menopause
(37:28) What the Research Says About Creatine for Women
(41:42) Creatine Hesitancy, Myths, & Safety
(45:41) Creatine Loading & the Menstrual Cycle
(48:23) Creatine Dosing: 5g vs 10g & Brain Benefits
(52:32) What's Changed in Athletic Performance
(54:43) Applying Elite Performance Science to Everyday Women
(55:27) Women-Specific Strength Training: Science vs Marketing
(1:00:32) Overcomplicating Exercise
(1:02:16) HIIT, Recovery, & the Menstrual Cycle
(1:04:50) HIIT vs Sprint Interval Training
(1:07:30) The 20-Minute HIIT Protocol: 1 Min On, 1 Min Off
(1:09:48) Abbie's Proof of Practice Podcast
(1:13:49) No Black & White Answers
(1:16:07) Have We Improved Sports Science?
(1:20:23) Infinite Shelf: '90s Rap Music
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