The Burnt Toast Podcast
Virginia Sole-Smith & Corinne Fay

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- You're listening to Burnt Toast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith and today my conversation is with Lindy West.
Lindy is the author of four books, The New York Times bestselling memoir, Shrill, as well as the essay collections, The Witches Are Coming and Shit, Actually, and her brand new memoir Adult Braces, out now. Lindy is the co-host of the comedy podcast, Text Me Back!!! and the author of the newsletter Butt News. Lindy was a writer and executive producer on Shrill, the Hulu comedy adapted from her memoir, and she co-wrote and produced the independent feature film, Thin Skin.
Today we are giving you the second half of our episode with Lindy, which originally ran as a paywalled episode. When Adult Braces came out earlier this year, it just about broke the Internet with discourse around Lindy’s marriage, body, and so much more.
We chatted about it all in this conversation—and today we are unlocking it so that everyone can listen!
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FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment.
This week Corinne and I are answering your fat fashion questions! How are we doing layers in perimenopause? Best ways to combat chafing and chub rub? What are we doing about pants? Don't miss out — join us here!
Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 30:25.
BUTTER & LINKS
Virginia's Butter: Don Chilio chili crisp
Lindy's Butter: quesadillas and Shirley Temples
One last thing! You will want to read Adult Braces after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "FATTALK" at checkout.
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/lindy-wests-life-164980900
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism! - You're listening to Burnt Toast! We are Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay and today we are discussing the rise of extreme thinness in Hollywood.
This is a subject many of you have asked about, and honestly, I think we've been resistant to talking about, but it is time. We're getting into:
⭐️ Ariana Grande, Olivia Wilde and Demi Moore
⭐️ How do we find compassion for these folks while still having a conversation about the larger, insidious system.
⭐️ What would we say to the younger generation?
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Housekeeping note: We've changed things up a bit to solve some behind-the-scenes tech issues, so here's how to get your Burnt Toast fix:
FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are discussing supplements, and Corinne is doing a taste test of Moon Juice. Don't miss out — join us here!
Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 34:03.
BUTTER & LINKS
Virginia's Butter: The Four Seasons on Netflix
Corinne's Butter: American cheese
Yes, We Need to Talk about Wicked Bodies
TikTok about extreme thinness discourse
Natalie Reilly via I Say This With Love: What Nobody is Telling You About Olivia Wilde's Face (Substack)
Caroline Calloway via Byline: The Drug That Made Me Want Less
Liz Plank via Airplane Mode: What If We're Not Actually Worried About Ariana Grande (Substack)
Taffy Brodesser-Akner via NYT: How Goop’s Haters Made Gwyneth Paltrow’s Company Worth $250 Million: Inside the growth of the most controversial brand in the wellness industry.
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/episode-256-164562981
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism! - You're listening to Burnt Toast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith, and today my conversation is with Diana Rice.
Diana is a registered dietitian, Certified Intuitive Eating Counselor and certified parent educator on a mission to help families enjoy a healthy relationship with food. She is the voice behind the online platform Anti-Diet Kids which helps parents bring the concepts of intuitive eating and rejecting diet-culture into raising their kids. She is the co-author of the book, Food Positivity: How to Ditch Diet Culture and Talk to Kids About Food. Diana is based in Oklahoma City, where she lives with her husband and two girls.
Diana joined me to chat about raising anti-diet kids, how to talk to kids about GLP-1 ads, plus a listener question from the Burnt Toast Parenting Chat.
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FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I will be talking about what to do when your kid is embarrassed by your body. Don't miss out — join us here!
Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 44:16.
BUTTER & LINKS
Virginia's Butter: The Workspace for Children
Diana's Butter: Alta wardrobe app
The Satter Division Of Responsibility In Feeding
NYT: Let Them Eat … Everything: In the age of Ozempic, the “fat activist” Virginia Sole-Smith is inspiring and infuriating her followers.
Facebook group: Raising Anti-Diet Kids
You'll want to read Food Positivity after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "FATTALK" at checkout.
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/goal-is-not-thin-163833597
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism! - You're listening to Burnt Toast! We are Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay, and today we're answering LISTENER QUESTIONS!
⭐️ Are AI headshots a diet?
⭐️ What are our go-to beach snacks and how are we protecting our folds and rolls as summer heats up and sweat is everywhere?
⭐️ Plus, I will talk about whether I think it's worth it to write a book. Much to discuss!
