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Johnny Gannon grew up in Maroubra in the Bra Boys era, when you did not talk about your problems and showing any weakness put you at the bottom of the pile. He has spent the last 25 years on the jiu-jitsu mats, took nearly 20 years to earn his black belt, and now runs eight-week health challenges with chapters right across Australia. At 54 he still trains most days, teaches his three kids, and is as curious as he has ever been. We were stoked to get him in.
In this episode, we discuss how training became his way of coping, why he reckons you have to look after number one before you can look after anyone else, and the mate who told him to respect himself. He explains his wheel of health, the eight-week challenge that has people quitting the drink for good, and learning to hold his breath for three and a half minutes on an empty lung by getting curious instead of scared. We also get into the Bra Boys years, the grit that came out of them, and what he wants for his own kids instead.
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Dr Geoff Wilson kite skied 5,306 kilometres across Antarctica on his own, the longest solo unsupported polar journey anyone has done. He holds a stack of other polar records and works as a vet in between them. Keegan spent two weeks with him on the Canning Stock Route, a recce for Geoff's next crossing, 1850 kilometres of Western Australian desert by wind power. Keegan recorded this one alone at sunrise, at the end of the trip. What stood out was not Geoff's fitness or his gear. It was how fast he came back to baseline when everything went wrong.

In this episode, we discuss why emotional regulation is the skill behind Geoff's world records, the campfire conversations about building resilience in adults and in kids, the suicide rate among vets and the resilience training Geoff runs for his staff, why comfort quietly costs us, Keegan getting rag dolled out of a kite buggy for an hour before it all finally clicked, the experienced four wheel drivers who said the crossing was not possible, working within your means instead of jumping to extremes, the 50 kilometre ultra that made Keegan hate running for 18 months, and why the more space you have above your head, the bigger the idea gets.

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Geoff Wilson is one of the most experienced adventurers in the world, with a particular affinity for wind powered travel. He's crossed Antarctica (and holds the world record for doing so), the Sahara Desert and the Simpson Desert, to name a few. His latest mission is to cross the Canning Stock Route, an 1,850km route regarded as the most remote 4WD track in the world, using wind power or human power alone. This episode was recorded on the reconnaissance mission to scout out the project, shot in the Tanami Desert just outside Billiluna, WA. Thanks Geoff for having us out there.
In this episode, we discuss how a wind powered crossing actually works, why the people who've walked this track by camel say the vegetation makes it impossible, kiting into Billiluna and the kids who'd never seen a kite before, why he changes kites instead of persisting with one that half works, the ice bath course and the young vet who wouldn't put her toe in, suicide in veterinary science, losing his dad and his best mate in the same twelve months, and why he thinks hard times make good people.

If you'd like to hear more adventures from Geoff, we sat down for a full length episode last year.
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Alex Boyce is the founder and owner of Sun Devil. He grew up in Arizona and moved to the Gold Coast in his twenties. A few years later he started Sun Devil started as a farmers market stall, soon enough there were queues of 70+ people to get their hands on a Sun Devil coffee, before the doors shut overnight.
In this episode, we discuss why he stayed silent when the rumours started, the decision to only ever do cold coffee, what it does to a business when one video changes the volume overnight, why Keegan thinks good marketing makes a bad product fail faster (Sun Devil has a good product), what money does to friendships, what happened during the months after the doors shut, and the stretch he describes as the first time he actually understood what depression was.
This episode includes discussion of depression and suicidal thoughts. If you need support, Lifeline is on 13 11 14.

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Clint Kimmins has chased 60 foot waves at Nazaré and finished Ironmans. The thing he's most proud of is surviving six months in a maximum security prison.
He went in at the peak of his surfing career with a beer belly and came out an athlete. This week we sat down with the big wave surfer and long course triathlete to talk about the surf club brawl that put him inside, the pile of letters that showed him he was actually loved, and the mindset that got him through the door on day one. We get into the harder stuff too. Losing his mum, the morning he woke to a voice memo from his dad, and how the two of them talk more now than they have in twenty years. And then there's Nazaré. One of the biggest days ever, borrowed gear, the wrong vest, over the falls near the cliff, held under longer than he's ever been. He calls it the best thing that's ever happened to him. Full episode out now.

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