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Housekeeping note: We've changed things up a bit to solve some behind-the-scenes tech issues, so here's how to get your Burnt Toast fix:
FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Corinne and I are going to discuss our feelings about shorts. Why did we like them last year? Why do we hate them this year? Are we too old for shorts? We will be getting into this spicy, divisive topic. Don't miss out — join us here!
Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 35:20.
BUTTER & LINKS
Virginia's Butter: seeing the Indigo Girls live
Corinne's Butter: Burnt Toast listeners and morning glory muffins
Virginia and Corinne's photographer: Molly Haley
NPR: Chef Calls 'Salt, Fat, Acid, Heat' The 4 Elements Of Good Cooking
Down to Earth by Julia Turshen
Calendula Diaper Cream
The Workspace For Children
64-ounce Stanley
Lyz Lenz: Why I Can't Just Write Books for a Living
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/episode-254-qs-163703500
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism! - You're listening to Burnt Toast! I'm Virginia Sole-Smith. Today Corinne Fay is in conversation with Lasara Firefox Allen.
Lasara (they/them/Mx.) is a trans and genderqueer author, educator, menopause doula and coach, and the Founder and CEO of Genderqueer Futures, LLC. Lasara is the author of Genderqueer Menopause (North Atlantic Books, 2026) and Magickal Menopause (Llewellyn, forthcoming), and the creator of the Gender-Affirming Menopause Care Certification Course, which trains healthcare providers and allied professionals in inclusive, affirming, dysphoria-aware menopause care. Their work integrates clinical education, lived experience, somatic practice, and social justice frameworks to support gender-expansive people through hormonal transitions. Lasara speaks nationally at conferences including GLMA, UCSF Transgender Health Summit, and Creating Change, and is a leading voice in the emerging field of gender-affirming menopause care.
Lasara joined Corinne to chat about their new book Genderqueer Menopause: Navigating Menopause for Trans, Gender-Nonconforming, Genderfluid, and Other Queer-Bodied Folx, thinking about hormones outside of the binary, the difference between performing and living sexual desire, plus self-advocacy in medical settings and so much more.
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FREE LISTENERS can find this episode on Apple, Spotify, YouTube or the podcast player of your choice.
PAID SUBSCRIBERS can listen right here on Patreon, or add your member-only feed to the podcast player of your choice.
Paid subscribers also get transcripts, commenting privileges, and our bonus (audio only!) Indulgence Gospel segment. This week Kim, Corinne and I will be chatting a little bit more about midlife and perimenopause in our own lives. Don't miss out — join us here!
Indulgence Gospel segments get recorded too close to drop day to have transcripts — but you can find an AI-generated transcript if you’re following us on Apple or Spotify! If you're listening, Indulgence Gospel starts at the timestamp 38:21.
BUTTER & LINKS
Corinne's Butter: Hacks
Lasara's Butter: Romance audiobooks
QueerMenopause.com by Tania Glyde
Ari Cohen's Advanced Style
Planet Sex With Cara Delevingne
When Katie Met Cassidy
The Christmas Notch book series
Menopause Cabaret
You'll want to read Genderqueer Menopause after hearing this conversation. If you order it from my local independent bookstore, Split Rock Books, you can take 10% off if you have also ordered a copy of my book Fat Talk from them. Go to Split Rock Books and use the code "FATTALK" at checkout.
https://www.patreon.com/virginiasolesmith/posts/hormones-have-no-163064835
EPISODE CREDITS
Co-hosts: Virginia Sole-Smith and Corinne Fay.
Producer: Kim Baldwin.
Logo design: Deanna Lowe.
Theme Song: Farideh.
Video Editor: Elizabeth Ayiku
Audio Engineer: Tommy Harron
Follow us on social!
Virginia is on Instagram and Threads as @v_solesmith and on Bluesky at @virginiasolesmith.
Corinne is on Instagram at @selfiefay, on Bluesky at @corinnefay and on Patreon at Big Undies.
Support the Me Little Me Foundation, a virtual food pantry supporting multiply marginalized folks recovering from eating disorders.
Thanks for listening and supporting anti-diet, body liberation journalism!
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About The Burnt Toast Podcast
Burnt Toast is your body liberation community. We're working to dismantle diet culture and anti-fat bias, and we have a lot of strong opinions about comfy pants.
Co-hosted by Virginia Sole-Smith (NYT-bestselling author of FAT TALK) and Corinne Fay (author of the popular plus size fashion newsletter Big Undies).
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